It's here....ANDROENHANCE GEL

[HereToStudy]

ENHANCE YOUR MUSCLE GAINING POTENTIAL WITH ANDROENHANCE GEL​

'Find out how to magnify your muscle gains with a powerful new Andro Gel'


That's right, a powerful new andro gel will increase your gaining potential when stacked with an oral AndroSeries product. (16)


Since the release of the AndroSeries v3 products, feedback has been rolling in. Some positive, and of course some negative. The most common negative feedback has been with our powerhouse products - AndroMass & AndroBulk. The general consensus was simple -- people wanted BIGGER GAINS.




Why Aren't Some People Gaining The 10-14 lbs Like Advertised?


I wish I had a simple answer for this, but there are far too many variables that could be the determining factor for such a question.


- Genetic predisposition to muscle accrual


- Insufficient nutrition


- Insufficient resistance training for muscle hypertrophy


- Vital mineral deficiencies


- Prescription drugs such as Adderall causing anorectic effects and catabolic conditions


- Past heavy use of injectable steroids or highly toxic methylated steroids


- And the list goes...


Now what if you do not meet the criteria above? What if you're doing all you can to gain the utmost muscle mass from an AndroSeries product -- but want more gains?
Luckily, when our customers voice their opinions and request specific products, we don't turn our heads and cover our ears - we listen and react




We Are The Leaders In Oral & Topical Androgen Products


I know, you're probably thinking "yea, you were the leaders in topical carriers for hormone delivery, but that is in the past"


Not so fast -- we knew to evolve we needed something above and beyond topical based hormones. We needed products with an even more efficient delivery system -- hence creating the AndroSeries.
However, we know there still exists a special place for topical androgen applications --And that is to ENHANCE oral androgens and MAXIMIZE muscle gains without swallowing a truck-load of softgels.

Imagine -- being able to infuse your blood supply with highly absorbed oral androgens, while also magnifying their effects by saturating your skin with even more androgens, inducing an 'anabolic orgy' for muscle growth.(21)


I can now say -- you asked for it and we brought it to you .... (continue reading for the good stuff)

Introducing AndroEnhance


Introducing our new topical Super androgen formula that is specifically designed to further enhance your AndroSeries gains. This special formula is the absolute perfect ratio of Super 11-DHEA & Super 4-DHEA that is proven to cause the strongest anabolic growth response.
We made sure to formulate the 'magic ratio" of a 3:1 blend of each hormone to induce the most dramatic muscle growth response. More than either hormone is capable of producing alone.


Not to mention -- the 'magic ratio' also balances your neurological chemistry to make you feel like a million bucks. No lethargy, anxiousness or weird sexual side-effects to worry about, just a dominant work ethic in the gym intensifying the effects of your AndroSeries products.



Finally...A Side-Effect Free Testosterone


There are a few things you need to know about the novel androgen Super 11-DHEA -


Super 11-DHEA has been portrayed as a "cutting agent" or "cortisol reducing compound," which it certainly is - but do not underplay its anabolic potency. You see, Super 11-DHEA is as anabolic as testosterone but less likely to cause prostate growth, acne, hair loss and gyno since it has lower androgenic action, and no estrogenic conversion. (14,15)


Basically "Super-11-DHEA” is one amazing little androgen. Who doesn’t want a hormone that is capable of building clean, lean muscle while also keeping the stomach area ‘tight?’ (9-15)


I know what you're thinking -- " Why can't I just use AndroEnhance by itself and grow muscle like nobody’s business?"


The answer is simple -- an oral AndroSeries product is always the 'bread & butter' of any cycle because they are extremely concentrated and highly absorbed. The next step to augment muscular gains is to introduce a product like AndroEnhance.




Think of the scenario as a 2-step process --


Step 1: Pick the desired AndroSeries product of choice using a dosing scheme of 4-8 softgels per day

Step 2: Add AndroEnhance to the cycle to increase your muscle gaining potential with 2-5 pumps per day

The Coolest Topical Carrier Available
That's right, we improved upon our original topical carrier big time! This gel is clean, clear, thin, smooth, and virtually undetectable. When you apply AndroEnhance it dries within minutes. AndroEnhance leaves no powdery or oily residue, which in the past has been a major turn off to customers.


In fact, your skin stays so fresh and so clean that you can still apply Sun-Block or any other cosmetic creams of your choice. What's even cooler, is that sunlight enhances the biological response of the carrier. So applying AndroEnhance before hitting the beach can increase the anabolic effects.


A note regarding optimal absorption: Always ensure your skin is free of dead cells by proper hygiene -- using a loofah scrub brush to thoroughly wash the body is an effective way to cleanse the skin of dead cells. Shaving the areas of application would be advantageous in increasing the absorption of Sustain Alpha Topical.


As for dosing -- this unique topical carrier only needs to be dosed once-a-day. The gel penetrates the first layer of skin rapidly, then slowly deposits into the deeper layers of the skin yielding a 24hr delivery just like our oral AndroSeries products. This eliminates the hassle of multi-dosing procedures which are unfavorable for active people on the go.

(When applying AndroEnhance, make sure to prioritize the muscles with the highest skin-converting-enzymes -- shoulders, traps, neck and arms)



"Get Your Grow On"


If you were one of those people who did not gain as much as you liked from an AndroSeriescycle and would like to really see what this stuff if about -- get your hands on some AndroEnhance and embrace the ultimate anabolic experience.


If you were a person who had awesome gains from an AndroSeries product, but are interested in even more gains -- throw some AndroEnhance into your next AndroSeries cycle and keep growing.


Like always, we aim to please and have answered your demands for an awesome topical androgen product. To all of our hard working customers, we truly appreciate your feedback and respect every opinion. Because without you -- there would be no us.



For more information on stacking AndroEnhance with other Androseries products -- CLICK HERE




-Matt Porter
Marketing Director/ Nutrition & Hormone Specialist


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[howwedo107]

Hmm interesting

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

took you long enough to get this post up, been out for a few days....Matt would have had this up like a minute after the product posted

 

[howwedo107]

took you long enough to get this post up, been out for a few days....Matt would have had this up like a minute after the product posted

No free gel with comments like that mister!! Lol

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

No free gel with comments like that mister!! Lol

I got my mafckin 25% discount code though, unless he changes it up to fuq me over!! LMFAO

 

[howwedo107]

I got my mafckin 25% discount code though, unless he changes it up to fuq me over!! LMFAO

Lolol

 

[broda]

I'll log it

 

[MattPorter]

Sorry guys --- we had to post up the write-up FIRST on Pp home forum to see if all links checked out smoothly and everything was good to go before we got the green light to spread to other forums...

This stuff is a bad ass CLEAR fast drying gel that is Super-11! + some 4DHEA .....anabolic and leaning agent....cant go wrong here...stack with OTC hormones, underground labs aas, TRT you name it

-Matt

 

[Krampus]

I would love to try andro series but I am unwilling to sell the kidney required to afford it. Jack and Lefty are safe one more day (yes I named my kidneys).

 

[retroscapers]

The pricing doe. What is it

 

[machorox123]

Sorry guys --- we had to post up the write-up FIRST on Pp home forum to see if all links checked out smoothly and everything was good to go before we got the green light to spread to other forums...

This stuff is a bad ass CLEAR fast drying gel that is Super-11! + some 4DHEA .....anabolic and leaning agent....cant go wrong here...stack with OTC hormones, underground labs aas, TRT you name it

-Matt

Careful here Matt. Yu could get another jerk off saying that you told him to stack this with UGL var and got hepatitis. It would be all yur faultttttt!!!

 

[MattPorter]

Careful here Matt. Yu could get another jerk off saying that you told him to stack this with UGL var and got hepatitis. It would be all yur faultttttt!!!

That is soooo true

-Matt

 

[oufinny]

Why the 11-oxo ? I would have though you would have added the ingredient(s) from Andrhard or is this meant more as a cutter?

 

[carpee]

would there be any benefit running it as a standalone?

 

[jamesm11]

Careful here Matt. Yu could get another jerk off saying that you told him to stack this with UGL var and got hepatitis. It would be all yur faultttttt!!!

I already miss that thread

 

[MattPorter]

Why the 11-oxo ? I would have though you would have added the ingredient(s) from Andrhard or is this meant more as a cutter?

11-ketotest has a great propensity to build muscle MORE than Androhard (dht based androegns) -- and yes it will have that other effect on lowering cortisol conversion. Super-11 combined with some 4DHEA made perfect since for clean, lean muscle growth.

-Matt

 

[MattPorter]

would there be any benefit running it as a standalone?

I don;t doubt that running it alone would be nice -- but I would always recommend it ina stack of other hormones.....AndroSeries, 17aa orals, injects, etc.....

Could work great to also keep you leaner while running typical estrogenic based hormones -- m 1,4add, dianabol, test, gonadiene etc...

-Matt

 

[ryansm]

would there be any benefit running it as a standalone?

I wouldn't mind seeing a high dose of say 6+ pumps daily but it would be best stacked as Matt mentioned

 

[HereToStudy]

Careful here Matt. Yu could get another jerk off saying that you told him to stack this with UGL var and got hepatitis. It would be all yur faultttttt!!!

Reps earned.

 

[Gym4Life]

How long will one bottle of androenhance last ?? Wanna use it for 8 weeks with andromass would I need two bottles ??

Also one more question I plan to do androhard and androlean v3 in the future is it worth addin androenhance to them ??

Or is it best for just bulking cycles. Thanks

 

[HereToStudy]

How long will one bottle of androenhance last ?? Wanna use it for 8 weeks with andromass would I need two bottles ??

Also one more question I plan to do androhard and androlean v3 in the future is it worth addin androenhance to them ??

Or is it best for just bulking cycles. Thanks

Each tube lasts ~32 days, so yes, you would need two bottles for 8 weeks.

I would definitely think it is worth adding the AE, especially if you are looking to recomp, as it will help in the leaning, but also puttingon some size.

 

[ryansm]

How long will one bottle of androenhance last ?? Wanna use it for 8 weeks with andromass would I need two bottles ??

Also one more question I plan to do androhard and androlean v3 in the future is it worth addin androenhance to them ??

Or is it best for just bulking cycles. Thanks

AE really should be added to all cycles imo given its nature, if money is an issue John and I have coupons and if you stack it in the latter half of the 8 weeks I think most will be happy with the results.

 

[Axillist]

AE really should be added to all cycles imo given its nature, if money is an issue John and I have coupons and if you stack it in the latter half of the 8 weeks I think most will be happy with the results.

I agree! Seems like it will stack with every cycle! SD cycles would no doubt get great benefit from this!

 

[HereToStudy]

I agree! Seems like it will stack with every cycle! SD cycles would no doubt get great benefit from this!

Yeah, it should help in the lethargy department.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

So with an ABv3 only cycle, what type of dosing protocol would be suggested for the AE and ABv3? I don't really see that particular combo on the site....I believe I'll just run 6 a day, but just curious....

 

[Gym4Life]

AE really should be added to all cycles imo given its nature, if money is an issue John and I have coupons and if you stack it in the latter half of the 8 weeks I think most will be happy with the results.

Wow I would need 4 bottles for both my cycle can't afford that the androseries products has taken up my re mortgage already ... Would love the coupon but pp don't ship to the uk so it's no used to me I would of loved to try these gel an stack ..

But the cost is to much again sigh

 

[Axillist]

Any chance for a promo price for this? I would love to add it into my next cycle!

 

[HereToStudy]

So with an ABv3 only cycle, what type of dosing protocol would be suggested for the AE and ABv3? I don't really see that particular combo on the site....I believe I'll just run 6 a day, but just curious....

I would still run 6.

Any chance for a promo price for this? I would love to add it into my next cycle!

Check PM./

 

[woodbear]

pct for this? Looks interrresting..

 

[oufinny]

Wow I would need 4 bottles for both my cycle can't afford that the androseries products has taken up my re mortgage already ... Would love the coupon but pp don't ship to the uk so it's no used to me I would of loved to try these gel an stack ..

But the cost is to much again sigh

I have never understood the pricing of these products, the development costs are long since absorbed. It is nice to see dermacrine with a new carrier but the ingredients in this are not special nor did they need to be "developed" 4-AD and 11-oxo have been around a LONG TIME. I am sure they will be a hit for PP but many will be turned away at the same time due to the price.

 

[geezer7178]

Two questions: The area suggested for application I have Tats, will the AE fade my tats or discolor them?? Also I'm gonna be running a AL+AD cycle, so can I get one of those coupon codes, i''ll need two bottles. Thanks

 

[HereToStudy]

I have never understood the pricing of these products, the development costs are long since absorbed. It is nice to see dermacrine with a new carrier but the ingredients in this are not special nor did they need to be "developed" 4-AD and 11-oxo have been around a LONG TIME. I am sure they will be a hit for PP but many will be turned away at the same time due to the price.

Please point me in the direction of a bulk supplier offering esterfied versions of DHEA.

 

[HereToStudy]

Two questions: The area suggested for application I have Tats, will the AE fade my tats or discolor them?? Also I'm gonna be running a AL+AD cycle, so can I get one of those coupon codes, i''ll need two bottles. Thanks

We have had no reports of color fading with any topicals.

 

[oufinny]

Please point me in the direction of a bulk supplier offering esterfied versions of DHEA.

HTS I am simply stating what everyone I have talked to and we talk about on a private forum. Other companies sell esterfied DHEA in the same dose for $60, I know we sell it at a competing site to NP and people love it. I am all about you guys make money and innovative products there just needs to be a sliding scale once things are paid off that is all. I buy products for my job, I fully understand the dynamics of bringing a product to market and the costs associated with it.

 

[ryansm]

HTS I am simply stating what everyone I have talked to and we talk about on a private forum. Other companies sell esterfied DHEA in the same dose for $60, I know we sell it at a competing site to NP and people love it. I am all about you guys make money and innovative products there just needs to be a sliding scale once things are paid off that is all. I buy products for my job, I fully understand the dynamics of bringing a product to market and the costs associated with it.

Really? Which products, I haven't seen anyone selling it at the same dose? We are still dropping large amounts of cash to have them synthesized and we test them several times which costs a lot (most companies do not, and given this fact they are not getting what they think they are) 11-DHEA/oxo/keto has just recently skyrocketed in fact we owe PA a debt of gratitude for even getting any in as he was having issues as well.

 

[HereToStudy]

HTS I am simply stating what everyone I have talked to and we talk about on a private forum. Other companies sell esterfied DHEA in the same dose for $60, I know we sell it at a competing site to NP and people love it. I am all about you guys make money and innovative products there just needs to be a sliding scale once things are paid off that is all. I buy products for my job, I fully understand the dynamics of bringing a product to market and the costs associated with it.

Which company is selling esterfied DHEA products at a lower cost/mg ratio? I have yet to see it happen. AMS's products do not, The gorilla company's products do not.

 

[tilldeath]

and it's a battle! Who shall reign supreme?

 

[bluerocket]

How long will one bottle of androenhance last ?? Wanna use it for 8 weeks with andromass would I need two bottles ??

Also one more question I plan to do androhard and androlean v3 in the future is it worth addin androenhance to them ??

Or is it best for just bulking cycles. Thanks

I'm running this exact stack.... Started the stack last Monday the 30th with the AH/AL and just got the AndroEnhance and added that in on Saturday the 4th ..... I'm logging it and will be doing an update tonight or tomorrow... its in the PP section

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/primordial-performance/208132-starting-log-androhard.html

 

[KenTheEagle]

Can i include androenhance into my super cycle coctail? wich is based on test e, and 3 more powerful compoundsl? ... what would be the benefits? (im asking because it seems androenhance use is to sugarcoat a cycle, rather than considering it like a compound that can be used solo or anabolic by itself), in fact i was going to include dermacrine the first weeks of my cycle, but now with androenhance id probably give it a try!... i love primordial topicals

 

[HereToStudy]

and it's a battle! Who shall reign supreme?

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Haha, no battle. I just have yet to see anyone beat the cost. The cost to manufacture is not cheap.

Can i include androenhance into my super cycle coctail? wich is based on test e, and 3 more powerful compoundsl? ... what would be the benefits? (im asking because it seems androenhance use is to sugarcoat a cycle, rather than considering it like a compound that can be used solo or anabolic by itself), in fact i was going to include dermacrine the first weeks of my cycle, but now with androenhance id probably give it a try!... i love primordial topicals

You can add enhance, but wasn't your stack already quite heavy? Probabyl don't need to add more.

 

[MattPorter]

Can i include androenhance into my super cycle coctail? wich is based on test e, and 3 more powerful compoundsl? ... what would be the benefits? (im asking because it seems androenhance use is to sugarcoat a cycle, rather than considering it like a compound that can be used solo or anabolic by itself), in fact i was going to include dermacrine the first weeks of my cycle, but now with androenhance id probably give it a try!... i love primordial topicals

For the sole purpose of adding a NON inject NON oral administered product --- AE could be beneficial due to the UNIQUE compound Super-11 which will be much different in effects than most of the typical compounds you are using as the blocking of 11 bHSD will be nice for keeping the mid-section tight.

-Matt

 

[sking6464]

love me some dhea ontop of test/sd/tbol...........i can always feel its effects!!!

 

[HereToStudy]

love me some dhea ontop of test/sd/tbol...........i can always feel its effects!!!

You know he is not running the inj.

:laugh:

 

[sking6464]

You know he is not running the inj.

:laugh:

if his gf leaves him from suspicion of cheating while he actually cheats with seniors, and isnt around to pin his delicate ripped skin thats so tight the needle can hit bone, then yeah its off for sure

sd/tbol bridge with dermacrine or androhard is my guess, and hell sprinkle on that proviron

 

[MattPorter]

if his gf leaves him from suspicion of cheating while he actually cheats with seniors, and isnt around to pin his delicate ripped skin thats so tight the needle can hit bone, then yeah its off for sure

sd/tbol bridge with dermacrine or androhard is my guess, and hell sprinkle on that proviron

Superdrol stacked with Turinabol is now considered bridging???

Whats a cycle?

-Matt

 

[KenTheEagle]

thanks for the responses, and yes i am pinning, why is so hard to believe? why would i bother posting all this for no reason? i have so many reasons to pin including winning dat contest even if i am not there, i just gonna show my results and crush the competitors, just as i promised ... by the way sorry for my late response, i was o vacation, just came back today , Sking, it is nice to see you (for some reason )

and yes id prolly give AE a try, while im on the kicker compound

 

[sking6464]

thanks for the responses, and yes i am pinning, why is so hard to believe? why would i bother posting all this for no reason? i have so many reasons to pin including winning dat contest even if i am not there, i just gonna show my results and crush the competitors, just as i promised ... by the way sorry for my late response, i was o vacation, just came back today , Sking, it is nice to see you (for some reason )

and yes id prolly give AE a try, while im on the kicker compound

^^^^^^^yeeeees!

 

[KenTheEagle]

^^^^^^^yeeeees!

i can imagine that moment ow yes baby, i have the royal flush, put your chips on that table

 

[sking6464]

i can imagine that moment ow yes baby, i have the royal flush, put your chips on that table

i put my chips on the table son, and after you got what you wanted you bitched im more jacked cause iv been at it longer n train harder lol
dude, what you think, you gonna take your 'epic' cycle and be built like me in 3months? and even if what you think, im staying home watching the view with fkn miss vickies???? cmon man

youll learn eventually you gotta get under the bar and push something too

 

[KenTheEagle]

i put my chips on the table son, and after you got what you wanted you bitched im more jacked cause iv been at it longer n train harder lol
dude, what you think, you gonna take your 'epic' cycle and be built like me in 3months? and even if what you think, im staying home watching the view with fkn miss vickies???? cmon man

youll learn eventually you gotta get under the bar and push something too

hum, i dont want to get too big, just need to get to my goals, but i couldnt explain, youll see my results. this is something methodic, with very little margin of error, ive been planning this for so long. i push myself to the limit till i feel nausea and feel like i cant keep it anymore... just because i am not a massive bodybuilder (i dont plan to be it) doesnt mean i am not dedicated.