What did arnie take?

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  1. Generics are a big part, anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant. Otherwise we'd have tons of people looking like cutler, Jackson, etc running around if all they needed was gear and training.

    The sane way people react differently to tren and PHs or orals. Some people don't respond as well as others and some get huge.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11
    Generics are a big part, anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant. Otherwise we'd have tons of people looking like cutler, Jackson, etc running around if all they needed was gear and training.

    The sane way people react differently to tren and PHs or orals. Some people don't respond as well as others and some get huge.
    ^ exactly ^
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  3. Arnold took alot more steroids than the other guys in his day. franco said it scared him how much he took. But of course Arnolds favorite was "the breakfast of champions" Dbol. One other way you know he took alot of steroids and started early was he had quadruple bypass surgery, if he was not a millionare and had the best care he could very well be dead. But look at what he said in Pumping Iron ...you have to push through the pain period and thats what seperates a champion from a nobody",

  4. Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11
    Generics are a big part, anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant. Otherwise we'd have tons of people looking like cutler, Jackson, etc running around if all they needed was gear and training.

    The sane way people react differently to tren and PHs or orals. Some people don't respond as well as others and some get huge.
    I think that being your job and only responsibility has a big factor too. Not discounting genetics but they prolly only get your foot in the door when it comes to that level. Imagine if all you HAD to do is eat , lift , sleep and everything else came second or was extracurricular. You had constant medical supervision and all the best of the best of everything at your disposal. Must be nice

  5. Quote Originally Posted by mikeg313 View Post
    I think that being your job and only responsibility has a big factor too. Not discounting genetics but they prolly only get your foot in the door when it comes to that level. Imagine if all you HAD to do is eat , lift , sleep and everything else came second or was extracurricular. You had constant medical supervision and all the best of the best of everything at your disposal. Must be nice
    that sounds great haha. eat lift sleep
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  6. No **** face. They are so huge because hey have been doing gear insulin shots after every meal, and hgh. These drugs cost at least 100 grand a year to be on according to a pro who is in prison with his wife for killing some later, think his nae is craig titus. Not only do the do the above listed they eat perfectly and train hard ALL DAY everyday. Thats why no one looks like that cause no one can afford the drugs today in the amounts the use. Stop being a stupid POS
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    Generics are a big part, anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant. Otherwise we'd have tons of people looking like cutler, Jackson, etc running around if all they needed was gear and training.

    The sane way people react differently to tren and PHs or orals. Some people don't respond as well as others and some get huge.

  7. did anyone look like jay or ronnie in arnolds day? No obviously not. is it because they have these crazy new genetics no one has ever heard of , no it is because after arnolds era that introduced growth hormone and insulin thats why everyone is SO big now. Not becasue they have great genetics. See where im going with this. Did anyone look like arnold b4 him or the guys in the 60's? No because steroids werent out yet. Come on man this is really easy to pick up on. Ya genetics play a role but nothing like what ur saying they do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    No **** face. They are so huge because hey have been doing gear insulin shots after every meal, and hgh. These drugs cost at least 100 grand a year to be on according to a pro who is in prison with his wife for killing some later, think his nae is craig titus. Not only do the do the above listed they eat perfectly and train hard ALL DAY everyday. Thats why no one looks like that cause no one can afford the drugs today in the amounts the use. Stop being a stupid POS

  8. Quote Originally Posted by jaydollars
    His genetics were a huge factor in his size etc, it's rumored he didn't take a lot of gear
    I read an article in MD this month that Leon Brown said Arnold only used gear for three months before a show...other than that...not much I guess?
    I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary. - Lou Holtz

  9. I'm not getting into name calling because I respect everyones viewpoints, but I agree with jamesm on this. I've seen people with amazing genetics who eat AND train like sht with NO gear get better results than some doing everything right on cycle. Genetics take you to a certain point, knowledge, dedication, and discipline do, and finally responding well to gear( and yes, husker, lots and lots of it. I fully agree with you on that part)

  10. Did Arnold run a lot of gear? Yes. Over a long period of time? Yes. Compared to what's considered a lot by today's standards? No.
    ...GMG760 Version 2.0 ... Back from the dead.

  11. ya my bad on the name calling did heavy squats and i am on daa and bridge right now, a little angry lol. People dont realize the affect thats hgh and insulin had and has on the sport of BB. And not to mention all the other peptides.
    Quote Originally Posted by Matthersby View Post
    I'm not getting into name calling because I respect everyones viewpoints, but I agree with jamesm on this. I've seen people with amazing genetics who eat AND train like sht with NO gear get better results than some doing everything right on cycle. Genetics take you to a certain point, knowledge, dedication, and discipline do, and finally responding well to gear( and yes, husker, lots and lots of it. I fully agree with you on that part)

  12. Yeah the name calling is out of line here. This is a conversation in which none of the discussed topic is based on official documented fact. It's a speculation. Relax.

  13. go to rics corner on youtube and watch the three parts where ric interviews steve davis he lays it all out, also watch the robbie robinson interviews great too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    I read an article in MD this month that Leon Brown said Arnold only used gear for three months before a show...other than that...not much I guess?

  14. Bottom Line Arnold did alot of steroids, people saying he only used a little need to listen what his workout buddies said. I already told yall Franco said that that arnold took so mny it scared him. And all this talk of arnold's genetics....who knows? He started juicing when he was 15 16 years old, he admits to that, and you can just tell by looking that he was. Also a little off topic, the guys back then look way better than they do now. My avatar pic Frank Zane was around 180 and id much rather look like him than any of these freaks now

  15. Quote Originally Posted by TomGreen
    Bottom Line Arnold did alot of steroids, people saying he only used a little need to listen what his workout buddies said. I already told yall Franco said that that arnold took so mny it scared him. And all this talk of arnold's genetics....who knows? He started juicing when he was 15 16 years old, he admits to that, and you can just tell by looking that he was. Also a little off topic, the guys back then look way better than they do now. My avatar pic Frank Zane was around 180 and id much rather look like him than any of these freaks now
    I'll second that as far as the looks go. I'd rather look like Arnold or those guys back then rather then cutler or ronnie now. Although their accomplishments are great I'm just not into lookin like a man shaped apple fritter! Lol

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    ya my bad on the name calling did heavy squats and i am on daa and bridge right now, a little angry lol. People dont realize the affect thats hgh and insulin had and has on the sport of BB. And not to mention all the other peptides.
    One of the biggest, strongest guys I know is a mild type 2 diabetic and he's been manipulating his insulin for years. I've also seen him go to the ER 4 times. One of the most incredible, dangerous, and widely used hormones in bodybuilding.

  17. So he's already type 2 and he's messing around with his insulin???
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  18. Yep. The guy was a monster but every couple of weeks his stare woukd go blank and he'd start pouring sweat. But that guy repped 365 on squats well into the teens.

  19. Some things aren't worth the cost IMHO....
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  20. It's kind of similar to 'oops I abused gear so now I get TRT, yay!. I almost envied him in an irresponsibly effed up way. Except when he would almost die. :/

  21. lol
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  22. Hey this is off topic, i just made my account because i was lookn for advice on doing a ph cycle. I made a thread and only had one response. If anyone else knows anything about it, your input would be great. I just registered the other day, i figured anabolicminds would be more helpful than bodybuilding.om on ph's.

  23. it wont let me post the link. but its btw a 5 week vs 6 week halodrol cycle. Iv seen some say 5 weeks is where it tops off and 6 is where you just get sides, but also people have said youll keep getting gains on 6 and there no difference between shutdown or that much stress so just do 6 weeks.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by TomGreen
    Hey this is off topic, i just made my account because i was lookn for advice on doing a ph cycle. I made a thread and only had one response. If anyone else knows anything about it, your input would be great. I just registered the other day, i figured anabolicminds would be more helpful than bodybuilding.om on ph's.
    GOD DAMNT ! Threads stay on topic here and never go astray!!!!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by mikeg313 View Post
    GOD DAMNT ! Threads stay on topic here and never go astray!!!!
    sorry man, i wanted to just post the link but it said i cant becuase i dont have enough posts. So i guess ill get back on topic....Arnold took alot of dbol and admitted to it, but do the guys nowadays admit to what their taking or do they keep everything to themsleves

  26. Quote Originally Posted by TomGreen

    sorry man, i wanted to just post the link but it said i cant becuase i dont have enough posts. So i guess ill get back on topic....Arnold took alot of dbol and admitted to it, but do the guys nowadays admit to what their taking or do they keep everything to themsleves
    It seems like they don't comment on it much until they retire. But I don't follow too closely. Especially since alot of their income comes from legal supp companies. Hydroxycut wouldn't be pleased if Jay told everyone it was clen,winny,mast,var, lasix and test that gets him ready for a show, not their new 'hardcore' blend.

  27. thats my point since we have insulin peptides and hgh now BBS are SOOO much bigger not b/c of genetics but b/c of drugs. DUH
    Quote Originally Posted by Matthersby View Post
    One of the biggest, strongest guys I know is a mild type 2 diabetic and he's been manipulating his insulin for years. I've also seen him go to the ER 4 times. One of the most incredible, dangerous, and widely used hormones in bodybuilding.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by TomGreen

    sorry man, i wanted to just post the link but it said i cant becuase i dont have enough posts. So i guess ill get back on topic....Arnold took alot of dbol and admitted to it, but do the guys nowadays admit to what their taking or do they keep everything to themsleves
    Lol it was a joke bro!

  29. What did he take? Southern California? The beach?

    He took advantage of every piece of a$$ that came along. 4-5 sets and then on to the next piece of a$$. That's what keeps you strong and your test levels high. He was the best at it.....

  30. Really it wouldn't matter if u had the best genetics in the world u could never be a cutler with out a sh*t load if juice!I read to they stay on it for years at a time cos of photo shoots n stuff they can afford to come off it cos they wouldn't look at the peak!that's gota stuff up ur body sum what hey!plumbs would be nonexistent ha ha how does insulin help muscle grow?and the advantages out way the risk?
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