1test transdermal vs. 1test cyp
- 09-29-2004, 08:23 PM
1test transdermal vs. 1test cyp
Anyone have experience with both and can give some feedback. I am interested in the 1test cyp but not really big on pinning. Want to know if its worth my time to pin the 1test cyp. I ran some searches and got some feedback. However I would like some more feedback. Thanks.
- 09-29-2004, 09:11 PM
I think it's worth it personally. It gives results comparable to m1t after 8 weeks on, and the gains are much easier to keep. If money is of no concern, and you really just can't bear with pinning then go with a really high dose of the dermal.
- 09-29-2004, 10:16 PM
09-29-2004, 11:34 PM
You mean what it would be like if you were on m1t for 8 weeks. Or an 8week cyp cycle is like what m1t does for you in a few weeks? Not sure how you meant it.Originally Posted by ryansm
09-29-2004, 11:40 PM
09-29-2004, 11:44 PM
so as in getting like 15lbs onto you, but much easier to keep, and minus all the liver toxicity plus everything else thats wrong with m1t + all we dont know that is wrong with it
09-29-2004, 11:53 PM
Indeed. . . Plus the other things that can stack with it, and the options are abundant compared to m1t.
09-30-2004, 12:21 AM
Whats a really high dose to you?? I wouldnt mind pinning have the money to do both put the gf and parents and stuff wouldnt like the vials and needles.Originally Posted by ryansm
09-30-2004, 01:23 AM
If that's the case, just go with the M1T and take your liver protectants. Gains can be maintained if your diet, training, and PCT is in order...Originally Posted by Buc4Life04
09-30-2004, 02:15 AM
I dont trust M1T. I know a ton of bros have used it with much success, and Im definately not knocking its efficacy, Im just too unnerved by the sides and liver toxicity. Ill take 1-test dermal any day.
Id love to try 1-test cyp, though!
09-30-2004, 10:02 AM
Yea im doing both coming in 2 weeks. 2 week starter M1T then 1-t 4-ad dermalOriginally Posted by stryder
09-30-2004, 10:03 AM
BigVrunga I agree. I prefer the 1test dermal over the m1t anyday.
Thanks for the feedback rynsm. Any others?
09-30-2004, 12:47 PM
I'm 4 weeks into a 1-test cyp and sledge test cycle.I've already gained 10 pounds and still got a few weeks left.The good thing is I look leaner than I did before the cycle and I'm eating 5,000 calories a day.I've done 2 transdermal 1-test,4ad cycles and have never had gains this good.
09-30-2004, 12:55 PM
Bennet how many mg/s of 1-test are you getting per day? Notice any sides? (Hair loss, etc)
Ive done 1 1-test/4AD TD cycle, and it was awesome. A boatload of mass and strength retained in only 4 weeks. And that was at ~55mg of 1test a day.
09-30-2004, 01:41 PM
09-30-2004, 02:16 PM
I think most people pinning 1-test cyp are doing 500-600mg a week. I can't remember how often to pin though.
I was thinkin about doin a cycle where I started with M1t and 5aa cyp and after two weeks, switch the m1t to 1-test cyp and run that for a few more weeks as a bulker. I wonder how good that would be?
09-30-2004, 07:27 PM
09-30-2004, 11:37 PM
10-02-2004, 12:15 PM
10-02-2004, 01:50 PM
Ditto. 900mg/week 1test cyp. personally, I will never use a TD again.Originally Posted by Bennett
Total Pain in the ass. Pinning is the way to go. No Mercy, if you are even
considering the cyp's I would stock up before they are gone and the ban
my current cycle is posted in the cycle forum if you are interested.
10-02-2004, 06:26 PM
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