Well I did see on animals board that they have 4ad no ester at 75mg per ml. There is no way I would buy it like that though if I can make it myself. So I was assuming that the base would be injectable just every day injects. I want a faster acting injectable then say a cyp and a base should be fast. Right? I know that there is a pain issue with injecting the 1-test base but the 4-ad from what I have read should work. If I am incorrect I would love to know before I make a stupid mistake this will be my first injectable cycle.