BUSTIN' out test e
- 12-04-2009, 11:38 PM
BUSTIN' out test e
Hey all, this is the BUSTERZ back in action with my cycle coming up soon. I feel off the map for the past two months due to some personal crisis in my family life. But now that everything has worked itself out, im back in the gym and back on AM.
I am still gaining about 1lb a month and my numbers for lifting are all still pretty much the same. Although I havnt been pushing myself much. I will be starting a cycle of Test E in about a month. I am in the process of collecting everything. Here is my layout.
week 1-10: 500mg test e per week
week 1-10: omega 3 fish oil
week 1-10: adex .25mg ed
week 1-10: glucosamine
week 1-10: life support/cycle support
week 1-10: saw palmetto (dht blocker?) trying to protect hairline
i knowtice a little thinning already naturally, unless DTH did it to me
week 1-4: 5g creatine ed
week 1-4: 50mg clomid
week 1-4: help with dosingmg tore(should my serm be a little longer than 4 weeks?)
week 3-8: 2 serving DTH/day
week 4-8: td formestane (is this not a good idea?)
Can anyone think of anything i forgot. Also i am in the process of looking for some HCG, although i might run the cycle without it, I prefer to run it. I would run 250iu 3x a week starting on week 3 and ending with my last shot of test.
I will be lifting for bulk. a lot of power lifting, power cleans, snaches, squats, deadlifts, ectera. Hopefully the Adex keeps me from getting to bloated though! 190lbs here i come!!!!!!!!!!!
- 12-05-2009, 12:32 AM
Glad to see you're running an AI and hCG. hCG should be pretty easy to find, and very cheap.
As for your hairline, try out some Nizoral. Obviously the 2% prescription formula might work better, but the 1% formula that you can purchase at Wal-Mart for 10 bucks works great. Get in the shower, wet your hair, and massage it in for about a minute and then just let it sit in your hair for at least 5 minutes while you finish up your shower. Don't worry, 5 minutes isn't too long, I think read about a study where the subjects used the 2% formula for 30 minutes.
A lot of people don't know that Nizoral also works great for cycle-related acne. The active ingredient, Ketoconazole, is an effective topical anti-androgen. Therefore, you can use it as a body wash to help control acne on your back and shoulders.
I actually opted for Ketoconazole cream for acne control. I found it really cheap online. I squirted a few tubes into a baby food sized jar. Then, I took some spironolactone tabs that I got from the same place, crushed them up, and mixed the powder in with the Ketoconazole cream. Spironolactone, by the way, is another topical anti-androgen that can help control acne caused by hormone fluctuations. I am confident they will work well together, as the combination in a shampoo is what Dr. Crisler recommends as the best way to combat hair loss.
I am confident this cream I made will help me control back/shoulder acne on my next cycle. I usually never get acne, but, when using AAS, I get some on my back/shoulders that doesn't seem to want to go away using the usual anti-bacterial stuff. This, I believe, is because rather being a bacterial issue, it is hormonal.
Anyway, sorry for going off on a little tangent... Back to the thread.
- 12-05-2009, 01:53 AM
thank you that was very helpful!!!
do you think HCG is completely necessary for this cycle? or just perfered? im having trouble finding some at a decent price,,,,
12-05-2009, 02:16 AM
I guess "necessary" is a subjective term.
Can you run the cycle, keep a good portion of your gains, and recover fine without it? Yes, of course.
But, running hCG will not only increase the safety of the cycle from an HPTA perspective, but it will also allow you to recover much faster and feel better while on cycle. Keep in mind that the faster you recover, the more gains you will be able to keep.
Make sure you run the hCG throughout the cycle at small dosages instead of taking ridiculously high dosages during PCT to "shock" your balls or whatever it is that people are trying to do with that method. Dr. Crisler's protocol worked excellently for me: http://www.allthingsmale.com/word_docs/AASrecovery.doc
I took 250IU every third day throughout the cycle and my balls remained the same size the whole time. I also feel I recovered very quick (just my subjective opinion not based on any bloodwork).
12-05-2009, 03:51 AM
I think you'll make great gains if your subjective to TEST. HCG...depends. I think the clomid would do you just fine! Take it if you feel necessary! Good luck.
12-05-2009, 04:37 PM
sorry my pants are low fellas. i didnt mean to disrespect myself like that. lol
12-05-2009, 04:37 PM
i look a bit more sizey in the core in real life
6 months ago
not too much of a change in 6 months. a total of a 5lb increase of weight
12-05-2009, 05:50 PM
im in for the ride Busterzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Think Timberzzzzzzzzzz will show up?
12-05-2009, 06:28 PM
12-05-2009, 06:29 PM
mah chest may be small but mah gynozzzz is hyooooge!
12-05-2009, 06:36 PM
Subscribed! Just dose the HCG @ 250iu every 3rd day starting at week 3. Ditch the life support/cycle support and buy CoQ-10 and hawthorn extract. Use the CS/LS while on orals
12-05-2009, 06:38 PM
man this board is going shutdown crazy!!!!!!!! since when has hcg been a prerequesite for a 10 week test cycle?
12-05-2009, 06:59 PM
12-05-2009, 07:01 PM
12-05-2009, 07:41 PM
Anyway, if you're done with pathetic ad hominem attacks and are ready to address the issue, why don't you articulate to us why running hCG isn't worth the $20 it would cost for enough to run w/ a 10 week cycle? Is the shrunken ballsack look in right now or something? Oh please, we're all waiting for you to bless us all with your elite bodybuilding knowledge. I'm sure you've done quite a few cycles, which obviously automatically makes everything you say right.
12-05-2009, 07:48 PM
There's no need for an argument here, it's really simple, yes HCG is only going to help but in all practicality it's far from necessary, especially for 10-12 week test cycles
i actually decided not to use HCG on this cycle. I've used it before, I just didn't care enough to bother with sourcing it this time.
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12-07-2009, 12:45 AM
imma try to use the HCG, better safe than sorry
what should i does my TORE at?
for pct i will be running a low dose of clomid 50mg for 4 weeks
what should i dose tore at along with that?
12-07-2009, 07:47 AM
That being said...ive seen you posting a lot around here of late. You seem to be a smart person that is only just getting a grasp on steroids, please no offense. I see you posting about superdrol once a week and hcg on minimal cycles, what do you expect me to do other than ask your cycle history?
While hcg could help buster on cycle its definately not a must have. It would just complicate an easy first cycle...imo.
TOR and Clomid together is a little overkill. Clomid by itself at 50 is plenty to restore lh function. Either 20mgs of nolva ed or an ai would be a good addition to clomid for your pct. I prefer a nolva/clomid stack myself.
12-07-2009, 08:10 AM
I am subbing to watch buster get hyyyuuuuugggggeee. I seriously think you should grow like a weed on what you have lined up. I am not an expert, especially on inject cycles, but I thought most used Adex EOD instead of ED. I know some don't even use and AI unless they are experiencing bloat or gyno symptoms.
Seriously though, good luck!
12-07-2009, 09:37 AM
12-07-2009, 09:50 AM
12-07-2009, 10:30 AM
All I'm saying is hCG is cheap and easy to use, so even if the benefit it provided to the cycle was minute, it's still worth it. All you've rebutted with is that it will "complicate" his cycle.
12-07-2009, 10:45 AM
like i said im not going to argue with you, and this isnt a debate. I dont need a rebuttle. I will say this though, you and a few others are creating a "shutdown" histeria on this board. A few inexperienced guys who have read a couple posts on steroids are making the less experienced guys think they will need hcg, ai's and three serms for anything more than a 4 week epi cycle.
12-07-2009, 11:56 AM
12-07-2009, 12:47 PM
This little back-and-forth has been anything but fruitful, so let's just let this guy run his log in peace, kthxbye.
12-07-2009, 01:04 PM
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12-07-2009, 01:18 PM
12-07-2009, 02:17 PM
wa wa wie wa (borat voice)
yeah so it turns out I will be running hcg and extending my cycle to 12 weeks. LOL 250 ius every third day sound about right? Or should i jack up the numbers?
IM DOWN TO GET HYYYYYYOOOOOOOOGGGGGEEEEEEEE. Testosterone BABY!
What do yall think about kickstarting this bad boy with some Superdrol or DBOL or possably even epi(epi seems a little to shy for the spirit of this cycle)
12-07-2009, 02:22 PM
So how about JUST Clomid? Clomid is good for restarting your HPTA but isnt so good with blocking the estrogen receptors correct? I think I read this somewhere on this board. If this is true maybe i should stack with nolva to be on the safe side? Or do yall think that clomid alone is fine for a straight test cycle? I wont get gyno in pct if i use clomid correct?
12-07-2009, 03:16 PM
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12-07-2009, 05:17 PM
12-07-2009, 06:08 PM
kick start with epi then add some deca woah
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