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  1.  06-18-2012  03:35 PM
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    First SD cycle prep


    So I'm planning on running SD in a few months. In PCT for Hdrol right now, so gotta wait a little while after that not trying to jump right into another cycle and jack myself all up. I am going to run LGI SD-10 for a winter bulk, it's currently the only part of the stack I have on order. Going to kinda order stuff one at a time, easier on the wallet. Also thinking I'm going to run Stano-200 alongside it, I've heard this is good to stack with SD because it helps with estro sides supposedly.

    So here's a rough outline of my plan:

    SD-10/20/20/20/0/0/0/0
    4AD-400/400/400/400/0/0/0/0
    Stano-0/0/0/0/800/800/1000/1000
    Aegis-1 cap ed
    Cycle Support

    PCT
    Nolva-20/20/10/10/0/0
    Erase-1/2/3/3/3/1
    Endosurge-6/6/6/6/6/6
    DAA-3/3/3/3/3/3
    Reduce XT-3/3/3/3/3/3



    And then obviously the staples like fish oil, multi-v, protein and all that along with the stack. For PCT with Hdrol I'm running Torem, but I was thinking about giving Nolva a go for this SD cycle.

    With Hdrol I kept the cycle simple since it's a "mild" PH, and it worked well. For SD I want to make sure I have all my bases covered since it is a much stronger compound, with much greater risk. Thanks for any help I'll update this main post as people recommend changes, then once all is GTG I'll save a copy of the cycle for when I need it.
    SUPERDARKSIDE TIME! Test E with SD kicker first time pinning :)
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/227213-test-e-sd.html



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    Also would it maybe be better to run the stano 8 weeks, starting with 4 alongside the SD? Like 600/600/600/600/800/800/800/800. I've also seen another thread with someone doing an SD stack running the stano 0/0/0/0/800/800/800/800 but I don't get why you would run it separately like that.
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    I'm running the same exact stack in the winter for a bulk. The way im doing it is:
    SD- which is a wet compound running 20/20/20/20 or 30 with 4Ad (4dhea)
    Stano- dry compound
    0/0/0/0/800/800/1000/1000
    This is the best way to run it. Not together.
    8 weeks total than pc

    I'm currently doing Epi and stano. Same way as I will do with Sd but without the 4ad
    "It never gets easier, you just get stronger"

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    Originally Posted by halfhuman
    I'm running the same exact stack in the winter for a bulk. The way im doing it is:
    SD- which is a wet compound running 20/20/20/20 or 30 with 4Ad (4dhea)
    Stano- dry compound
    0/0/0/0/800/800/1000/1000
    This is the best way to run it. Not together.
    8 weeks total than pc

    I'm currently doing Epi and stano. Same way as I will do with Sd but without the 4ad
    Superdrol is Dry

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    Oooppps ur right. Meant to say it has strong glycogen storage and depends on carbs. Makes u crave carbs.
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    Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    I'm running the same exact stack in the winter for a bulk. The way im doing it is:
    SD- which is a wet compound running 20/20/20/20 or 30 with 4Ad (4dhea)
    Stano- dry compound
    0/0/0/0/800/800/1000/1000
    This is the best way to run it. Not together.
    8 weeks total than pc

    I'm currently doing Epi and stano. Same way as I will do with Sd but without the 4ad
    That sounds good I'll update the main post to reflect the change. You think I'll be alright running the stano that high? I know people usually run it high but I've never used it before so not sure about going up to 1000.
    SUPERDARKSIDE TIME! Test E with SD kicker first time pinning :)
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/227213-test-e-sd.html

  7.  06-19-2012  05:09 PM
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    I ran stano for the first 3 weeks of my Epi cycle. I ran week one at 600 (which is the lowest u should go) and 800 the other two weeks. Running it at 800 is good enough. I want to go up to 1000 which I believe is the sweet spot. People run it higher than that. After the Epi is done ima run the stano an extra 3 weeks at 800. I would've went up to 100 but I only have a bottle left. Might always run a cycle this way. Keeps the cycle longer and gains easier to keep while drying and leaning out.
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    Originally Posted by halfhuman
    Oooppps ur right. Meant to say it has strong glycogen storage and depends on carbs. Makes u crave carbs.
    Word! Definitely vouch for this lol

  9.  06-20-2012  02:58 PM
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    Updated to have last two weeks of stano at 1000. Also put in Aegis for 1 cap a day, but still not sure if I should maybe use two while I'm on the SD?
    SUPERDARKSIDE TIME! Test E with SD kicker first time pinning :)
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/227213-test-e-sd.html

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    Niceee! You and I doing the same exact stack. When u plan on starting it? I'm starting mine nov 26th. :-) as far as the udca im not to sure.
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    Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    Niceee! You and I doing the same exact stack. When u plan on starting it? I'm starting mine nov 26th. :-) as far as the udca im not to sure.
    I'm planning on running it in September right now. If I get all the stuff and it's just sitting there I may decide to run it in August though lol.
    SUPERDARKSIDE TIME! Test E with SD kicker first time pinning :)
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    Originally Posted by SuperPro

    I'm planning on running it in September right now. If I get all the stuff and it's just sitting there I may decide to run it in August though lol.
    Lol. You need to log it. The anticipation is a b!tch! Lol
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    Why are you under the impression SD has estrogen sides?
    It doesnt aromatize. Theres no point in running an AI during or after a SD cycle, youd be doing yourself a diservice.

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    Who's running an Ai?
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    Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    Who's running an Ai?
    If you read the OP he talks about wanting to use adex or asin on cycle.

  16.  06-20-2012  04:02 PM
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    I heard it was good to run an AI during SD cycles, guess I heard wrong. I thought post cycle you should still use an AI because of increased estrogen from being on cycle. From what I understand test levels rise on cycle, and thus so does estrogen since your body is trying to stay in equilibrium, and so when your test drops after cycle you are left with excess estrogen. Maybe I don't have that right, not sure but that's what I thought.

    Added 4ad to the mix to be ran at the same time as the SD as suggested by jbryand101.
    SUPERDARKSIDE TIME! Test E with SD kicker first time pinning :)
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/227213-test-e-sd.html

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    Originally Posted by handcannon7

    If you read the OP he talks about wanting to use adex or asin on cycle.
    Oh sorry. I must've missed that. An Ai for pct is always a good thing. I don't think during cycle would reap any benefits.
    "It never gets easier, you just get stronger"

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    What's the concept behind running sd and stano separately?

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    Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    Oh sorry. I must've missed that. An Ai for pct is always a good thing. I don't think during cycle would reap any benefits.
    No its not....

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    Originally Posted by handcannon7
    No its not....
    Elaborate?
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