A Tren/SD Stack, Few questions for the pros

impulseoctane

impulseoctane

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Alrighty,

This should be my last thread about this stack before I start it in November.

Here's the plan:

Actual DS: Purus Labs e-pol (15mg SD / 30mg Tren per cap)
Will be taking two caps per day​

Support before/on/post cycle:

Multi
Fish Oil
Whey
Pre/Post supps
Liver Armor
Cholesterol Support -- ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON PRODUCTS?
Heart Support -- AGAIN, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS? Just stick with Hawthorne?

Post:

Clomid -- DOSAGE? (I plan 50/50/50/50)
iForce Reverseitol -- DOSAGE? (I plan 0/4/3/2/1)


Diet and Training will be spot on as always

Anything else I should know before tackling this one?

:cheers:
 
For overall health support on cycle, Id look into cycle support by anabolic innovations. Alot of guys on this board use it and its a quality product imo. The cycle support has hawthorne berry in it, but if you want something else for heart support Id suggest some CoQ10. Run clomid at 50,50,25,25 and start the reversitol during week 3 of your pct and you should be good to go!
 
Start the clomid higher. I would throw in other PCT supps as well, as much as you can afford.

I really hate the way that product is balanced. Seriously it should have half as much superdrol, 7mg SD and 30mg of Tren per pill would be right. The way it is balanced is so stupid, you are forced into 30mg of SD which is totally excessive for most people. Especially from day 1 of the cycle. And you cannot even dose tren properly at all, it's underdosed the entire cycle while superdrol is overdosed. There's no dosing scheme you can do with that product that I could approve.... ****ing hate stacked products with bad ratios... The shutdown is going to be horrible by the way. 30mg of SD for a month along with 60mg of tren is going to be bad news for your nuts... it's just not dosed right!

/end rant
 
wolverines said:
For overall health support on cycle, Id look into cycle support by anabolic innovations. Alot of guys on this board use it and its a quality product imo. The cycle support has hawthorne berry in it, but if you want something else for heart support Id suggest some CoQ10. Run clomid at 50,50,25,25 and start the reversitol during week 3 of your pct and you should be good to go!
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Is that a little low on the clomid? And starting Reversitol on week 3, would I still use the 4/3/2/1? That would make a 6 week pct, nice.

Edit: Thanks for the CoQ10 suggestion!

UnrealMachine said:
Start the clomid higher. I would throw in other PCT supps as well, as much as you can afford.

I really hate the way that product is balanced. Seriously it should have half as much superdrol, 7mg SD and 30mg of Tren per pill would be right. The way it is balanced is so stupid, you are forced into 30mg of SD which is totally excessive for most people. Especially from day 1 of the cycle. And you cannot even dose tren properly at all, it's underdosed the entire cycle while superdrol is overdosed. There's no dosing scheme you can do with that product that I could approve.... ****ing hate stacked products with bad ratios... The shutdown is going to be horrible by the way. 30mg of SD for a month along with 60mg of tren is going to be bad news for your nuts... it's just not dosed right!

/end rant
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I don't want to go overkill though, know what I mean?

What would you start the Clomid at? 75? 100? And how would you run it?

Also, what if I added (in addition to clomid and reversitol) something like BBS's "Complete PCT" or AI's "Post Cycle Support"? Think that would make enough?

And I do agree 30 is a bit much. I'd rather it be somewhere 8-10mg per cap, but it is what it is. Also, I may start the first week with 1 cap daily, not 2. We'll see.
 
Have you maybe thought about buying the superdrol and tren separetly? That way you wouldnt be forced into using 30 mg of superdrol per capsule and you can modify your cycle according to the dosages you want. Also, to answer your question, yes start the reversitol on week 3 following a 4,3,2,1 protocol. That way you are running your AI inversely to your serm.
 
wolverines said:
Have you maybe thought about buying the superdrol and tren separetly? That way you wouldnt be forced into using 30 mg of superdrol per capsule and you can modify your cycle according to the dosages you want. Also, to answer your question, yes start the reversitol on week 3 following a 4,3,2,1 protocol. That way you are running your AI inversely to your serm.
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I did, but it was much more cost effective to buy the epol. Besides, if I don't grow on 30mg SD, I'll know it's time to switch sports :lmao:.

On a serious note though, 4/3/2/1 starting week three of clomid at 75/50/50/25 isn't inverse. Was that a typo, or should I actually do them inverse?
 
impulseoctane said:
I did, but it was much more cost effective to buy the epol. Besides, if I don't grow on 30mg SD, I'll know it's time to switch sports :lmao:.

On a serious note though, 4/3/2/1 starting week three of clomid at 75/50/50/25 isn't inverse. Was that a typo, or should I actually do them inverse?
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Yes, running the reversitol week 3 is inverse to your serm. You are ramping your AI up (ATD and 6 bromo in reversitol) as you lower the clomid.
 
wolverines said:
Yes, running the reversitol week 3 is inverse to your serm. You are ramping your AI up (ATD and 6 bromo in reversitol) as you lower the clomid.
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Got ya. We have a different definition of inverse. I thought you mean taper down the clomid, and taper up the AI; not taper them both down, just staggered.

Thanks for everyone's help.

I picked up CTD's "Liver Armor" and MN's "Lipid Stabil". Have hawthorne and milk thistle.

Putting the order in this weekend for the clomid. And I'll pick up the reversitol next week.

Cycle starts Nov. 1!
 
Sorry to confuse you there man I think I should have worded it better. Basically as you start to lower your serm during the 3rd and 4th weeks you are starting you AI at the highest recommended dose and tapering down from there... Glcuk with the cycle and be sure to keep us posted !
 
Tren and Superdrol is hard to justify. Tren and Dbol works so well because Dbol aromatizes significantly and Tren doesn’t. Even EQ and Tren are synergistic because of the small amount of aromatization from EQ. Trest is much stronger than Tren obviously in part because of the 7amethylation but also because it aromatizes so heavily. This is so key for growth factors. Superdrol is a DHT derivative so neither have any estrogenic activity. Additive maybe, synergistic though? Two drugs that can really make you feel like crap. Maybe it will be amazing though, I don’t know.
 
Evan Bageris said:
Tren and Superdrol is hard to justify. Tren and Dbol works so well because Dbol aromatizes significantly and Tren doesn’t. Even EQ and Tren are synergistic because of the small amount of aromatization from EQ. Trest is much stronger than Tren obviously in part because of the 7amethylation but also because it aromatizes so heavily. This is so key for growth factors. Superdrol is a DHT derivative so neither have any estrogenic activity. Additive maybe, synergistic though? Two drugs that can really make you feel like crap. Maybe it will be amazing though, I don’t know.
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LOL. Bro.....check out the date.
 
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