Dermacrine – The Closest legal thing to Injectable Testosterone.

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  1. Dermacrine – The Closest legal thing to Injectable Testosterone.





    Dear AM,

    Needing a testosterone base for your cycle? Not wanting to break the law or inject testosterone?

    Dermacrine is the closest legal thing to testosterone, and is orally active using Liqua-Vade delivery technology. (1)

    Of course, Dermacrine won't pack on 25lbs of lean mass like pure injectable testosterone, but it can provide some of the important benefits.

    The main ingredient -

    DHEA: A natural hormone that converts to androgenic/anabolic hormones.

    Although DHEA appears to have limited conversion to actual testosterone, it will readily convert to the hormone androstenedione -- A very similar hormone to testosterone, with potent anabolic and androgenic effects. (1,2,9) Despite its ability to raise estrogen, androstenedione has been shown to significantly increase lean muscle mass and strength in men, while slightly reducing body fat. (2)

    The liver also converts DHEA to the hormone 7-oxo DHEA, which is a powerful thermogenic hormone. Human studies have shown 7-oxo DHEA can reduce body fat by several pounds after only 6 weeks. (4-8)

    DHEA can also support the immune system, and possibly prevent fatigue and lethargy from other steroid hormones. (10-12)


    $49.95 / 25 day supply at full dose

    Grab Dermacrine here.



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    References -


    1. The Future of Nutrient Delivery - Liqua-Vade

    2. Delta-4-androstene-3,17-dione binds androgen receptor, promotes myogenesis in vitro, and increases serum testosterone levels, fat-free mass, and muscle strength in hypogonadal men.
    Jasuja R et al.
    J Clin Endocrinol Metab 2005 Feb;90(2):855-63 Nov 2

    3. Evolution of genital masculinization: why do female hyaenas have such a large ‘penis’?
    Frank L
    Trends Ecol Evol 12:58-62 (1995)

    4. Ergosteroids: Induction of Thermogenic Enzymes in Liver of Rats Treated with Steroids Derived from Dehydroepiandrosterone.
    H Lardy, et al.
    PNAS, Jul 1995; 92: 6617

    5. Ergosteroids VI. Metabolism of dehydroepiandrosterone by rat liver in vitro: A liquid chromatographic mass spectrometric study.
    Marwah, A., et al.
    J. Chromatog. (2002). B 767, 285-299.

    6. Ergosteroids: induction of thermogenic enzymes in liver of rats treated with steroids derived from dehydroepiandrosterone.
    LARDY H, et al.
    Proc Natl Acad Sci USA 92: 6617-6619, 1995.

    7. A randomized, double blind, placebo controlled study of 3 - acetyl - 7 - oxo - dehydroepiandrosterone in healthy overweight adults.
    Kalman, D., et al.
    (2000). Curr. Ther. Res. 61, 435-442.

    8. The effect of 7 - keto Naturalean on weight loss: A randomized, double blind placebo controlled trial. Zenk, J., et al.
    (2002). Curr. Ther. Res. 63, 263-272.

    9. Physiological Changes in Dehydroepiandrosterone Are Not Reflected by Serum Levels of Active Androgens and Estrogens But of Their Metabolites: Intracrinology
    Fernand et al.
    Reproductive Endocrinology (1997) Vol. 82, No. 8 2403-2409

    10. Activation of immune function by dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) in age- advanced men.
    Khorram O, et al.
    J Gerontol 1997; 52A:M1- M7.

    11. Oral dehydroepiandrosterone in physiologic doses modulates immune function in postmenopausal women.
    Casson PR, et al.
    Am J Obstet Gynecol. 169:1536-1539. 1993

    12. Novel brain function: biosynthesis and actions of neurosteroids in neurons.
    K Tsutsui, et al.
    Neurosci Res, Apr 2000; 36(4): 261-73.


  2. what would be better as a test base, this or 1-t?

  3. 3. Evolution of genital masculinization: why do female hyaenas have such a large ‘penis’?
    Frank L
    Trends Ecol Evol 12:58-62 (1995)
    I like this ref. and I'm def. gonna have to look it up b/c I have always wanted to know why female hyenas have such large penises.

    BTW I love all of PP's products. I wish I worked for you guys so I could get a employee discount. I haven't tried you guys Dermacrine yet but I am getting ready to run the TRS stack again for my PCT. Nothing brings me back better even from heavily suppressive cycles.


    I was listening to a podcast and a Dr. said it was beneficial to run DHEA while on ghrp-6. i know this product is more than dhea but the Dr. has his patients on TD dhea while running the ghrp-6. I am researching it more b/c IDK if it would benefit the people taking mod-grf with the ghrp-6 or just people taking ghrp-6. So anyone out there running that peptide may want to look into the TD dhea.

    I am looking forward to trying this product tho'. I also haven't tried any of the LV products yet b/c I am such a fan of the transdermals. Anyways let me know when you guys start selling stock, I'll pick some shares up.
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  4. I'm loving Dermacrine LV and Havoc at the moment

  5. Quote Originally Posted by mdotmdot View Post
    what would be better as a test base, this or 1-t?
    BUMP for the answer

  6. Quote Originally Posted by mdotmdot View Post
    what would be better as a test base, this or 1-t?
    Dermacrine. 1T converts to 1-test, not test.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by kbtoy31 View Post
    I like this ref. and I'm def. gonna have to look it up b/c I have always wanted to know why female hyenas have such large penises.

    BTW I love all of PP's products. I wish I worked for you guys so I could get a employee discount. I haven't tried you guys Dermacrine yet but I am getting ready to run the TRS stack again for my PCT. Nothing brings me back better even from heavily suppressive cycles.


    I was listening to a podcast and a Dr. said it was beneficial to run DHEA while on ghrp-6. i know this product is more than dhea but the Dr. has his patients on TD dhea while running the ghrp-6. I am researching it more b/c IDK if it would benefit the people taking mod-grf with the ghrp-6 or just people taking ghrp-6. So anyone out there running that peptide may want to look into the TD dhea.

    I am looking forward to trying this product tho'. I also haven't tried any of the LV products yet b/c I am such a fan of the transdermals. Anyways let me know when you guys start selling stock, I'll pick some shares up.
    I was wondering if anyone was going to pick that reff up... they actually talk about androstenedione in that reff and how its responsible for the big penis of the female hyena ... aka androgenic effects.

    PM me if your interested in shares in the company.

    -Eric

  8. Quote Originally Posted by mdotmdot View Post
    what would be better as a test base, this or 1-t?
    Yeah, the 1-andro in 1-T can produce lethargy and cause libido trouble... Dermacrine is a better choice if you are looking for a libido boost.

    -Eric

  9. Im goin to run Superdrone LV for 3 weeks. Id like to run the Dermacrine for the full 3 weeks with it. This sounds like a good stack to me, could I even run the Dermacrine even longer?

  10. you could run the derm longer is you wanted. its not methylated

  11. superdrone and dermacrine......nice. What an excellent stack
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    superdrone and dermacrine......nice. What an excellent stack
    Sick idea man. Could run the derm with a Superdone kick start.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by rulk22 View Post
    Im goin to run Superdrone LV for 3 weeks. Id like to run the Dermacrine for the full 3 weeks with it. This sounds like a good stack to me, could I even run the Dermacrine even longer?
    Yeah, Dermacrine could be ran for 6 weeks if you wanted.

    It might be more exciting to use SD the last 3 weeks to really kick in the gains.

    -Eric

  14. How does Dermacrine compare to x-tren ?

  15. would it be possible to Pulse Superdrone and Decrimine M/W/F for 6 weeks together? or better to bridge it?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by FAMOUSX1 View Post
    would it be possible to Pulse Superdrone and Decrimine M/W/F for 6 weeks together? or better to bridge it?
    Really curious about this too. I'm thinking about running this exact same cycle.
    Seems like they would work very well together, just not sure if pulsing dermacrine has any use, or just running it 6 weeks straight while pulsing the SD. could get a little expensive, about $100 worth of dermacrine if I run it 6 weeks straight

  17. Im not and i believe eric is not a fan of pulsing at all. But i would maby kick start a derm cycle with SD and run derm 6 weeks.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo15 View Post
    Dermacrine. 1T converts to 1-test, not test.
    What is the difference? Thanks

  19. I would bridge.
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  20. off subject, I volunteer myself for a free 1month sample.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post

    It might be more exciting to use SD the last 3 weeks to really kick in the gains.

    -Eric
    I like this idea the best. I do this with my inject cycles. I will front load the injects to make it kick in a little sooner and then run the orals the last 6-8 weeks of cycle. it's incredible depending on the oral ( my all time fav is d-bol). It would be a little different with transdermal b/c I don't think you can front load them but IMO it's well worth the wait. Personally I am not a fan of superdrol, my body just does not react well to it, too many sides. But this is how I would run it.

  22. Will derm help with sides, like maybe keep bp lower while running epi

  23. Quote Originally Posted by jayts22 View Post
    Will derm help with sides, like maybe keep bp lower while running epi
    ive noticed slightly less sides from epi while running Derm along with it. less puffy nipples

  24. will never run epi again in my life. only PH that ever gave me nipp probs

  25. I asked how this in comparison to x-tren, I ment as in how does it compare as far as strength and muscle gain? x-tren makes you feel like a animal in the gym, how does this compare?

  26. Quote Originally Posted by RAZORBACK09 View Post
    I asked how this in comparison to x-tren, I ment as in how does it compare as far as strength and muscle gain? x-tren makes you feel like a animal in the gym, how does this compare?
    better dude. im mid cycle. its tren without the lethargy and more strength

  27. Quote Originally Posted by qwerty33 View Post
    better dude. im mid cycle. its tren without the lethargy and more strength
    No joke? Whats your dosing/stregth and muscle gains so far?
  28. UKStrength
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    Bump for Dermacrine LV!

  29. I was planning on running superdrone and tren liquidvade, could I add dermacrine or would that be over kill???
  30. UKStrength
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punisher88 View Post
    I was planning on running superdrone and tren liquidvade, could I add dermacrine or would that be over kill???
    You could, but if so I'd run the Superdrone and Tren LV at the minimum dosages (10-20mg/day superdrone and 2ml, 3 times per day of Tren LV) to prevent the chance of sides occuring.

    It's actually a cycle I was planning myself!

  31. Does Derm. need on cycle support or front loading of anything else?

  32. Quote Originally Posted by dbl38 View Post
    Does Derm. need on cycle support or front loading of anything else?
    dermacrine by its self wont need any cycle support IMO.
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  33. Quote Originally Posted by dbl38 View Post
    Does Derm. need on cycle support or front loading of anything else?
    dont think so m8

  34. Thanks, I am going to run the Derm. stack from PP and will let you know how it goes!!!

  35. Quote Originally Posted by xx Zues xx View Post
    What is the difference? Thanks
    Test can aromatize and cause some bloat, where 1-Test wouldn't

  36. ^ what he said

  37. Quote Originally Posted by RAZORBACK09 View Post
    How does Dermacrine compare to x-tren ?
    x-tren? Is that just diendione?

    Its really totally different than Dermacrine. TREN causes mood swings, kills the libido, and causes gyno issues for a lot of guys. Dermacrine doesnt have any of those problems.

    Id say TREN is stronger per mg, but you will certainly have more sides to deal with if you dose TREN high enough for big gains.

    -Eric

  38. Quote Originally Posted by jayts22 View Post
    Will derm help with sides, like maybe keep bp lower while running epi
    I dont think Dermacrine will lower blood pressure. Hawthorn berry is good for that though.

    -Eric

  39. 1g hawthorn ed is great for bp on cycle

  40. Soon as my superdrone gets here in going to run a 6 week pulse. I was going to start next week with Mdrol. But I wanna give this stuff a shot. 10-20 mg MWF
  

  
 

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