5 Weeks On And Have Dead D**k
- 01-28-2013, 04:41 PM
- 01-28-2013, 04:48 PM
Being that I don't have experience with formeron, i don't have a good recommendation for you on that. If you were to run labs again, I'd go somewhere else that can get your results back quicker so you know what your progress or lack thereof is, so you know how to adjust. If I were in your shoes, I'd go with Letro until the es was crushed and then taper down my dosage to let some es come back and stick with the dosage that keeps it at a manageable level. That's just me though. Someone with more experience may have better input.
- 01-28-2013, 05:24 PM
Can you get exemstane? Letro crushes your estrogen too much IMO and one side effect of no estrogen is loss of libido which is the whole reason for this thread in the first place. I'd try and get a hold of exemstane man. It's the best at managing estrogen levels.
01-28-2013, 06:05 PM
I know what youre saying but at 229 dont I need something super strong? Remember the estrogen had a 5 week head start with me pinning about 1,000 mg per week of test and 600 mg of deca. I dropped Deca after that but was using Erase Pro (which in my opinion didnt do much, it may be good when you cycle right; but I didnt and now I have extremly elevated levels of Estrogen).
I dont know how well Fomeron is working because I havent had a blood test in 11 days. All I can say is that I feel better than I did 2 weeks ago but not 100%, maybe about 50% or less.
01-28-2013, 06:25 PM
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01-28-2013, 06:52 PM
Formestane is a great AI, however, you need to get checked to see where its at now.
Formestane is a Suicidal inhibitor and was a prescription. Personally I like Formestane, how ever it may not be enough for you at this time. A Letro regimen might be better, and taper down once under control and then go back to formestane to keep it under control. Mybe Adex every other day at .5 instead of Formestane.
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01-28-2013, 09:10 PM
-This thursday will be my last pin at 2ccs of Test Ethonate 250mg, after that, I will pin once a week for the next two weeks at 1cc.
-Friday get another blood test to see where I'm at.
-Continue with Fomeron until 1 week after my last pin.
-Continue 3 Prolactrone/day
-Today begin HCG at 10 IUs for the next 20 days
-Today begin 20mg of Aremadex per day until 1 week past my last pin
-Today begin 100mg of Clomid for 1 week, then 50mg for the next 2 weeks
-After I'm off PCT do DAA
-Continue Unleashed at 2 in the morning and 2 at night.
01-28-2013, 09:27 PM
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01-28-2013, 10:33 PM
Lowered estrogen -> body notices T:E ratio is out of whack -> creates more LH -> produces more test -> doesn't aromatize because the aromatase enzyme is inhibited.
Educate yourself before you spew nonsense.
Also, try to act like an adult. It's just the internet.
01-28-2013, 10:52 PM
01-28-2013, 10:52 PM
im just sick and tired of bro science people such as yourself commenting as if you actually ran tests on it. I know AIs boost test ignoramus and I am an adult, just a surly one.
01-28-2013, 11:01 PM
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01-28-2013, 11:21 PM
I'm more interested in the fact that you brought it up, considering no one ever said it was.
I pointed out what all AIs do, so if your blood test shows increases test then erase is doing exactly what its supposed to do, no?
Lol I wanna know what supplements you do use, because as far as I know very few have lab tests done on humans. Even less on athletic populations.
01-29-2013, 12:21 AM
Run armidex throughout your entire pct as well. 10ius of hcg?? This late in the cycle you could blast it 1000ius e3d or so until 5 days before pct. Throw DAA in your pct at 3g daily.
01-29-2013, 12:32 AM
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01-29-2013, 07:42 AM
Joe I have a lot of experience with letro. Ie my preferred ai. Imo Hammer letro for 15 days at 2.5mg then taper down to EOD at 2.5mg for 2 weeks, then half a tab around 1.3-1.2mg and settle at .62mg everyday. Aka a fourth a day. If you like you can easy off it with a suicide Ai.
Note if you use letro it will also eliminate your progesterone problem so you don't have to take prolactrone or any other product. You'll know your estrogen levels out when you get really hard woods in the morning to the point you can't use the bathroom for Atleast 5 min until the wood starts to fade, that's when you'll want to start to tapper down.
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01-29-2013, 05:25 PM
Quick clarification. With aromasin, I understand it stops new aromatization. Does aromasin actually do anything to bring the estro count down? I only ask since so many people say keep it on hand in case of high estro symptoms. But if you wait til your levels are high, then take aromasin, aren't you just waiting for your body to get back to homeostasis on its own?
01-29-2013, 06:12 PM
01-30-2013, 02:24 PM
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01-30-2013, 10:47 PM
Good deal. Glad someone helped you out. Hopefully it works out well for you. I'm sure you'll keep us informed.
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