M5aa or m4ohn?
- 06-14-2004, 10:32 PM
- 06-14-2004, 10:39 PM
06-14-2004, 10:46 PM
i only voted m5aa because i haven't tried m4ohn.. i use m5aa as a workout booster..40mgs.. heard lots of good things about m4ohn tho.. i do want to give that a try soon
06-14-2004, 11:20 PM
M5aa could be very addictive for me..I gained strength, some size, and a lot of hardness and vascularity at 30mgs a day.Being a heavier androgen (mainly DHT), is a little scary though...I did not have any sides at all though.It kept me really agresive at the gym.Probably my favorite of all the Methyls, PHs.
I like Mohn too, but I am not sure I would compare the 2
06-15-2004, 03:27 PM
btw, i said the jury was still out, and now it is in (with me) on both.
they are both excellent. i especially like m40hn for its elegance, it's lean gains/ability to spare muscle during dieting, and it REALLY promotes hunger with me (not the greatest thing while dieting, but...)
m5aa definitely puts you in the zone for workout and (for me) increases aggressiveness during workouts.
kind of different compounds.
i am going to try some 5aa cyp soon. interesting to compare to m5aa
06-15-2004, 04:12 PM
06-15-2004, 04:15 PM
well, ANY methyl has different properties than the non-methylated compound.
compare d-bol to its non-methylated counterpart. or methyltest to test, etc.
however, based on anecdotal reports, 5-aa cyp has some of the same effects as m-5aa did with me, and they are both DHT related drugs
06-15-2004, 09:12 PM
What IS dbol's non-methylated counterpart? It isn't manufactured/used is it?Originally Posted by jjjd
06-15-2004, 09:23 PM
06-16-2004, 01:16 PM
06-16-2004, 01:21 PM
06-16-2004, 02:04 PM
yeah, look it up yourself Benderzzz. i said dbol is METHYLATED equipoise.
read the thread. edumacate yourself.
06-16-2004, 08:18 PM
06-16-2004, 08:22 PM
06-17-2004, 03:02 AM
hey don't slag me for your lack of reading comprehension.
whinny once for yes, twice for no. equipoise must be working
06-17-2004, 12:07 PM
i could be wrong but dbol is methandrostenolone while equipose is boldenone undecylenate .. so how is dbol a methylated equipose?
06-18-2004, 11:13 PM
That's exactly what I'm gonna run, with the exception of the Trimax.Originally Posted by cyberseano
06-18-2004, 11:21 PM
06-18-2004, 11:26 PM
what about using ephedrine with the m5aa and m4ohn? would that be dangerous because i know the methyl causes a raise in BP
06-19-2004, 12:07 PM
i've use ephedrine while on a methyl. I wasn't so much worried about my BP, but more so my prostate. I've used M-1t up to 50mg per day with not much of a problem in BP. I've been using M-1t again with ephedrine and I am showing all the signs of enlarged prostate. I will be discontinuing use of ephedrine as that has always given me problems
06-24-2004, 12:21 PM
I'm considering the same thing, with a 2 on/ 2 off/ 2 on of Clen (and no Trimax).Originally Posted by cyberseano
06-25-2004, 09:14 AM
From 1Fast (http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1200): "M4OHN is an active hormone, it does not require a conversion to a target hormone such as 4AD Cyp. It is a Nandrolone derivative however the 4-OH group added inhibits a conversion to DHT (dihydrotestosterone) or DHN (dihydronandrolone) making this a mildly androgenic and highly anabolic compound."
Does anyone know if the inhibition of converting to DHT applies only to M4OHN or would it affect other compounds in your system at the time? If so then it would seem counterproductive to use M5AA with M4OHN.
06-25-2004, 12:16 PM
The 4-OH group inhibits the conversion of the molecule that has it. Thus, it inhibits the conversion of M4OHN, not other compounds.Originally Posted by silverSurfer
07-02-2004, 01:30 AM
09-02-2004, 03:03 PM
i am going to try some 5aa cyp soon. interesting to compare to m5aa[/QUOTE]
Are you going to pin it?
09-02-2004, 03:05 PM
09-07-2004, 01:25 AM
i'm having the same problem, but it started when i added the M1T as i always use ephedrine pre w/o. maybe the synergy makes it worse, but i know it's mainly M1T causing my enlarged prostate and it's associated problems.Originally Posted by fatty
01-11-2005, 01:20 AM
just so everyone doesnt go running M1T with ephedrine and/or synephrine - i had BP-related reaction to the simultaneous use of those compounds, and i still havent gotten my BP back to where it was. and i was only running 10mg/day.
supersoldier is right of course, about dbol and equipoise. where do you think the "bol" in dbol comes from?
01-16-2005, 02:53 PM
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