Whats a good prohormone to take for a runner/ light lifter ?
- 02-12-2011, 04:54 PM
- 02-12-2011, 05:07 PM
orastan-e or orastan-a clone...you know who ben johnson is right?VO2 Max = 58.75mL/kg/min
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- 02-12-2011, 05:41 PM
02-12-2011, 05:44 PM
02-12-2011, 07:12 PM
the D-plex and the oraston-E but look pretty the d-plex is cheaper.
Which is better and which has the least sides ?
02-12-2011, 07:21 PM
sorry forgot to add the running type is some sprints and long 5 miles
02-12-2011, 09:10 PM
As for sprints or distance...many of the steroids increase RBC count so endurance typically just comes as you are able to provide greater amounts of oxygen to working muscle tissue.
On a side note - I think its funny that they stripped Johnson after testing positive, but then gave it to Lewis, who failed at least three drug tests the previous year lol.
02-12-2011, 10:13 PM
Epistane increases your cardiovascular capabilities, maybe even dramatically like in my case. Androlean would be a good choice as well, as Ryan pointed out.
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02-12-2011, 10:35 PM
stanozol thp ether (pstanz) or furazabol thp ether(furaza-a) would most likely be the best options here. it'd be easier to run a low dose with one or two bottles (2 for a 6 weeker).
dont expect to gain much if anything, but it'd be enough to preven catabolism and help with strength/power output.
I dont know about androlean, as no one has ever used it.
but prototype nutrition has 11-spray & 7-spray, these would also be a good choice.
I hope to be running a log of the two soon.
02-15-2011, 05:48 PM
wow think cant pick what to run.
Would it be better or ok to stack two of them ?
what would be the best cycle and pct ?"
02-15-2011, 06:03 PM
02-15-2011, 06:08 PM
02-15-2011, 06:19 PM
Tren,amazing strength gains with not that much added size,so if your looking for a more lean powerful body,go with Tren.
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02-15-2011, 06:51 PM
don't even touch tren, you won't be able to walk up the stairs without getting tired and sweating. it's great for strength but bad for any cardio. d plex is good because in low dowses dht can increase cardio and increase muscle exertion capabilities over long periods of stress.
02-15-2011, 07:03 PM
ok so its d plex or orastan clones. whats a good amount to run and for how long ?
I like d plex cause it cheaper but if the other is better ill run that.
Also whats the cheapest or best place to buy from ? can pm me
02-15-2011, 07:38 PM
02-15-2011, 08:18 PM
D plex will have some sides, its a meth PH so your still going to have issues at a low dose.
Transdermal Dermacrine would get my vote. 4 pumps a day, look at the thread where everyone is using it as a Test base for PH cycles. Its non meth, and shouldnt jack up for BP or anything like that. It will be the best choice if your worried about side effects.
02-15-2011, 08:39 PM
02-16-2011, 07:43 AM
02-16-2011, 07:53 AM
im looking for a place to buy everything i need in one shipment i dont want to have to go buying from diff places. but im willing to stack, i use to run test and tren back in the day but ive been off for the last 4 years but now not looking for size.
What would be the sides of low d plex dose ?
02-16-2011, 05:54 PM
sorry for the so many questions. I just want to be sure before i get back into it. i know everything has changed so im looking for the best ideas and advise. ?
02-16-2011, 05:59 PM
I just finished logging a dplex cycle on another board NO SIDES AT ALL went 5 weeks dosed it 75-75-100-100-100 just a little agressive for a bit lol and gained no weight at all and all major 1reps gained at least 15lbs decent compound would do it again 4 sure
02-16-2011, 08:32 PM
d plex is underrated, good compound and gives great aggression in the gym. It makes you want to get sh#t done.
02-19-2011, 06:44 PM
Just got my stuff hoping for a little less bf and a little more muscle. and alot more strength. trying for like 4 more reps per lift in the end and be able to run little faster.
Im hoping the running speeds up with the little bit less of the B/F while upping the muscle. well thanks guy for the advise.
Think i can do 50/75/75/75/75/75 ?
maybe up it to 100 ?
why does it say dont take 4 hours before bed time ?
02-20-2011, 07:40 PM
if you do go up to 100 i would wait till your last week or so, and if you take it to late it will keep you up all night
02-21-2011, 10:15 PM
02-21-2011, 10:17 PM
Our old dermacrine is probably as mild as they come and decent gains.
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02-22-2011, 12:58 PM
Maybye i'm wrong but i'v been told by a mate of mine thats on test 250 , he does not run as the test alone could give him a stroke? Is this true with ph? Just a thought
02-22-2011, 05:06 PM
02-22-2011, 05:40 PM
Oh ok i knew there was somthing of it. I guess real gear is more potent
09-23-2011, 01:41 PM
d-plex at 50mg is effective for stamina and some strength. Pct will be a breeze at 50mg for 6week cycle. Milk thistle and any quality ai/pct formula sold otc . Complete cycle will run you less than 60 bucks.
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