It's fine to jumpstart a PH cycle with dbol, I'm not sure why you wouldn't just do a test/dbol cycle (unless you don't want to pin and can't get ahold of test base to put in a transdermal). You have to remember to always have some sort of test (or PH that converts to it, in this case 4AD) in a real gear cycle IMHO, hence the reccomendation of dbol + 4AD.
thx manbeast, that is mainly the reason i dont wanna run Test, im scared to **** of needles. And before jumpin into an all out AAS cycle i wanted to get me feet wet a bit.
Anyways, what dosages would u recommend running of dbol/4ad and for how long, i have researched it and i wont need to go over 15-20/mg dbol daily. but as far as other dosages and cycle length i need some info on, thx in advance
and one last question, i know the answer to my question is dependant on more than one variable(training,diet, rest), but i cant help but ask how much one could gain on such a cycle
I'd run the cycle for a month and I'd dose it as follows:
dbol - 25mg ED
4AD - build your own http://powernutrition.net/product_info.php?products_id=262 at that link with 10 grams of 4AD, use 4ml every day.
This would give you a very powerful bulker, you might bloat up a bit on it though so you might want to have an anti-e on hand for during cycle. I'd reccomend nolva or clomid for PCT as well.
sifu: 4AD is what converts to test, people have run fina:4AD cycles before, and if 4AD can keep "finadick" away, then I have no hesitation to reccomend running it with dbol. Yes, test is best, but like I said, if he can't get any test base powder to put in a transdermal, 4AD is the next best thing that doesn't require pinning.
I never said eqivalent, I'm just presenting him with a cycle geared (no pun intended) to what he's able to/wants to run. Would I personally run this cycle? No, but I'm a freak that loves his needles! Seriously 40 in 12, if you can get dbol, I would try to get some test base powder (10g) and put that into a bottle of t-gel instead.
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