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    What did arnie take?


    Remember seeing a pic of him when he was about 25oy u could see he was going places fast!ha just wondering what he had?dbol and??

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    Also every pic I see of him he's not bulky like u get with dbol he's toned!how does that work?
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    He had d-Bol test and nandrolone I believe from what I read he woul run 25mg d-Bol for first 2 weeks then 300-600mg of test for 4weeks then taper down and run the 19 nortestosterone last 2 weeks cuase at the time it was believed since nortestosterone is androgenic weaker your nuts could start to recover while you take it we now know better
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    His genetics were a huge factor in his size etc, it's rumored he didn't take a lot of gear
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    Yeah genitics play a role in every ifbb pro's size diet and training also play a big role gear is just iceing on the cake
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    I've heard he was a big fan of primobolan.
    Could explain why he was never bloated.
    But we will never know for sure hah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheif
    I've heard he was a big fan of primobolan.
    Could explain why he was never bloated.
    But we will never know for sure hah
    He was never filmed or photographed bloated that is. I'm sure he made sure he looked his best when the cameras were around so who knows really
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeg313

    He was never filmed or photographed bloated that is. I'm sure he made sure he looked his best when the cameras were around so who knows really
    Good point man.
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    he did 4 dbols a day 40mgs and a shot of test a week, thats from ric drasin in rics corner who trained with him.
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    Good point man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    he did 4 dbols a day 40mgs and a shot of test a week, thats from ric drasin in rics corner who trained with him.
    That sounds about right, I think I remember reading something to that affect somewhere a long time back and whoever was writing about it was mentioning the minimal amounts they used back then compared to the amounts of juice and orher substances used today. Bla bla bla it was something along that line
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    he did 4 dbols a day 40mgs and a shot of test a week, thats from ric drasin in rics corner who trained with him.
    That sounds believable haha.
    I've heard he would go 20-30 weeks on dbol at a time.
    I don't know about that.. Haha

    So many possibilities.
    The one you stated seems plausible though.
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    Common bro why would u take d Bol just take plain steroids if ur gonna do it since first place
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheif

    That sounds believable haha.
    I've heard he would go 20-30 weeks on dbol at a time.
    I don't know about that.. Haha

    So many possibilities.
    The one you stated seems plausible though.
    I found a blog post online that showed a cycle that they attributed to him - it was 5 weeks of primo at 600 mg, 5 weeks at 800 mg, 4 weeks at 1000 mg, then 3 weeks at 800, 3 weeks at 600. It was stacked with dbol the whole time, going from 60 with the 600 primo, to 80 with the 800, to 100 with the 1000. Then there was a dbol/deca bridge.

    Not sure how much truth there is to that, but it's more info
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    Quote Originally Posted by srblan

    I found a blog post online that showed a cycle that they attributed to him - it was 5 weeks of primo at 600 mg, 5 weeks at 800 mg, 4 weeks at 1000 mg, then 3 weeks at 800, 3 weeks at 600. It was stacked with dbol the whole time, going from 60 with the 600 primo, to 80 with the 800, to 100 with the 1000. Then there was a dbol/deca bridge.

    Not sure how much truth there is to that, but it's more info
    That would be insane! Haha but still believable.
    He did what he had to to look his best.
    Haha
    We should all run the same cycle!
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    Common bro why would u take d Bol just take plain steroids if ur gonna do it since first place
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheif

    That would be insane! Haha but still believable.
    He did what he had to to look his best.
    Haha
    We should all run the same cycle!
    Lol, they didn't know about PCT then and didn't realize that pyramiding is unnecessary. It's a hell of a regimen, that's a half year cycle and he repeated it after the bridge!
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    Quote Originally Posted by srblan

    I found a blog post online that showed a cycle that they attributed to him - it was 5 weeks of primo at 600 mg, 5 weeks at 800 mg, 4 weeks at 1000 mg, then 3 weeks at 800, 3 weeks at 600. It was stacked with dbol the whole time, going from 60 with the 600 primo, to 80 with the 800, to 100 with the 1000. Then there was a dbol/deca bridge.

    Not sure how much truth there is to that, but it's more info
    I wonder in overall yearly quantity of gear how that compares to what the pros use nowadays. Guess only the pros knows
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeg313

    I wonder in overall yearly quantity of gear how that compares to what the pros use nowadays. Guess only the pros knows
    I'd guess pretty low compared to pros today, plus they add in things like HGH and insulin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srblan

    I found a blog post online that showed a cycle that they attributed to him - it was 5 weeks of primo at 600 mg, 5 weeks at 800 mg, 4 weeks at 1000 mg, then 3 weeks at 800, 3 weeks at 600. It was stacked with dbol the whole time, going from 60 with the 600 primo, to 80 with the 800, to 100 with the 1000. Then there was a dbol/deca bridge.

    Not sure how much truth there is to that, but it's more info
    Thanks for all the replys fellas yeah il agree that's a hell of a cycle ha ha stacking with dbol for that long is that possible?gee ur liver would know all about it hey, was there IM dbol back then?but yeah do what evers possible to be the best theres always compromise,

    very interesting convo tho he's a legend in my eyes as I'm sure he is in meany others, as is lou frigno, Mick cats etc, crazy bodys! I can appreciate all the hard work and hours to get to where those guy were!crazy!
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    the exact quote was "we all did 3 dbols a day and a shot a week. And if you were a certain austrian you would do 4 dbols a day and a shot aweek. The really didnt do that much back then they just trained really hard and arnold did gear since he was 15 thats over 10 years of gear when he was 28 and won he olympia, i hate when people say he has awesome genetics he was taking steroids since 15 thats y he looks so good lol.
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    Thanks for all the replys fellas yeah il agree that's a hell of a cycle ha ha stacking with dbol for that long is that possible?gee ur liver would know all about it hey, was there IM dbol back then?but yeah do what evers possible to be the best theres always compromise,

    very interesting convo tho he's a legend in my eyes as I'm sure he is in meany others, as is lou frigno, Mick cats etc, crazy bodys! I can appreciate all the hard work and hours to get to where those guy were!crazy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    i hate when people say he has awesome genetics he was taking steroids since 15 thats y he looks so good lol.
    I think I get what your saying. There are people that still don't think 99.9% of all pro bodybuilders use steroids and lots of them. But you have to agree his amazing genetics and his insane work ethic were just as important as years of gear. Guaranteed you give someone with garbage genetics and poor training all of the same gear, they still wouldn't be 1/10th the bb icon he is.
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    I heard it was lots of dbol and primo, not much test use back then from what I hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthersby View Post
    I think I get what your saying. There are people that still don't think 99.9% of all pro bodybuilders use steroids and lots of them. But you have to agree his amazing genetics and his insane work ethic were just as important as years of gear. Guaranteed you give someone with garbage genetics and poor training all of the same gear, they still wouldn't be 1/10th the bb icon he is.
    what! you mean ronnie didnt get that big by using cell mass and no xplode....
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    nope, he used creatine and muscle milk
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
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    hahaha. Obviously some genetics and lots of nutrition and hard work go in but these idiots that say its just his genetics like STFU
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    what! you mean ronnie didnt get that big by using cell mass and no xplode....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    nope, he used creatine and muscle milk
    Blahahah ^^^^^ creatine n muscle milk ha ha hahahahah

    I thought the hole point of juice is genetics doing matter anymore??????
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    Quote Originally Posted by skindog101

    Blahahah ^^^^^ creatine n muscle milk ha ha hahahahah

    I thought the hole point of juice is genetics doing matter anymore??????
    Not true, how a person responds to gear is genetics-based. Also, how you hold the muscle that the gear helps you gain is determined by genetics.
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    you can't change your bone structure or muscle attachments/bellies with gear.
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
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    Quote Originally Posted by srblan

    Lol, they didn't know about PCT then and didn't realize that pyramiding is unnecessary. It's a hell of a regimen, that's a half year cycle and he repeated it after the bridge!
    PSHHH, who needs that PCT stuff anyways. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydollars
    His genetics were a huge factor in his size etc, it's rumored he didn't take a lot of gear
    Yeah right. Hilarious! Hope its a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srblan

    Not true, how a person responds to gear is genetics-based. Also, how you hold the muscle that the gear helps you gain is determined by genetics.
    So true, plenty of gym rats running 1 gram of test a week and are half the size of the pros, I really feel that "most" pros don't use as much as we think, but then again there are guys using insane amounts
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    Generics are a big part, anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant. Otherwise we'd have tons of people looking like cutler, Jackson, etc running around if all they needed was gear and training.

    The sane way people react differently to tren and PHs or orals. Some people don't respond as well as others and some get huge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11
    Generics are a big part, anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant. Otherwise we'd have tons of people looking like cutler, Jackson, etc running around if all they needed was gear and training.

    The sane way people react differently to tren and PHs or orals. Some people don't respond as well as others and some get huge.
    ^ exactly ^
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    Arnold took alot more steroids than the other guys in his day. franco said it scared him how much he took. But of course Arnolds favorite was "the breakfast of champions" Dbol. One other way you know he took alot of steroids and started early was he had quadruple bypass surgery, if he was not a millionare and had the best care he could very well be dead. But look at what he said in Pumping Iron ...you have to push through the pain period and thats what seperates a champion from a nobody",
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11
    Generics are a big part, anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant. Otherwise we'd have tons of people looking like cutler, Jackson, etc running around if all they needed was gear and training.

    The sane way people react differently to tren and PHs or orals. Some people don't respond as well as others and some get huge.
    I think that being your job and only responsibility has a big factor too. Not discounting genetics but they prolly only get your foot in the door when it comes to that level. Imagine if all you HAD to do is eat , lift , sleep and everything else came second or was extracurricular. You had constant medical supervision and all the best of the best of everything at your disposal. Must be nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeg313 View Post
    I think that being your job and only responsibility has a big factor too. Not discounting genetics but they prolly only get your foot in the door when it comes to that level. Imagine if all you HAD to do is eat , lift , sleep and everything else came second or was extracurricular. You had constant medical supervision and all the best of the best of everything at your disposal. Must be nice
    that sounds great haha. eat lift sleep
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    No **** face. They are so huge because hey have been doing gear insulin shots after every meal, and hgh. These drugs cost at least 100 grand a year to be on according to a pro who is in prison with his wife for killing some later, think his nae is craig titus. Not only do the do the above listed they eat perfectly and train hard ALL DAY everyday. Thats why no one looks like that cause no one can afford the drugs today in the amounts the use. Stop being a stupid POS
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    Generics are a big part, anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant. Otherwise we'd have tons of people looking like cutler, Jackson, etc running around if all they needed was gear and training.

    The sane way people react differently to tren and PHs or orals. Some people don't respond as well as others and some get huge.
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    did anyone look like jay or ronnie in arnolds day? No obviously not. is it because they have these crazy new genetics no one has ever heard of , no it is because after arnolds era that introduced growth hormone and insulin thats why everyone is SO big now. Not becasue they have great genetics. See where im going with this. Did anyone look like arnold b4 him or the guys in the 60's? No because steroids werent out yet. Come on man this is really easy to pick up on. Ya genetics play a role but nothing like what ur saying they do.
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    No **** face. They are so huge because hey have been doing gear insulin shots after every meal, and hgh. These drugs cost at least 100 grand a year to be on according to a pro who is in prison with his wife for killing some later, think his nae is craig titus. Not only do the do the above listed they eat perfectly and train hard ALL DAY everyday. Thats why no one looks like that cause no one can afford the drugs today in the amounts the use. Stop being a stupid POS
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydollars
    His genetics were a huge factor in his size etc, it's rumored he didn't take a lot of gear
    I read an article in MD this month that Leon Brown said Arnold only used gear for three months before a show...other than that...not much I guess?
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    I'm not getting into name calling because I respect everyones viewpoints, but I agree with jamesm on this. I've seen people with amazing genetics who eat AND train like sht with NO gear get better results than some doing everything right on cycle. Genetics take you to a certain point, knowledge, dedication, and discipline do, and finally responding well to gear( and yes, husker, lots and lots of it. I fully agree with you on that part)
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