new to chemicals trying to learn more
- 10-13-2011, 03:57 PM
- 10-13-2011, 04:31 PM
the double bond is the little dash inside the first hexagon. the 1 position starts at the top of hexagon and goes to 4th position counter clockwise to 4th position at bottom of the 1st hexagon.
the double at the 1 i believe helps it resist liver breakdownThe difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.
10-13-2011, 04:37 PM
The enone is key to binding to the androgen receptor. This is why it's not a "pro" hormone.
Orally active steroids are alkylated at the 17 position to inhibit liver breakdown (ring D)
The "pro" hormone shown needs to be metabolized first, that Alcohol attached to C-3 needs to be oxidized, in order to be relatively active.
the E in Test E has to do with the ester that's attached, a heptanoic acid that has an ester bond to the D ring alcohol on the testosterone molecule. This makes the testosterone "fatty" and therefore accumulates in the tissue and is released over a longer time period.
10-13-2011, 06:36 PM
wow i definately didnt realize how different the two compounds really were, thanks for the info guys
10-13-2011, 06:52 PM
so i have one more question, is there a way to reduce the attached alcohol without completely changing the supplement itself? say for instance, could you take something else to make it more active.
10-13-2011, 07:16 PM
Not a chance. It takes a very strong oxidizing agent to attack that alcohol. And even so, you'd have side reactions that would result in a Dione as well. It would take legitimate chemistry in (relatively) low yields and a large pain in the ass. Don't try it at home
10-14-2011, 01:19 AM
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