I weigh 175lbs and was curious how much anavar and andriol I should take if I'm stacking them..
:blink:why would this be a joke? and being as this would be my first cycle away from ph's this is what I chose.. i've read that stacking the two are good.. only prob with anavar was that it's expensive.. that's no prob.. and andriol had very low bioavailability.. which is why i chose the both of them together..
Ok, let me retract that statement. what your talking about is a waste of time and money IMO. This subject has come up dozens if not more times and you would have had your answer if you had done a search.sigh.. why can't i just get a straight answer.. just cuz i don't want to inject i'll never get a straight answer..
I'm sorry to sound like an a$$, but it's really funny.I have done searches but I don't have access to dbol or fina
I notice you put nolva ED for both of those cycles.. should I be doing the same with anavar/andriol?
Var is a dry compound but andriol isn't...it's basically just test man, with all the characteristics and sides of test, just delivered lymphatically. If you're prone to gyno from test, then use nolva @ 10mg ED or 20mg EOD. But in your case you have no idea how you react to test cuz YOU'RE NOT USING IT!!!...lol... :hammer: Use test man, you're dick will thank you.. :drunk:
I honestly don't know why anyone would ever wanna use andriol. I think that it's even shittier than M-Test...for various other reasons....but hey, whatever floats your boat...
You are wrong. Oxandrin is available with a prescription.I'm sorry to sound like an a$$, but it's really funny.
You can get anavar, which is illegal to purchase in any form.
I've read that trying to have a consistent level of test is damn near impossible though. Not only do the levels differ from person to person, but they differ from day to day. talk about side effects....my face would become one huge zit...Andriol is testosterone undecanoate. It works as I know people who have used it, but you need to take alot of them. It is also used for HRT.
Andriol (testosterone undecanoate capsules) is prescribed to you by a doctor. It is an orally active testosterone preparation and is used to replace the natural hormone, testosterone, when your body is unable to produce enough on its own.
Each capsule contains 40 mg of testosterone undecanoate in dissolved form. A single Andriol capsule is a soft oval gelatin capsule, orange in color, with a yellow oily fill and marked D3V on the outside. Andriol Testocaps is a novel formulation that allows storage at room temperature for three years. Andriol 40 mg can be prescribed in bottles of 60 or 100 capsules. Andriol Testocaps are available in blister-pack form. With adequate dosing Andriol and Andriol Testocaps restore plasma testosterone levels within the normal range. For optimal absorption, Andriol and Andriol Testocaps must be taken with food.
Unfortunately, this does appear to be true, but that does not mean that andriol does not work.I've read that trying to have a consistent level of test is damn near impossible though. Not only do the levels differ from person to person, but they differ from day to day.
My bad Size.You are wrong. Oxandrin is available with a prescription.
I misunderstood.I meant var is illegal, unless you got Rx,
while one can get fina with no docs whatsoever.
Must be all that seal bouncing getting to your head:run:I misunderstood.
well I've done 1-T/4AD and M1T/4AD both of which I didn't get gyno from.. so I guess i'm not prone to it..Var is a dry compound but andriol isn't...it's basically just test man, with all the characteristics and sides of test, just delivered lymphatically. If you're prone to gyno from test, then use nolva @ 10mg ED or 20mg EOD. But in your case you have no idea how you react to test cuz YOU'RE NOT USING IT!!!...lol... :hammer: Use test man, you're dick will thank you.. :drunk:
I honestly don't know why anyone would ever wanna use andriol. I think that it's even shittier than M-Test...for various other reasons....but hey, whatever floats your boat...
If you have internet acess you can buy fina legally. go to google and type finaplex h. There are a dozen places willing to sell it to you by the cart, you might as well by the box considering how many pellets you have to eat (630 pellets over 6 weeks). And everone can find dbol if you look around enough. If you absoultely can find it then you can try the prohormones to keep the boys happy.Thanks for the responses guys.. I don't mean to sound like an ass it's just I was expecting to get answers like "pin it or forget it"
Skye, I have done searches but I don't have access to dbol or fina
what do you mean no cheating aloud? and the main reason I stayed away from dbol was because I heard the gains were impossible to keep..
I notice you put nolva ED for both of those cycles.. should I be doing the same with anavar/andriol?
yup, you eat them. but again this a waste of money IMO. You have to use 4 times as much and it still doesn't work as good sence the digestion strips the ester. 4ad can be used to fight the fina dick but it is a poor cousin to test or dbolWith the oral fina, do you just take swallow the pellets themselves without any alterations to them at all? Luckily, I live on a farm, so it would not be hard to come by. If stacked with a transdermal 4ad would that fight off the "fina dick" if test is not available?
Guys, he was not asking if this was a good cycle. Stop over analyzing and just answer his f'n question. Andriol is not really an 'oral' at least in a methylated way. It's just test and most agree that a test/var stack works well. It didn't for me, but my var dose was low. People learn better when they stop judging other's choices and just take life as it comes. It's not a perfect world, and for whatever reason, people do oral only cycles. Who cares if they are undisciplined, that's not the issue, the question was how much on the dose. I'm guessing at least 20mg var and 160 andriol for the weight. Also, tamox might be cheap, but it's not as safe as people think. Letro on cycle is the ****. Tamoxifen is a PCT option.I weigh 175lbs and was curious how much anavar and andriol I should take if I'm stacking them..
35mg of anavar should be enough. However you do not want to reduce the dosage level of a product simply b/c you are stacking. You want to use a dosage level that is effective for a particular drug.well i got some equation somewhere that said i should take 35mg's of var and i heard i should be taking quite a bit of andriol.. but if i'm stacking the two i thought i should be taking less.. that's why i was asking on here...
Guys, he was not asking if this was a good cycle. Stop over analyzing and just answer his f'n question. Andriol is not really an 'oral' at least in a methylated way. It's just test and most agree that a test/var stack works well. It didn't for me, but my var dose was low.
You know I could have sworn that this board was about sharing knowledge and give and receiving the best advice possible. Granted my assumption that someone was being a wise ass was not cool I would feel somewhat negligent not to point out better options to someone that was doing that if not bad was still a waste of money. If the drug companies did not fix the cost of anavar it would cost no more then any other oral. Andriol is also expensive for what it is and does and while it does work for HRT it has not proven itself well for our purposes. And oral only cycles have proven themselves second rate. Not only that but if we stop questioning and “over analyzing� and just answer questions how long do you think it will be before we get flooded with 15year olds?Guys, he was not asking if this was a good cycle. Stop over analyzing and just answer his f'n question. Andriol is not really an 'oral' at least in a methylated way. It's just test and most agree that a test/var stack works well. It didn't for me, but my var dose was low. People learn better when they stop judging other's choices and just take life as it comes. It's not a perfect world, and for whatever reason, people do oral only cycles. Who cares if they are undisciplined, that's not the issue, the question was how much on the dose. I'm guessing at least 20mg var and 160 andriol for the weight. Also, tamox might be cheap, but it's not as safe as people think. Letro on cycle is the ****. Tamoxifen is a PCT option.
Points well taken. You always seem to give good advise, so it wasn't an attack. I guess I'm just more literal in my thought process. It didn't even occur to me that he was being a smart ass, but I see why you responded that way now. These products are way overpriced, but I assumed that he already had them on-hand and just needed dose advise. In which case, who cases how much it costs cause they're already paid for, ya know? So please forgive my ranting.You know I could have sworn that this board was about sharing knowledge and give and receiving the best advice possible. Granted my assumption that someone was being a wise ass was not cool I would feel somewhat negligent not to point out better options to someone that was doing that if not bad was still a waste of money. If the drug companies did not fix the cost of anavar it would cost no more then any other oral. Andriol is also expensive for what it is and does and while it does work for HRT it has not proven itself well for our purposes. And oral only cycles have proven themselves second rate. Not only that but if we stop questioning and “over analyzing� and just answer questions how long do you think it will be before we get flooded with 15year olds?
I do have to admit that the biggest problems from dbol only cycles are obviously altered expectations considering water weight, estrogen conversion and all things associated with it. With letro, dex, and/or nolva along with proper PCT we can eliminate many of the old thoughts on dbol only cycles....even though I still don't like them :hammer:The belief that you lose all your gains from dbol is an old school verse modern methods things. The muscle you gain while on dbol is the same as the muscle you gain on test, you nether lose or keep it any easier. Dbol has a high converson rate and this so tends to cause a lot of estrogen metagated gains (mostly water retention). Consider that you can easily hold 2 gallons of water (around 18lb) the 30lb you gained in 6 weeks turns into 12lb gain after your off the dbol for a week. And of course everone is looking at the 18lb you lost, not that you gained 2lb a week in real muscle (not bad for an oral only)
If you run dbol as stated above with the ldex (or any other good AI) you will avoid the problem to start with as you will not bloat up. the scale want lie and you won't be disapointed with a massive wieght drop at the end of your cycle. Nolvadex should be ran with almost any cycle as a percautionary mesure. Its cheap, safe, and is the only drug knowen to cure and reverse (if caught early) gyno.
Still too little with the andriol. When you take in account the ester weight and the effectiveness of andriol, you need more. Think about, 160mg is sometimes recommended for HRT.With that said I would also try 35-40mg var and 160-200mg andriol, as said above
Well in all honesty you had a good point there as well. Even if some is going to something that not good (taking roids at 18 for instance) for them it is still far better for them to have all the info to do it corectly then then to be told its dumb and not to do it when there going to do it anyway. And I am sorry if I mistook your post bro.Points well taken. You always seem to give good advise, so it wasn't an attack. I guess I'm just more literal in my thought process. It didn't even occur to me that he was being a smart ass, but I see why you responded that way now. These products are way overpriced, but I assumed that he already had them on-hand and just needed dose advise. In which case, who cases how much it costs cause they're already paid for, ya know? So please forgive my ranting.
No prob bro. I feel like you do.Well in all honesty you had a good point there as well. Even if some is going to something that not good (taking roids at 18 for instance) for them it is still far better for them to have all the info to do it corectly then then to be told its dumb and not to do it when there going to do it anyway. And I am sorry if I mistook your post bro.
Andriol are 40mg gelcaps so I am not sure how you plan on taking 175mg. Ideally, you would want to take the andriol for a longer period and at a higher dosage. I do not think you have a sufficient amount. At 160mg, you are getting the high end of HRT dosage. To me, this defeats the purpose of using it.I did! thank you guys =)
how long can i let this run.. before i think i made an estimate that the var will last me about 8 weeks at 35mg and i can run andriol at 175mg for 4 weeks.. but if it's necessary to take more than 175 will it be ok to run it less than 4 weeks?
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