One of my favorite steroid cycles was test prop and tren. . .i am just curious what ph stack would be comparable, i know 4ad converts to test, but is the 4ad prop similiar to test prop? also i heard that m1t is like an oral tren in effects, is that true or is there something better? I have no problem with needles as I have 5 steroid cycles under my belt. . . Just don't want anything illegal in the house now that my kids are getting older and what not. . .