Poll: M5AA or M4ohn

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M5aa or m4ohn?

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  1. M5aa or m4ohn?


    Also which is better
    1. Strength
    2. Hardness
    3. Pumps
    4. Weight Loss
    5. Body Comp
    6. Sides


  2. Both :~)
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  3. i only voted m5aa because i haven't tried m4ohn.. i use m5aa as a workout booster..40mgs.. heard lots of good things about m4ohn tho.. i do want to give that a try soon

  4. M5aa could be very addictive for me..I gained strength, some size, and a lot of hardness and vascularity at 30mgs a day.Being a heavier androgen (mainly DHT), is a little scary though...I did not have any sides at all though.It kept me really agresive at the gym.Probably my favorite of all the Methyls, PHs.

    I like Mohn too, but I am not sure I would compare the 2

  5. btw, i said the jury was still out, and now it is in (with me) on both.

    they are both excellent. i especially like m40hn for its elegance, it's lean gains/ability to spare muscle during dieting, and it REALLY promotes hunger with me (not the greatest thing while dieting, but...)

    m5aa definitely puts you in the zone for workout and (for me) increases aggressiveness during workouts.

    kind of different compounds.

    i am going to try some 5aa cyp soon. interesting to compare to m5aa
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  6. is plain 5aa even comparable to m5aa ,,,becuz i read they converted into 2 different compounds?

  7. well, ANY methyl has different properties than the non-methylated compound.

    compare d-bol to its non-methylated counterpart. or methyltest to test, etc.

    however, based on anecdotal reports, 5-aa cyp has some of the same effects as m-5aa did with me, and they are both DHT related drugs

  8. Quote Originally Posted by jjjd
    compare d-bol to its non-methylated counterpart. or methyltest to test, etc.
    What IS dbol's non-methylated counterpart? It isn't manufactured/used is it?

  9. it's called equipoise

  10. equipose is not dbol
    two different compunds
    look it up

  11. no, but dbol is methylated eq

  12. yeah, look it up yourself Benderzzz. i said dbol is METHYLATED equipoise.

    read the thread. edumacate yourself.

  13. methylate yourself
    and report the results

  14. and then maybe you will convert into a human being
    keep us posted

  15. hey don't slag me for your lack of reading comprehension.

    whinny once for yes, twice for no. equipoise must be working

  16. i could be wrong but dbol is methandrostenolone while equipose is boldenone undecylenate .. so how is dbol a methylated equipose?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by cyberseano
    Why not take both.
    M4ohn /ed and M5AA hour before workouts?

    This is something I've been considering for my next cycle.

    Cutting cycle (6 weeks)

    16mgs of M4ohn /ed
    30mgs of M5aa pre workouts
    1 week in add TriMax (Pyramid)
    That's exactly what I'm gonna run, with the exception of the Trimax.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by propho
    i could be wrong but dbol is methandrostenolone while equipose is boldenone undecylenate .. so how is dbol a methylated equipose?
    Dbol is methyl-boldenone without the undecyclenate ester.

  19. what about using ephedrine with the m5aa and m4ohn? would that be dangerous because i know the methyl causes a raise in BP

  20. i've use ephedrine while on a methyl. I wasn't so much worried about my BP, but more so my prostate. I've used M-1t up to 50mg per day with not much of a problem in BP. I've been using M-1t again with ephedrine and I am showing all the signs of enlarged prostate. I will be discontinuing use of ephedrine as that has always given me problems

  21. Quote Originally Posted by cyberseano
    Why not take both.
    M4ohn /ed and M5AA hour before workouts?

    This is something I've been considering for my next cycle.

    Cutting cycle (6 weeks)

    16mgs of M4ohn /ed
    30mgs of M5aa pre workouts
    1 week in add TriMax (Pyramid)
    I'm considering the same thing, with a 2 on/ 2 off/ 2 on of Clen (and no Trimax).

    /karp

  22. From 1Fast (http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1200): "M4OHN is an active hormone, it does not require a conversion to a target hormone such as 4AD Cyp. It is a Nandrolone derivative however the 4-OH group added inhibits a conversion to DHT (dihydrotestosterone) or DHN (dihydronandrolone) making this a mildly androgenic and highly anabolic compound."

    Does anyone know if the inhibition of converting to DHT applies only to M4OHN or would it affect other compounds in your system at the time? If so then it would seem counterproductive to use M5AA with M4OHN.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by silverSurfer
    From 1Fast (http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1200): "M4OHN is an active hormone, it does not require a conversion to a target hormone such as 4AD Cyp. It is a Nandrolone derivative however the 4-OH group added inhibits a conversion to DHT (dihydrotestosterone) or DHN (dihydronandrolone) making this a mildly androgenic and highly anabolic compound."

    Does anyone know if the inhibition of converting to DHT applies only to M4OHN or would it affect other compounds in your system at the time? If so then it would seem counterproductive to use M5AA with M4OHN.
    The 4-OH group inhibits the conversion of the molecule that has it. Thus, it inhibits the conversion of M4OHN, not other compounds.

    /karp

  24. correct.

  25. i am going to try some 5aa cyp soon. interesting to compare to m5aa[/QUOTE]
    Are you going to pin it?
    BC

  26. Quote Originally Posted by fatty
    i've use ephedrine while on a methyl. I wasn't so much worried about my BP, but more so my prostate. I've used M-1t up to 50mg per day with not much of a problem in BP. I've been using M-1t again with ephedrine and I am showing all the signs of enlarged prostate. I will be discontinuing use of ephedrine as that has always given me problems
    What were your liver values at 50mg a day?!?!?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by fatty
    I've been using M-1t again with ephedrine and I am showing all the signs of enlarged prostate. I will be discontinuing use of ephedrine as that has always given me problems
    i'm having the same problem, but it started when i added the M1T as i always use ephedrine pre w/o. maybe the synergy makes it worse, but i know it's mainly M1T causing my enlarged prostate and it's associated problems.

  28. just so everyone doesnt go running M1T with ephedrine and/or synephrine - i had BP-related reaction to the simultaneous use of those compounds, and i still havent gotten my BP back to where it was. and i was only running 10mg/day.

    supersoldier is right of course, about dbol and equipoise. where do you think the "bol" in dbol comes from?

  29. I will be running these togehter sometime within the next couple of months, get back to you then!!

  30. Just a question but how do you know if you are having prostate problems?

    Thanks
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