Mild and Safest PHs quickly

[ShapiroMD]

I'll make this post sweet and to the point because I'm out of battery and I can't find my notebook adapter lol.

I'm 5'10, 170lbs 22yrs about 11-12% bodyfat, been active all my life and been in the gym since around 18.

I want the safest and mild PHs there is. Suggest the bottle name so I won't get mixed up.

I'm thinking CEL H-Drol, Epistane and EQ-PLEX.

I have:
- Nolvadex on hand 20mg
- PCT Assit
- NAC & Milk thistle extract
- Bunch of cardiovascular support supps such as CoQ10, Fish Oil, Garlic, Hawthorn, Celery etc
- Generic BP med

 

[nosnmiveins]

bold 200, hdrol, and eq-plex.....pick one

 

[gamer2be08]

You already know what the mildest ph's are, hell you even wrote em xD.. Bold, epi and halodrol...

 

[ShapiroMD]

Ok I'm back

So I'm thinking my first cycle will be Hdrol and then my next cycle 4-6months after will be Estane. good / nah

But which one is better for strength gains?

 

[Bigchourico]

Ok I'm back

So I'm thinking my first cycle will be Hdrol and then my next cycle 4-6months after will be Estane. good / nah

But which one is better for strength gains?

Epistane

 

[gamer2be08]

Epi!!!

 

[corsaking]

I'll make this post sweet and to the point because I'm out of battery and I can't find my notebook adapter lol.

I'm 5'10, 170lbs 22yrs about 11-12% bodyfat, been active all my life and been in the gym since around 18.

I want the safest and mild PHs there is. Suggest the bottle name so I won't get mixed up.

I'm thinking CEL H-Drol, Epistane and EQ-PLEX.

I have:
- Nolvadex on hand 20mg
- PCT Assit
- NAC & Milk thistle extract
- Bunch of cardiovascular support supps such as CoQ10, Fish Oil, Garlic, Hawthorn, Celery etc
- Generic BP med

22yrs too young wait til 25.

why do you want to supress testosterone -the daddy of them all-at a time when it will be at it highest level in your body , for something which cannot match that-a mild safe ph.

Take advantage of what you have , train hard, eat sensibly and in 3 years time ;raise the question again-just my view

 

[Bigchourico]

22yrs too young wait til 25.

why do you want to supress testosterone -the daddy of them all-at a time when it will be at it highest level in your body , for something which cannot match that-a mild safe ph.

In that case why not wait till your 30's

 

[stl123]

Ok I'm back

So I'm thinking my first cycle will be Hdrol and then my next cycle 4-6months after will be Estane. good / nah

But which one is better for strength gains?

I actually had better strength gains on hdrol!

 

[LilPsychotic]

The mildest pH that I have taken thus far has been the sublingual "tren" products. Specifically, AMS Liquidrone. No sides, decent strength and fat loss, not a huge mass builder by any means, but I didn't lose any weight either. I went from 12% to 8% BF in 4 weeks, and gained a pound or two on a cutting cycle. It was pretty nice. Good feelings of well being, and omg aggression! I had to be pretty careful not to lose my cool on that stuff. Better act fast though, I think you can only by it legally until the 1st of the year.

 

[Bigchourico]

The mildest pH that I have taken thus far has been the sublingual "tren" products. Specifically, AMS Liquidrone. No sides, decent strength and fat loss, not a huge mass builder by any means, but I didn't lose any weight either. I went from 12% to 8% BF in 4 weeks, and gained a pound or two on a cutting cycle. It was pretty nice. Good feelings of well being, and omg aggression! I had to be pretty careful not to lose my cool on that stuff. Better act fast though, I think you can only by it legally until the 1st of the year.

Losing 4% bodyfat and gaining 2 pounds of muscle..That's a successfull cut you must've been RIPPED.:35:

 

[corsaking]

In that case why not wait till your 30's

yes id go along with that but some are too impatient

 

[LilPsychotic]

Losing 4% bodyfat and gaining 2 pounds of muscle..That's a successfull cut you must've been RIPPED.:35:

Yeah, it was pretty sweet. I followed up with a drive/rpm, and got down to 6%. That was about the leanest that I've ever been. When I cut out carbs, the fat just melts off. The trick is hanging on to mass, and this compound helped tremendously.

 

[Bigchourico]

Yeah, it was pretty sweet. I followed up with a drive/rpm, and got down to 6%. That was about the leanest that I've ever been. When I cut out carbs, the fat just melts off. The trick is hanging on to mass, and this compound helped tremendously.

Unless your competing in the Mr.Olympia there's really no reason to go below 6% I mean how much more ripped can you get? And cutting carbs is key but i find myself fantasizing less about sex and more about spaghetti,pizza and poptarts and that's scary.

 

[statik]

In that case why not wait till your 30's

I'm 31 and I'm just now messing with PH's. I'd say at least wait til 27. That's when I could tell my nat test was slowing down a bit. Even then I've done fine the last 2 years w/o any help from PH/PS.

 

[caesars]

orastan's clones,h-drol maybe bolds precursors :]

 

[Bigchourico]

I'm 31 and I'm just now messing with PH's. I'd say at least wait til 27. That's when I could tell my nat test was slowing down a bit. Even then I've done fine the last 2 years w/o any help from PH/PS.

Yes but lets be realistic nobody is going to wait untill their mid 30's to early 40's we tend to have familys and care alot more about our health by then.

 

[antdawg5150]

Unless your competing in the Mr.Olympia there's really no reason to go below 6% I mean how much more ripped can you get? And cutting carbs is key but i find myself fantasizing less about sex and more about spaghetti,pizza and poptarts and that's scary.

lol, some days I'd rather watch the food network than porn I miss carbs

 

[corsaking]

Yes but lets be realistic nobody is going to wait untill their mid 30's to early 40's we tend to have familys and care alot more about our health by then.

at least you recognise they can f**k you up but shouldnt you be concerned about health at any age.

The problem with bodybuilding is that the look is purely cosmetic.On the outside we strive for perfection to give the appearance of good health.so some of us at any rate,are prepared to take drugs to acheive that and risk damaging our internal organs

 

[dpfisher]

The problem with bodybuilding is that the look is purely cosmetic.On the outside we strive for perfection to give the appearance of good health.so some of us at any rate,are prepared to take drugs to acheive that and risk damaging our internal organs

Yeah but it's worth it. I bet many people here have never been out of shape but it's amazing how suddenly everyone wants to be your friend and everything you say becomes more important when you look good...

Truly a sad state of affairs

 

[gamer2be08]

I would rather live a life that I can enjoy and have fun while getting big/sculpted, than have a life of asking questions like how strong could I have been, or how big could I have been if I did use steroids... I like living life on the edge, I enjoy it, gives me a sense of well being and makes me feel good.

 

[corsaking]

Yeah but it's worth it. I bet many people here have never been out of shape but it's amazing how suddenly everyone wants to be your friend and everything you say becomes more important when you look good...

Truly a sad state of affairs

i agree