Getting my cutting cycle secured (questions)

[uniifirex]

Well, its been a long 2 year bulk, and i feel its about time i cut.

I'm about 206 right now at 5'10 3/4's.

Cut goes as schedule
225 protein, 250 carbs, 50 fat (give or take, 2200 calories with marinades and such)

Most sources are chicken and brown rice, fats from PB/nuts.
No cheat meals, no eating out.

5-6 meals a day, long as i hit my macro's and i hit the sack then wake up and repeat
cardio 45min in AM(orPM) at 140BPM
cardio 20 min after workout(shake before cardio but after lifting) 20min at 140BPM

I am on 750mg of test e (standalone)
I am soon to be starting my anti-catabolics but i am TOTALLY unsure how to run it

I'm going to start clen at 20mcg, and ketotifen at 1mg a day, but I've heard numerous ways of running this
either-
clen 2 days on, 1 day off, keto always on
clen 2 weeks on, during 2 weeks off, keto
6 weeks of both straight

I will slowly ramp my clen upward.

since I've been on such a long bulk, stomach is enlarged, and 2200 calories a day is leaving my stomach rumbling between each meal
so i also am wondering

ephedrine? Can i use this to suppress appetite?


MAIN QUESTION IM ASKING-
how to run clen
should i also run ephedrine to suppress appetite

thanks in advance!

 

[laserbluess]

i would say pick either clen or ephedrine. im not sure if they both hit the same receptors, but using both doesn't seem like a good idea. i have no way to back this up, its just that clen by itself is very strong. 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off for clen is a good protocol. after 2 weeks you will probably want to come off it for a bit. for appetite suppression, well, not too sure about that. i would say something like dexaprine, but i think that is also a stimulant, which you would want to avoid while on clen. maybe pick up some Power Chews! that's what i just did and it helps me get through those tummy rumblings when my body is yelling at me to eat more!

 

[boxer78]

ECA killed my appetite, clen did not. Just food for thought.

 

[ManBeast]

I highly advise against running clen and eca at the same time, monitor your BP carefully as well when using stims on gear.

ManBeast

 

[uniifirex]

Yeah, ephedrine is just a "maybe" kind of thing, as i was curious to running during clen and keto.

 

[MidwestBeast]

What are you dropping your cals to 2200 down from?

Don't make a drastic jump down; ease into it (assuming you're jumping from 3k or 3k+).

I'd opt for HIIT cardio over the LISS stuff for extended periods of time (just my preference).

I'd also cycle carbs a bit (don't keep the exact same macros for every single day for the duration).

No eating out is fine, but be sure to once every 2 weeks minimum; probably weekly since you're on test, spike your calories. If you're following 2200/day then do one day a week or every 2 weeks of 3500 calories. Ideally, just eat more clean food sources, but if you did want to have a cheat meal (read: meal, not DAY), this would be the time to do it.

Not adjusting cals will cause your thyroid to downregulate over time and you'll just have your metabolism working against you.

 

[uniifirex]

i went from 3k-2.7 then i said fck it and researched towards a cut, so i tapered my way down, and slowly adjusting.
I'm looking into HIIT but i have an enflamed tendon in my hamstring so i cant go to crazy.
I'm also going to carb load every 2 weeks for a day, forgot to include.

edit- cheat once a month, otherwise i get cravings.

 

[MidwestBeast]

i went from 3k-2.7 then i said fck it and researched towards a cut, so i tapered my way down, and slowly adjusting.
I'm looking into HIIT but i have an enflamed tendon in my hamstring so i cant go to crazy.
I'm also going to carb load every 2 weeks for a day, forgot to include.

edit- cheat once a month, otherwise i get cravings.

Glad to see the cals had been at least somewhat slowly lowered. That's something I wish I knew in the past; jumping to a drastically lower amount (or higher amount) does not go nearly as well as making a gradual adjustment.

As for the tendon; I get it, man. That makes sense, then. Don't aggravate it. I just listed that because if all things are equal, I'd choose HIIT over LISS (at least as a primary form).

I would stagger some days and use non-lifting days to lower carbs from your 200g+ down to at least the 100g mark and then up fats on those days (or just let those be lower calorie days in general). I wouldn't think you need to do any type of carb loading while taking in 200g+ on a daily basis, though being on test obviously makes this different (just listen to your body).