AndroMass???

[MattPorter]

seriously, that's like 5 bottles of m-drol.

It was originally claimed to be like Sdrol gains with minimal sides. That was the INITIAL version which included hormones that COULD not be synthesized up to standards. NOW the new formula is good, but it really cannot be compared to Sdrol.....and I personally wouldnt want something to make me FEEL like SDROL does, sur ethe gains are nice but at what cost?

The updated formula would similar to something like a nice old school Avant labs 1-aderm and 4-aderm cycle or a MAG-10 cycle....miles safer than current methyls yet delivered great weight gain and results.

[soontobbeast]

everyone talks about the liver toxicity of SD.

what about the extreme negative impact on lipids? ( which is THE paramount side effect to be concerned about) how does andromass compare?

[T50]

everyone talks about the liver toxicity of SD.

what about the extreme negative impact on lipids? ( which is THE paramount side effect to be concerned about) how does andromass compare?

Word, I would like to know also. The more i think, the more I feel like this is what people should be concerned about rather than worrying about the liver.

Eit: wow wtf happened to this post at first.

[jbryand101b]

Anybody had any experience with this?Would i need a SERM for PCT?

this is the dumbest question i've seen in a while.

[jbryand101b]

AndroMass



Super-1-DHEA™



(3b-enanthoxyandrost-1-en-17-one)

150mg*

Super-4-DHEA™



(3b-enanthoxyandrost-4-en-17-one)

150mg*

Liqua-Vade Hormone Transport Complex™

2961mg*


What exactly is this?

I spoke too soon.

[bakerderek0]

this is the dumbest question i've seen in a while.

Dumber than this? > Just a Thought Here

[TulsaTalons]

I spoke too soon.

facepalm smiley! thats awesome bro!

[ryansm]

everyone talks about the liver toxicity of SD.

what about the extreme negative impact on lipids? ( which is THE paramount side effect to be concerned about) how does andromass compare?

I agree and it never seems to get across

As far as your question it would be comparable to how test and 1-test effect lipids.

[MNripped]

Maybe you guys should test it in humans before claiming it's as strong as the strongest available hormone

^this

[BigBlackGuy]

everyone talks about the liver toxicity of SD.

what about the extreme negative impact on lipids? ( which is THE paramount side effect to be concerned about) how does andromass compare?

I read this as libido at first and thought "Damn yah! What ABOUT our libidio?!"... then I double checked

[soontobbeast]

I agree and it never seems to get across

As far as your question it would be comparable to how test and 1-test effect lipids.

i think another point doesnt come across : test is low in sides but low in results ( short term).

SD is high in sides, high in results.


the trend is, if something is potent, it is potent - for good, and for bad.


what i want to know is, why are we waiting for logs to know effectiveness? you would assume that if PP is touting andromass as the new SD without the sides, wheres the bloodwork or the beta logs to back up the claims? what right do they have to suggest such things?


i could be completely off base, however. Maybe PP DOES have said bloodwork/logs from beta testers . but i dont think they announced it, did they?

[jbryand101b]

Dumber than this? > Just a Thought Here

that has to be a joke. oh man.

[jbryand101b]

i think another point doesnt come across : test is low in sides but low in results ( short term).

SD is high in sides, high in results.


the trend is, if something is potent, it is potent - for good, and for bad.


what i want to know is, why are we waiting for logs to know effectiveness? you would assume that if PP is touting andromass as the new SD without the sides, wheres the bloodwork or the beta logs to back up the claims? what right do they have to suggest such things?


i could be completely off base, however. Maybe PP DOES have said bloodwork/logs from beta testers . but i dont think they announced it, did they?

no, they dont. no one has used it yet, not even eric.

all of the numbers tossed out, and claims made are based off of calculations from numerous studies using similar compounds (dhea, 1-dhea, 4-dhea, 4-andro-diol, 1-androdiol, ethergels, ect).

im sure with the right dosage these will be good. im presuming that andromass would require 2 bottles for a solo 4 week cycle to get great gains.

1 bottle would be enough in my opinion as a base to something much stronger, like methyldrostanolone (sd)

like, 5-6 caps e/d of andro mass, & 20mg of superdrol e/d.

that im sure would be a great cycle, well, that is, if andromass was cheaper.

[rulk22]

One bottle of Andromass will last 4 weeks. For me id like to run this for at least 8 weeks with hcg. We stopped comparing the estimated gains to sd as the product changed and should now be compared to the old school 1test and 4ad, but with superior delivery. I remember what it was like to run old school 1test so if its anywhere near that im pretty confident in the estimations being made.

[Maxwell600]

Andro mass + Andro hard = test500. Or it seems to be that. And thats at 4 pills a day each, for 6 weeks. $400 will ancillaries. Rough but I hope it does well. $500 if I include ostarine in pct.

[MattPorter]

Andro mass + Andro hard = test500. Or it seems to be that. And thats at 4 pills a day each, for 6 weeks. $400 will ancillaries. Rough but I hope it does well. $500 if I include ostarine in pct.

As in 500mg of test per ml ? Wow that sounds painful, but I may think this proposed stack of HARD + MASS would be similar to a testosterone/proviron cycle at a very conservative dose. I hate comparing to steroids but it seems feasible. Maybe like an old school transdermal 4derm/1derm w/a m5aa product (without the 17alpha alkalation)

[jbryand101b]

one bottle of any 1-androstenediol or 4-androstenediol product will last 4 weeks. but it isn't enough for experienced users, 2 will be a minimum.

I dont see this being any different. but thats just my opinion.

one bottle of the old diol's were twice the dosage of these, and users required an extra 1 or 2 bottles for a good cycle.

you have better absorbtion, so maybe instead of 800mg of 4-androstenediol, you'll only need 400mg of the super 4-dhea.

and instead of 600mg of 1-androstenediol, you'll only need 300mg of super 1-dhea.

i dont think one bottle supplies 400mg of 4-dhea & 300 mg of 1-dhea.

but im just speculating and basing this off of real world experience & the estimates pp has given us.

[ryansm]

As in 500mg of test per ml ? Wow that sounds painful, but I may think this proposed stack of HARD + MASS would be similar to a testosterone/proviron cycle at a very conservative dose. I hate comparing to steroids but it seems feasible. Maybe like an old school transdermal 4derm/1derm w/a m5aa product (without the 17alpha alkalation)

I think it's more comparable to the latter...

[TheMeatus101]

this is the dumbest question i've seen in a while.

Dumb?You think ive never ran a SERM for PCT?or that i dont know that you should use a SERM?Umm,before you call peoples questions "dumb",maybe you should find out why they asked?I asked because some have told me a simple Test Stack would do as a PCT for AndroMass,others tell me i should use a SERM.THATS why i asked.

[TheMeatus101]

I spoke too soon.

Yes,i do have Search,as i hope you do.I have searched the ingredients but cant find anything on them,thats why i posted them here Chief.