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    ANDROMASS....I DONT KNOW ?


    i see there is a new product out called andro mass..this stuff cost $200.. wtf !!! i have never used it and dont even really care to see if its any good so i no i shouldnt post my opinion on it but im going to anyways... they claim that 6 caps of this stuff equals 428mgs of test e... really. injectable test e cycles are 500mgs a week for 10-12 weeks to get really good gains..which means you would have to take 500 capsules of andromass to equal an injectable test e cycle..do the math that would cost like $1800 ..theres no way in hell this stuff will give you the same results as an injectable test e cycle. 4 weeks isnt enough time to get good results from test e..thats why cycles are 10-12 weeks..

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    I have not used any of the Andro series either but I'll throw in my two cents as well. PP has a fairly good reputation for making products that actually work so I don't doubt that this stuff is legit. But the Uncle Sam has been looking for an excuse to make DHEA a controlled substance for years. Anti-aging supporters, like me, have thus far been able to fend off Uncle Sam based on the fact that DHEA does not dramatically affect testosterone levels significantly enough to warrant concern. However, now that we have proven that we can make effective ph's out of DHEA derivatives, the feds will have all the ammo they need to get their way. PP had a decent line of products prior to the Andro series. I think they should have left well enough alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no reason View Post
    i see there is a new product out called andro mass..this stuff cost $200.. wtf !!! i have never used it and dont even really care to see if its any good so i no i shouldnt post my opinion on it but im going to anyways... they claim that 6 caps of this stuff equals 428mgs of test e... really. injectable test e cycles are 500mgs ed for 10-12 weeks to get really good gains..which means you would have to take 500 capsules of andromass to equal an injectable test e cycle..do the math that would cost like $1800 ..theres no way in hell this stuff will give you the same results as an injectable test e cycle. 4 weeks isnt enough time to get good results from test e..thats why cycles are 10-12 weeks..
    You're also mixing up some things:
    1. The ester is AM is for absorption
    2. It is not a time-released, depot-style product
    3. Unlike an injectable Enanthate ester, this kicks in within a week.
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    i agree that pp is reputable maybe for ph's..but to comparing it to doing test e..not a chance. if your looking to buy something that you take orally that will give you the same results as doing an injectable test e cycle..keep dreaming..real AAS is the only way to go if you want better gains you can keep.. bottom line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    You're also mixing up some things:
    1. The ester is AM is for absorption
    2. It is not a time-released, depot-style product
    3. Unlike an injectable Enanthate ester, this kicks in within a week.

    i just dont think one bottle of this stuff will be sufficient..and at $200 a bottle..yikes !!!
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    well..all i can say is it would be awesome if someone does come out with a legit oral only cycle that will be just as good and equivelant to doing a real aas cycle... maybe one day.
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    I grabbed Androlean for 50 bux today, shame I cannot run it for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bashman View Post
    I grabbed Androlean for 50 bux today, shame I cannot run it for a while.
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    If I can get some, I'm gonna run 8 weeks of it.

    I ran androhard and lean already, and they were decent.
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    Really? A Test E cycle is 500mg ED??? it is 500mg a WEEK, redo your math.
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    oops i meant a week..sorry.. been posting to peeps about using aromasin ed while on cycle got used to typing ed after it.. yes 500mgs a week !!! thanks for spotting that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no reason View Post
    well..all i can say is it would be awesome if someone does come out with a legit oral only cycle that will be just as good and equivelant to doing a real aas cycle... maybe one day.
    This doesn't make any sense. I think what you mean is an oral-only cycle that will be as effective as an injectable AAS cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    This doesn't make any sense. I think what you mean is an oral-only cycle that will be as effective as an injectable AAS cycle.

    yes.
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    i know you primordial guys are gonna be all over me.. to be fair only time will tell i guess..hope it turns out to be an awesome product.
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    I think it's just the price that's the issue with everyone. When is the last time you saw a OTC PH/DS for $160+

    I mean you could buy a nice amount of gear for that kind of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bashman View Post
    I think it's just the price that's the issue with everyone. When is the last time you saw a OTC PH/DS for $160+

    I mean you could buy a nice amount of gear for that kind of money.
    Agreed, for that kind of money I am just buying gear that I KNOW will work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bashman View Post
    I think it's just the price that's the issue with everyone. When is the last time you saw a OTC PH/DS for $160+

    I mean you could buy a nice amount of gear for that kind of money.
    lol yup. You can run test at like 500mg for 10 weeks for around that much or even less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no reason View Post
    i know you primordial guys are gonna be all over me.. to be fair only time will tell i guess..hope it turns out to be an awesome product.
    Nah we don't mind, we introduced these a while back and have answered similar questions to yours extensively. AndroMass logs have just got under way so soon we will have more feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by princeshock View Post
    lol yup. You can run test at like 500mg for 10 weeks for around that much or even less.
    Then by all means do so

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    Its gotta be good, I mean come on they were "2 months behind schedule" and "$300,000 over budget" who can have a doubt that it works so good after that?!
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    The price is definitely the issue. If you need a discount, let me know. Or any other rep for that matter.

    In terms of comparing this to 400-500mg of Test E... well, test is not legal, requires most likely western union usage/fees, along with alcohol wipes, syringes/needles, etc.

    We're not convincing people to NOT use injectable test. But for those who want a legal alternative, well, here we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by princeshock View Post
    lol yup. You can run test at like 500mg for 10 weeks for around that much or even less.

    agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GetHyooge View Post
    Agreed, for that kind of money I am just buying gear that I KNOW will work.
    also agreed.
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    so 6 soft gels equal 428 mgs of test..and you have to take 6 caps a day ? how does that equal to being 428mgs of test e a week.. or is it 42 caps a week will equal 428mg of test e a week ? how do you dose this stuff and how much caps do you take for it to equal 428mgs of test e a week?? enlighten me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by no reason View Post
    so 6 soft gels equal 428 mgs of test..and you have to take 6 caps a day ? how does that equal to being 428mgs of test e a week.. or is it 42 caps a week will equal 428mg of test e a week ? how do you dose this stuff and how much caps do you take for it to equal 428mgs of test e a week?? enlighten me...
    it's pretty cut and dry on the primordial website...
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpee View Post
    it's pretty cut and dry on the primordial website...
    ^^^Again all of this has been extensively discussed.

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    The feedback so far is indicating that Andromass is off to a good start and will most likely be another success for Primordial Performance. Its pretty much par for the course when it comes to Pp.

    As for those that would still pin than choose this alternative, thats goin to happen, aas have been around forever. The other alternative ( phs ) works for many as well though and has made its place regardless if aas users refuse to crossover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by no reason View Post
    so 6 soft gels equal 428 mgs of test..and you have to take 6 caps a day ? how does that equal to being 428mgs of test e a week.. or is it 42 caps a week will equal 428mg of test e a week ? how do you dose this stuff and how much caps do you take for it to equal 428mgs of test e a week?? enlighten me...
    Ah this old song and dance... Your late man, this question has been done so many times us reps can count on em to pop up about once a week. If your serious about looking for answers id let us know or no one is goin to take you serious.
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    I agree with your statement about the use of AAS but most of us don't want to take the legal risk.
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    this stuff is new and some peeps are running solo logs about it..so i guess we will see..yes i am skeptical and i dont think it will give you the same gains as injecting test e even with taking 2 or 3 bottles. the price is too high for this stuff right now and will probably go down in price when it comes out that it wont give you the same gains and you will have to take a bunch of it to make some gains.. just hard to believe when i have done a test e cycle and gained 27lbs and kept 22lbs after pct. no oral ph's that i have taken or read about can do that .
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    Quote Originally Posted by no reason View Post
    this stuff is new and some peeps are running solo logs about it..so i guess we will see..yes i am skeptical and i dont think it will give you the same gains as injecting test e even with taking 2 or 3 bottles. the price is too high for this stuff right now and will probably go down in price when it comes out that it wont give you the same gains and you will have to take a bunch of it to make some gains.. just hard to believe when i have done a test e cycle and gained 27lbs and kept 22lbs after pct. no oral ph's that i have taken or read about can do that .
    Price is tied to the cost of research/raws/ and innovation, not to us gouging customers. Hopefully it does come at some point, but it will not be due to AM being ineffective. In fact just look at the logs, gains are very impressive.

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    Lol pp reps are getting mad at the skeptics, then run away once everyone realizes it doesn't work
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    if it could possibly put on 10-15 lbs and make it easier to keep the gains then yes it would be great ..but for the price..i dont know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zachmanman View Post
    Lol pp reps are getting mad at the skeptics, then run away once everyone realizes it doesn't work
    Can I borrow your time machine?
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    The thing is most of the loggers are not noticing major yet. THeres the one guy over at the pp website forums going into week 3 saying its kicking in, hes just starting to get noticable effects but nothing insane yet. So if the awesome stuff comes in week 3 and your running it for 4 weeks....that means you only get about 2 weeks worth of hormonized effects and then your done, its gone.
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    thats what im saying..your probably gonna need 3 bottles of this stuff to get some gains 4 weeks isnt enough time for your body to acclimate to what you are taking and it still wont be like real test e cycle gains.. too much money you will have to spend just to be disappointed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GetHyooge View Post
    Its gotta be good, I mean come on they were "2 months behind schedule" and "$300,000 over budget" who can have a doubt that it works so good after that?!
    lol i always wondered about the marketing behind that..i mean yeah it maybe true, but why are you gonna run and tell the customers you ran way over budget..gotta make that money back somehow.. and at 200 a pop, you gotta wonder if its just THAT good, or someones in the hole..

    non the less, im interested to see how the logs turn out. if prices drop significantly i may just give this a shot next cycle..till then ill stick to SD..
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    I really like their products and I buy them all the time. But like everyone is saying here 200 for an unproven product is a lot to ask your customer base to bite on.

    And the one thing I cannot get my head around if this product is so crazy, why wouldn't you have any of your own guys, in house testers, or super loyal customers do a beta run of this stuff before hand so you can come out with your advertising with before and afters and blood work.

    And there really ain't any solo logs making any noise on mass or hard. Trust me I'm reading them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terencec View Post
    I really like their products and I buy them all the time. But like everyone is saying here 200 for an unproven product is a lot to ask your customer base to bite on.

    And the one thing I cannot get my head around if this product is so crazy, why wouldn't you have any of your own guys, in house testers, or super loyal customers do a beta run of this stuff before hand so you can come out with your advertising with before and afters and blood work.

    And there really ain't any solo logs making any noise on mass or hard. Trust me I'm reading them all.
    there are some impressive AndroMass logs on the primordial site.
  

  
 

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