Andro Mass/Andro Hard 8 Week Log

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  1. Andro Mass/Andro Hard 8 Week Log


    This will be my second cycle, and the first log i have ran on this forum.

    Some background info:
    5'7 167 pounds @ 10%
    Bench: 315 x 5
    Squat: 365 x 4
    Deadlift: 505 x 1

    Been lifting for 9 years now, very seriously for 4. Ran a cycle of protomax in the spring for my first cycle, pretty disappointing results until i got to 125 mg. My usual lifting scheme is geared toward hypertrophy with some heavy sets added in because i have a big ego. usually lift every other day to give my body adequate rest but may go 2 on 1 off once the products kick in if i feel like i am recovering fast enough.

    Wanted to first start out by thanking primordial performance for this semi-sponsored log (i bought some product and they provided me with the rest)

    This log will be starting on Saturday July 30.

    Goals of the cycle will be to add lean mass, some strength and size while not adding fat. Shooting for 8-10 solid pounds over the 8 week period.

    Layout:
    3 am/3 ah in the morning/preworkout and 3 am/ah late afternoon
    will run creatine throughout the cycle and pct

    pct will be:
    nolva 20/20/10/10/10
    Pct Revolution: starting during week 3
    DAA: starting 1 week before cycle ends and running through the 3rd week of pct.

    Will make posts on each lifting day. Posts will include details about the workout, meals for the day and anything else of interest. I will post on off days if there is something useful to mention.

    Will be posting before and after pictures as well. May post pics midway through the cycle too. Blood work will come post pct.

    Let me know if you have any questions, comments or criticisms.


  2. That is a damn impressive DL. Subbed along.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys

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  3. I agree with Rodja. That's a damn impressive Deadlift.... Looking to see some mean results!
    RecoverBro ELITE

  4. I have almost 50lb on the guy and he pulls 30lbs more than I do. I iz jealouz.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  5. I strained my ac joint last time i pulled that much so dont be too jealous lol I will be being somewhat cautious with the deads though. This should be a fine time though, cant wait to get it started

  6. I can't wait to see what AM does for you.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  7. Me either bro, only a few more days

  8. Quote Originally Posted by darsh89 View Post
    Me either bro, only a few more days
    As a heads up, our Androhard ETA has been pushed back a few days... I'm hoping we got you a bottle though before, maybe a secret stash for loggers.
    BODY PERFORMANCE SOLUTIONS REP
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  9. This will be starting soon August 5th Androhard is in stock!!
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  10. And once it arrives beast mode will officially be engaged
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  11. Some pretty impressive lifts there, for you're size.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by catty66 View Post
    Some pretty impressive lifts there, for you're size.
    Appreciate it boss

  13. Today, I promise!!!
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  14. So the bottles arrived yesterday just in time for a workout! Thanks Primordial for hooking me up with expidited shipping.

    Day 1:
    Today was day 1 of andromass and androhard. 3 caps of each at 330 PM pre workout and then 3 of each at 9 PM with dinner. Initially I felt a mild burning in my throat for about 10 minutes then it went away.
    This could be placebo, but about 30 minutes after taking both I felt this rush of energy, which is odd because I felt dead the whole morning before I took them. It was different than the normal pre-workout caffeine rush, it was much more focused and also happy. I also had a pulsing boner for like 30 minutes straight after taking the pills.
    Today was the first day back in the gym after a week off so normally I would have expected a somewhat slow start. That was not the case. Had a phenomenal workout; tons of energy and vascularity and a lot more strength then I would have expected, actually set a PR which I would not have expected since normally I am a little slow during that first workout after a short lay off. Although I was strong and vascular, pumps were only about average, nothing too special there yet, its only the first day though.

    Weight: 166.8
    Warm up: 5 mins jogging + shoulder pre-habs

    Workout:
    Flat Dumbbell Flyes: 15's x 20, 30's x 15, 40's x 12, *55's x 8* *PR*
    Decline Barbell Bench: 135 x 5, 225 x 3, 275 x 5, 295 x 5, 260 x 6, 225 x 10, 135 x 21
    Slow Complete Pause Close Grip Bench: 135 x 7, 6, 7
    Flat Dumbbell Bench: 70 x 8, 70 x 7, 50 x 12 (rest 5 seconds then 5 more reps), 50 x 12 (rest 5 seconds then 5 more reps)
    Cable Flye super set with grip pushups: 40's x 15 + 8 pushups, 40's x 15 +
    9 pushups, 40's x 17, + 7 pushups
    Wide pushups: 11
    Sphinx pushups: 5
    Diamond pushups: 9
    V Pushdowns: 105 x 15, 135 x 8, 105 x 15
    2 dumbbell overhead tricep extension: 25's x 8, 10, 9
    skullcrusher: 65 x 7, 8, 7
    Pushup bounce burnout (do 1 pushup, return to the bottom portion of the rep and bounce slowly 10 times then push back up to the top portion of the rep, that is 1, repeat as many times as possible): 4

    Calves/Abs burnout
    Stretch 10 minutes

    Overall thoughts: today is the first day so i want to tell myself that PR is placebo, but i honestly felt great in the gym today. Looking forward to this continuing.

  15. Get big son!
    Always willing to learn :D

  16. Quote Originally Posted by BigRigg View Post
    Get big son!
    GET BIG!
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  17. Day 3:
    Today is day 3 of the cycle and my second workout of the cycle. I have not felt the huge energy rush after taking the pills like I did the first day, but I am starting to feel very pumped and vascular throughout the day. I have also noticed I seem to be sleeping better, although I am not sure if this is related to the cycle.

    Today's workout was solid. I did not have a ton of energy, yet I had e****lent strength, set 1 PR. About midway through the workout I caught a second wind and felt huge the rest of the day. As I sit here typing this 6 hours post workout I still have so much of a pump in my biceps that if i flex my arm it gets so tight it almost hurts (in a good way). One thing to note about my workouts is that they are quite different than most. I do quite a bit of volume and i do some very heavy moves and some hypertorphy moves. I also incorporate time under tension sets where the entire point of the lift is to get a rediculous pump and increase muscle hypertrophy, on these sets I will use lighter weight and go much slower through the rep range, often pausing at the top and bottom of the rep ranges and flexing the muscles I am working.

    Weight: 167.8 (+1.00)
    Warm up: rear delt and shoulder pre-habs

    Lower back extension: 12 reps, 15 reps
    Pull ups (unweighted): 15, 11, 8, 8
    Deadlifts: 135 x 12 rest 5 seconds then 6 more reps, 135 x 12 rest 5 seconds then 7 more reps, 225 x 6, 315 x 6
    Plate pinch dead lifts (grip the plates with a super wide grip instead of the bar): PR *95 x 5*
    Kroc Rows: 135 x 8, 135 x 9, 95 x 12
    Inverted Rows: 13 reps, 11 reps, 10 reps
    Reverse grip rows: 135 x 10, 11, 9
    Dumbbell middle back rows lying on incilne bench superset with reverse flyes: 40's/10's x 8/10, 7/8, 9/11
    1 arm db row: 60's x 7, 8
    seated cable row: 225 x 8, 7
    reverse grip pulldown superset with straight arm pulldown: 120/45 x 8/9, 9/10
    1 arm pulldowns: 105 x 8, *120 x 9* PR
    hammer curls: 20's x 12, 12
    wide grip barbell curls: 45 x 12, 10
    incline dumbell curls: 20's x 9, 10
    reverse grip barbell curl: 45 x 10, 8
    narrow to wide half curls: 45 x 14 + 7
    wrist curls: 45 x 21
    reverse wrist curls: 45 x 22
    dumbbell twist wrist curls: 30's x 25

    calves/abs
    20 mins interval incline cardio

    Today's macro's: 355 carbs, 315 protein, 70 fat = 3310 cals (300 above maintenance with cardio)

  18. Wow 3300 slightly above? Wish mine was that high...mines close to 2000 and my stats are virtually the same, except 1" taller
    Goodluck on AM! Strength gets nice after about a week+

  19. Quote Originally Posted by bigbob21 View Post
    Wow 3300 slightly above? Wish mine was that high...mines close to 2000 and my stats are virtually the same, except 1" taller
    Goodluck on AM! Strength gets nice after about a week+
    bear in mind i burn 400-500 cals while working out and another 300 during the interval cardio so maintenace on an off day would be 2450

  20. Damn Darsh, thats nearly a 1000k a workout. How many times do you workout like that a week?
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  21. 3 at most, and its def not every week, i push it over the top some weeks when i really feel great and just want to give my muscles a blast and other weeks ill keep it much more condensed

  22. Quote Originally Posted by darsh89 View Post
    bear in mind i burn 400-500 cals while working out and another 300 during the interval cardio so maintenace on an off day would be 2450
    That session burned off way more than 400-500 kcals.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  23. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    That session burned off way more than 400-500 kcals.
    you are correct, when i was referrring to the 400-500 cals i meant my normal average workout would burn that much, the workout that day was probably closer to 800-1000 cals. If I have longer workouts I bring 30-50 carbs and about 20 grams of protein in a shake and drink it intra workout and ill usually add a snack or 2 in at some point in the day when i feel hungry so overall macro's balance out

  24. Quote Originally Posted by darsh89 View Post
    you are correct, when i was referrring to the 400-500 cals i meant my normal average workout would burn that much, the workout that day was probably closer to 800-1000 cals. If I have longer workouts I bring 30-50 carbs and about 20 grams of protein in a shake and drink it intra workout and ill usually add a snack or 2 in at some point in the day when i feel hungry so overall macro's balance out
    Ah, gotcha.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  25. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Ah, gotcha.
    dont worry im not some over training freak asking for an injury, i just like to shock the muscles once in awhile when im feeling good

  26. I lift the same way. Some weeks its 6 days out of 7 at 90% for 1.5hrs a time. Other weeks its day on day off... just depends on how the ligaments, tendons, joints, etc are feeling. I can totally related. Sometimes you just KILL IT in the gym.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Sklander View Post
    I lift the same way. Some weeks its 6 days out of 7 at 90% for 1.5hrs a time. Other weeks its day on day off... just depends on how the ligaments, tendons, joints, etc are feeling. I can totally related. Sometimes you just KILL IT in the gym.
    I hear ya man, it doesnt happen often that you just feel just absolutely phenomenal but when you do why not take full advantage of it ya know

  28. Quote Originally Posted by darsh89 View Post
    I hear ya man, it doesnt happen often that you just feel just absolutely phenomenal but when you do why not take full advantage of it ya know
    I take advantage of this often as the older I get the less I feel phenomenal


  29. I've found that assistance lifts don't effect my CNS, so I never deload them. The big lift, though, is always subject to change.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  30. All this talk reminds me of Randy Couture. I definatly feel my threshold for over doin it has dimished more than id like to admit.

    Btw just reminding everyone that our buy one get one free sale on the Androseries is still goin on.
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