Had more bloodwork done
- 08-24-2011, 06:50 AM
Had more bloodwork done
Hey guys, had symptoms of low testosterone so i went to the doctors. (Low sex drive, weak erections, lethargy)
It is measured in nmol/l and the range is 10-30 which includes men of all ages.
I went last year and came back with a value of 14, im 22 years old and according to many studies the mean for my age is 24 and i am in the lowest 5%. Considering i go to the gym lift weights, dont drink a lot and eat well that sucks compared to how lazy and poor diet everyone my age has.
I have been retested a year later, its now at 10.8 :/, the doctor said it was fine its within the range and i told her to find the study so she did on google. She said not to worry, i pushed for a referal to a hormone specialist and she said 'i dont see what good that can do but i will'.
What the **** is with gp's? And do you guys agree with me?
- 08-24-2011, 09:02 AM
It's obviously low. And endocrinologist would help you more than a gp. Have you done any cycles recently?
- 08-24-2011, 09:37 AM
08-24-2011, 10:29 AM
Go see the hormone doc asap. Esp. if you haven't cycled anything. Its good to go and be able to be honest about never running a cycle.
08-24-2011, 10:37 AM
08-24-2011, 10:43 AM
You are going to want a much more comprehensive hormone panel test done. Things like LH, FSH, shbg, perhaps even a CMP (complete metabolic panel) You need to get down to the root cause of why your levels are low if you have never done a cycle before. Those things will help to determine why and IF you perhaps have primary or secondary hypogonadism.
08-24-2011, 10:54 AM
08-24-2011, 11:08 AM
Once you get some more numbers and tests run, and hopefully find a more competent doc, you can see about getting on something like trt if it comes to that.
08-24-2011, 11:20 AM
08-24-2011, 11:31 AM
Yea GPs are morons..... this one time I had one say to me l-arginine is a steroid cuz I told him i had chest pain from it. It scared me alot when a doctor says that....how did he get his medical..
08-24-2011, 11:40 AM
Honestly I think thats unfair. I'm not sure what you do for a living, but picture all the things you expect a GP should know, on top of all of the things that they HAVE to know and understand. There's pretty well a human limit for how much knowledge you can have in such a huge area.
08-24-2011, 11:51 AM
And at this practice there is like 6 doctors, ive seen 4 for different things over the past few year, pretty much all of them used google and wikipedia to get answers.
Now to be a GP you need a few years as a junior doctor. So 5 years degree plus at least 2-3 years as a junior doctor you should know the basics of this... Lol
08-24-2011, 12:09 PM
I know VERY few gp's who have any extensive experience in hormone replacement therapy. It's pretty common for her to not really understand testosterone levels all that well. That is why I recommended you see an endocrinologist instead. They will have a far better understanding.
08-24-2011, 12:17 PM
08-24-2011, 12:19 PM
08-24-2011, 12:28 PM
08-24-2011, 12:29 PM
08-24-2011, 12:41 PM
08-24-2011, 12:53 PM
08-24-2011, 12:55 PM
well, the amount of semen has little to nothing to do with testosterone levels, and not being able to have sex more than once generally more indicates a prolactin issues. Thats why seeing the specialist is important, just taking testosterone won't necessarily help your issues by itself.
08-24-2011, 01:07 PM
08-24-2011, 03:51 PM
Its alot more hormones involved. Also do us a favor if they put u on try ask the endorsed about using slin needles im curious for her his opinion to avoid scar tissue.
08-24-2011, 04:49 PM
08-24-2011, 04:57 PM
why are yall shocked a GP doesn't know about HRT? a GPs job is to check your ears for wax and write you prescriptions for lotrimin and tetracycline, not testosterone.
they aren't endos.
For me, the action IS the juice.
08-24-2011, 05:02 PM
08-24-2011, 05:04 PM
08-24-2011, 05:10 PM
08-24-2011, 06:03 PM
08-24-2011, 06:48 PM
But a GO doesn't treat "maybe it will go below normal". And those symptoms can be caused by all sorts of things, most of which are outside what a GP treatsOriginally Posted by jibba_128
08-25-2011, 06:07 AM
08-25-2011, 11:37 AM
08-25-2011, 02:44 PM
I overtrained so bad in my 20s Along with soy protein i developed a bit of gyno. Went back with less trainng and quitting the soy protein. Severe overtraining can lower test.
08-25-2011, 05:08 PM
08-26-2011, 05:32 AM
08-26-2011, 05:29 PM
08-26-2011, 05:36 PM
So....he's putting you on something that's going to suppress you to see if you bounce back? Sounds like a solid plan to me...
08-26-2011, 05:38 PM
And no further blood tests to find the real cause. You should wait to see a specialist.
08-26-2011, 07:09 PM
08-26-2011, 07:24 PM
No, it doesn't work that way. You'll suppress and change your values, and future blood tests will be meaningless
08-26-2011, 11:54 PM
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