best hormone for strength
- 08-31-2004, 08:23 PM
- 08-31-2004, 09:20 PM
- 08-31-2004, 11:06 PM
Originally Posted by MikeK
Personal experience for strength is Fina.
I will be trying anavar shortly, i heard you get mad strength gains, it doesn't really screw with your natural test, no estrogen related sides, and makes you appear hard. Also if you are a powerifter there is very little weight gain associated with it.
No wonder it's so damn expensive.
08-31-2004, 11:15 PM
I don't think anything works better then trenblone. I believe it is stronger then halo according to bigcat. Is most defenantly safer
08-31-2004, 11:31 PM
Tren helped me put ~20 lbs on my 2 rep max in about 4 weeks.... while dieting somewhat!
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08-31-2004, 11:58 PM
09-01-2004, 02:04 AM
fina is awesome for strength, even by itself. In fact, the first thing I notice when using it is the big jump in strength. Throw in a little dbol and test and fugetaboutit.
09-01-2004, 05:56 PM
yes.. fina and test base(oil or water) is great.. but really, i love 1-test cyp with test base oil.Originally Posted by Jarconis
same stregth gains, but not as much acne. in fact you can get very lean on a 1-test cyp / test base oil stack. add 50mg ed drol and its over with.. lean and mean.
09-01-2004, 06:18 PM
Anavar is always popular with PL because of the insane increase in creatine phosphate stores it provides. At 15mg/d there was measured increase on day 3 in the study I was reading.
Lift heavy and eat lots of dead animals! Yes, that's me in my avatar.
09-01-2004, 07:30 PM
09-01-2004, 07:39 PM
09-01-2004, 09:12 PM
VERY GOOD... halo to me is the best for an immediate lift in aggression and focus... couple that with some ec and you will be over the top.. i drop 20mg halo right before league basketball games.Originally Posted by bobthebuilder
09-02-2004, 02:18 PM
Those Halos made me mean as a damned snake! If I tried taking them before a basketball game, I'd foul out in the first period - and that's if I was in the stands!!!
09-02-2004, 02:48 PM
09-02-2004, 03:51 PM
Not to hijack this thread but my question is along the same lines. Other than Tren what is the best for strength? Just can't handle the sides of Tren to justify its use. It rocks as far as strength though. I wish I handled it better.
09-02-2004, 05:12 PM
09-02-2004, 05:44 PM
09-02-2004, 06:21 PM
Ok, good enough. I'd have to agree. What about one that won't put alot of weight on you, though. I know that that is an uncommon goal that is not for everyone but it comes in handy every once in a while.Dbol, Bold Base is suppose to work well. test base
I don't know enough about this substance. Anyone enlighten me...?Mibolerone!
09-02-2004, 06:36 PM
09-02-2004, 06:48 PM
Mibolerone is "cheque drops", and if you don't like the sides from tren don't even look at this crap. It's mainly used to increase aggression before a meet/event. A few drops under the tongue and "Hulk Smash". It's one of the most powerful drugs out there- unfortunately- it's too toxic to take enough for any sort of anabolic effect, even at like 5mg. IMO any percieved increase in strength is just that-" percieved " and due to increased aggression. Just my 2 cents.Originally Posted by Chalk User
What sides due you get with tren? Personally, the only one I get is the lack of ability to know when to shut up and just say "yes dear"! Other than that I love the stuff. You might want to try a lower dosage or something because in my opinion, by itself, nothing touches it for strength without adding alot of bloated pounds. It's also got this rap for being really harsh, but compared to anything else i've tried(dbol,test,primo,deca) it seems to be the mildest in terms of sides, even at higher dosages (150mg/ED). But everyones different-dbol is supposed to be the breakfast of champions, and I like it, but I know alot of guys who get much more out of it than me.
oops- took to long writing this bob beta me to it!
Last edited by jarhead; 09-02-2004 at 06:49 PM. Reason: oops
09-02-2004, 07:27 PM
tren was absolutley great, I was so damn strong on that stuff. I did it without test like an idiot, thinking 4-AD could keep my dick from being in the dirt. I was wrong. Tren shuts you down pretty hard especially if you run it past 6 weeks. Next time I will run it with test and I am expecting amazing results! My bench went from 225x15 to 225x21 and 255x12 (I don't go heavy due to a bad left shoulder)
09-02-2004, 08:39 PM
Isn't that what tyson supposedly took before he got hungry for ear in the ring???Originally Posted by N4cer
09-02-2004, 08:53 PM
09-02-2004, 09:13 PM
Of course it's a ridiculus dose, that was my point- That even just 5mg, enough to have strong anabolic effects, is enough to F you up. In the mcg's, you're not getting anything muscle building wise, just reaslly pissed.Originally Posted by N4cer
09-02-2004, 10:10 PM
Well between the sleepless nights, the cough(though rare), and the sweatiness it just seemed like a lot of hasell. Don't get me wrong I really like what it does for me as far as results but I still have to be able to wake up for class and be able to walk around campus with out drenching my clothes. It would take much to switch me back to the Tren "dark side" though. Actually I've been contemplating either doing a short cycle with Tren Ace again or trying a longer(relitively speaking) Tren E cycle. What do you think, would doing TA for a short period of time or switching to TE minimize the sides?
09-02-2004, 10:25 PM
ON the cheque, you would get increased mass due to:
increased aggression ---> increased strength ---> increased muscle stimulation ---> growth
But muscle gains are beside the point, as I believe this thread is about strength.
09-02-2004, 11:13 PM
Yeah, I've actually use "cheque drops" before in my early college days. I had never heard it called Milberone(sp) before though. My head wasn't in the sand I just never bother to look for it under a different name due to the fact that I was never that interested in them. The did work for some impressive PR's though.
09-02-2004, 11:15 PM
I still don't think that qualifies cheque as an even halfway decent drug for strength. By your explanation, I could use this example= talk to ex-wife--->listen to incessant bitching--->increased aggression..etc.etc. lolOriginally Posted by N4cer
But just because you get pissed and have a better workout doesn't mean cheque drops increases strength. Increased aggression is not the same thing as taking a true strength drug that increases strength thru physical / biomechanical means. I can understand your logic that if you lift harder you get stronger,etc..but if that's the thinking, caffeine and other stimulants increase traing focus etc. so why bother with cheque drops? I just think its negatives FAR outweigh any positives you might get from it, especially when there are so many more effective and safer alternatives out there.
09-02-2004, 11:25 PM
I think, if you can tolerate it well, a longer lower dosed cycle of TA or TE might be something to try. I think with shorter cycles, right when you start seein good results is a couple of weeks into it, and then you stop and the net gain isn't much at all. And it does shut you down, so then you're left with your natural levels in the dirt. But then again I'm biased because I'm a tren junkie.Originally Posted by Chalk User
09-03-2004, 12:25 AM
You've missed the point here (my aggression point was a secondary one) that mibolerone is as androgenic as it gets, and that it is best for strength, bar none. It's not debatable. It's a FACT. And the topic asks what's the best for strength - not what's the best for strength if I'm worrying about sides too.Originally Posted by jarhead
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