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    1-andro RD by AMS? Skeptical?


    AMS has a new product that is rapid disolve it is sublingual 1-androsterone

    But I am skeptical of AMS have they cleaned up their act or is their **** still bunkkk
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    I would like to know more also, can they be trusted?

    Its still a two step conversion to 1-test (like 1 Andro RX, which is usually ran at 600mgs)? So what would be the right does for gains? I doubt 200mg will do it.
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    yeah- I think AMS is a horrible company honestly
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    AMS is a great company and ive used many of there products with great success. This is sublingual not pill form. 600mgs in pill form was necessary yes, 200mgs sublingual should do just fine.

    Im excited to see them come out with this and feel it will be a very nice product with minimal sides.
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    what about when they sold one of their products as an anabolic w=when it was really dhea- which could be considered an anabolic but this was not SUPPOSED to be anabolic- just questioning is all as I have never used their products I cannot cast judgment
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    what about when they sold one of their products as an anabolic w=when it was really dhea- which could be considered an anabolic but this was not SUPPOSED to be anabolic- just questioning is all as I have never used their products I cannot cast judgment
    You casted judgment on your last post..
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    AMS is a great company and ive used many of there products with great success. This is sublingual not pill form. 600mgs in pill form was necessary yes, 200mgs sublingual should do just fine.

    Im excited to see them come out with this and feel it will be a very nice product with minimal sides.
    So to clarify, 200mgs of sublingual should be (roughly) equal to 600 mgs of 1-Andro Rx or the like, in terms of results?

    I'm interested but will have to learn more, and do more research.
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    Posted a bunch of information in the coupon thread:

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    AMS has a new product that is rapid disolve it is sublingual 1-androsterone

    But I am skeptical of AMS have they cleaned up their act or is their **** still bunkkk
    Why dont you post an app to log it and see if it is the real deal yourself.. And sublingual absorption is more efficient.
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    Their products do work. Just got done with the UTT version stacked with 4AD for 5 weeks. I gained 6 lbs...not Superdrol gains, but hey its non methyl and safer
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    what about when they sold one of their products as an anabolic w=when it was really dhea- which could be considered an anabolic but this was not SUPPOSED to be anabolic- just questioning is all as I have never used their products I cannot cast judgment
    Which product are you referring to? I never once heard of AMS releasing a product that wasnt supposed to be anabolic with DHEA in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Which product are you referring to? I never once heard of AMS releasing a product that wasnt supposed to be anabolic with DHEA in it.
    I heard about the DHEA thingy too..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    I heard about the DHEA thingy too..
    The only thing i ever heard about the DHEA thing was in the old 1-androsterone n that was it, but it was marketed as an anabolic and i ran it before when it first came out and had no problems with the product and had some nice gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    The only thing i ever heard about the DHEA thing was in the old 1-androsterone n that was it, but it was marketed as an anabolic and i ran it before when it first came out and had no problems with the product and had some nice gains.
    Thats what I heard. So you made nice gains with DHEA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Thats what I heard. So you made nice gains with DHEA?
    It wasnt just DHEA, i ran DHEA previously with M1D and superdrolNG that AX put out and this was leagues above DHEA, felt like the old 1-test products. Also i knew it was legit when i didnt drink enough water and it burned when i pissed, and no i didnt have an STD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Why dont you post an app to log it and see if it is the real deal yourself.. And sublingual absorption is more efficient.
    will do lets see what they say!
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    you guys are all confused i think.

    thier dienedrone was some good tren. potent shiit.

    all their other pro hormones contain isomers of dhea.

    example, 1-ad = 1-dhea, a two step ph to 1-testosterone

    4-ad = 4-dhea

    decavol = 19nor-dhea = two step ph to 19-nortestosterone

    never seen a just dhea product from ams.

    if u use their utt products, you'll need the xl versions, to double the dose.

    the decavol will need to be dosed super high.

    youre still gonna need 2-3 boxes of this for a decent cycle.

    2 boxes should do you good stacked with w/e.

    but i'd say 3-4 solo
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    What would you think about running the 1-dhea with the m14add/pmag stack to have some test in there?
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    1-testosterone is a derivative of dht, and is 5a reduced.

    you would need 4-dhea for a ph to testosterone.

    but I think you should stick with your orig plan.

    4-dhea would be good for some extra bulk. but it would make it a very wet cycle.

    m14add + pmag/4-dhea

    could be a good bulker though. hmm... the possibilities. too many cycles, not enough time.
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    just wait for the logs, or you can read the current logs out there on our UTT products.. far from bunk.
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    no they aren't bunk. just weak and expensive.

    and yes, i know dhea isomer raws are costly. no need to justify it.
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    I pm'd royd the noid he is looking into getting me a sponsored log, only problem is lol Im about to start my pct from my summer recomp- thus i will not be able to log it
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    no they aren't bunk. just weak and expensive.

    and yes, i know dhea isomer raws are costly. no need to justify it.
    alot of guys on here that have ran 4ad/1andro stack have walked away with 8+lbs at the end of a cycle.. if that is weak, then sign me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    I pm'd royd the noid he is looking into getting me a sponsored log, only problem is lol Im about to start my pct from my summer recomp- thus i will not be able to log it
    Lol, screw time off.. Run the log haha..
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    I should just go straight into this then my m14add pmag stack for a total of four months of orals!


    I REALLY WANT TO DO THIS


    But reason tells me it is STUPID


    But in all reality lol what r the chances of me seriously screwing myself up?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    I should just go straight into this then my m14add pmag stack for a total of four months of orals!


    I REALLY WANT TO DO THIS


    But reason tells me it is STUPID


    But in all reality lol what r the chances of me seriously screwing myself up?!
    Just do it and worry about the consequences later!
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    I dont think AMS is bunk, but their products seem to be on the expensive side to run an effective cycle with gains. Then again so are all 1-Andro products out these days that I am aware of. Its still a two step conversion to 1-test as I understand. How many bottles/boxes would be needed for a good cycle where one wanted to gain 8-10lbs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    no they aren't bunk. just weak and expensive.

    and yes, i know dhea isomer raws are costly. no need to justify it.
    But also safer to run longer, fewer side effects (if stacked), and thus a better chance of myofibrillar hypertrophy and gains lasting in PCT. There is both good and bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    I pm'd royd the noid he is looking into getting me a sponsored log, only problem is lol Im about to start my pct from my summer recomp- thus i will not be able to log it
    Egh you should have told me about this...How long do you think before you run another cycle? We will have to talk closer to the date.

    Quote Originally Posted by EArch View Post
    I dont think AMS is bunk, but their products seem to be on the expensive side to run an effective cycle with gains. Then again so are all 1-Andro products out these days that I am aware of. Its still a two step conversion to 1-test as I understand. How many bottles/boxes would be needed for a good cycle where one wanted to gain 8-10lbs?
    It really varies. Say for instance you have been cutting 10 weeks in contest prep and you were just coming off of it wanting to gain some LBM...well I would say with this you could make some solid gains in only 3 weeks (probably less if you were really depleted).

    It depends on several other factors:

    Cycle experience, training experience, diet, age, time off, etc. I think you get the picture though. This is really true of any prohormone, pro-steroid, or steroid. If you ran it solo I'd say the average guy would make those gains easy by getting 2 boxes and running it 6-8 weeks (8 weeks dosed 2 RD's/day or 6 weeks tapering up the last 2 weeks to 4 RD's/day)
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