LOW dose Epistane cycle.
- 06-25-2009, 04:52 PM
LOW dose Epistane cycle.
Many of you have read before that you can run low dose Dbol first thing in the morning without it causing suppression. My question is do you think its feasible to do that with a mild compound like Epistane at 10mgs ?? For those that are unfamiler with this idea, basically it means that men produce the highest amounts of their daily testosterone first thing in the morning. If you take a small amount of an anabolic during that time, enough to not succeed the test levels, than the body doesnt really "see" the compound and suppression is avoided. Now I'm thinking that 10mgs a day for up to 75 days is fairly safe considering most have very minimal suppression even at 30 and 40 mgs a day for 4 weeks. The longer you are on a compound the easier it is to develop keepable muscle gains. Any input to this guys ?? Please spare me the uneducated "it will all shut you down" spew, I'm not new to this after all.
Remember why you started.
- 06-25-2009, 05:00 PM
I know Mooch can answer this, as i have recently talked to him about it.
Lets see what he has to say.
I am thinking about doing something similar myself. I was actually thinking of doing 10mg/day, and 20mg on WO days(m/w/f) all pre workout.
- 06-25-2009, 05:01 PM
06-25-2009, 05:04 PM
06-25-2009, 05:06 PM
06-25-2009, 05:53 PM
06-25-2009, 06:04 PM
in my last pct i ran 10mgs of epi in the morning and then for a few months afterwords....i LOVED it....with a half life of only six hours if you take it first thing in the morn you should not get suppressed.....start with ten and if you need go to 20 but that would be as high as id go....what i was doing was waking up....poppin my epi, iload and no supps, waiting a half hour and chuggin 2 scoops procomplex with half a tablespoon natty pb and 1 1/2 cups oats.....then gym an hour later....great workouts and good recovery....i think you will be pleasanly suprised....but remember this is not something where your going to get hyooge quick....but it sure does help and is a nice alternative from a regular cycle....i was also dosing all my liver supps at night right before i went to bed....remember epi is still a methyl....
Imprez....do you DC?
06-25-2009, 06:08 PM
06-25-2009, 06:09 PM
sweet....yeah i started like six months ago....i love it!
06-25-2009, 06:11 PM
those guys over at intense muscle are bast@rds though.....i lurked around there for a while to get the information because i was intrigued....but talk about a group of anti-social idiots....every other post was your not ready for dc and dc is not for everybody and blah, blah, blah....its like they dont want people to realize that dc is the sh!t....
06-25-2009, 06:15 PM
06-25-2009, 06:38 PM
I'm thinking that it could be valuable later on during PCT, at least after a week or two once test levels are high enough to compensate for the low dose in the morning. If you start the Epi right away, test is too low and it will keep you shut down. This is merely speculation, but logical.
Remember why you started.
06-25-2009, 06:42 PM
what i did was end my test cycle with 4 weeks of epi and then dropped the dose to 10mgs two weeks after my last injection and started a course of nolva and clomid dosed at night time.....
i did not notice any decrease in recovery whatsoever....in fact you might say there was an increase.....i didnt get my normal pct depression, kept a lot of my gains...which lately ive been falling back to 220 after every cycle....and had great energy and appetite throughout pct....it really enhanced every aspect of pct for me....
06-25-2009, 07:05 PM
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06-25-2009, 07:09 PM
LOTS more expensive though.....
06-25-2009, 09:38 PM
06-26-2009, 07:03 AM
how would differ from Superdrol low dose as someone has started a thread in here previously and the end conclusion was that it was a waste of time and money and health?
06-26-2009, 08:40 AM
Well I think its solely dependent on the compound being used. Sdrol is harder to manipulate due to it acting on different receptors, whether its a progestin, etc. Epistane is mild and simple, dare I say almost healthy other than the methylation factor.
06-26-2009, 01:53 PM
can you link this....the only one i was familiar with was kind of a joke...the guy took 5mgs a day for like two weeks and said he put on size and strenght and people were telling him he looked bigger.....but his superdrol was bunk because he only put on like 4 lbs.........so he quit doing it after like 12 days or something....but honestly id rather use epi....
06-26-2009, 02:36 PM
Low doses of toxic compounds accumulate in the body over time. Be sure to have your ancilliaries set up, and don't go overboard. I'd rather see you go on Dbol at 10-15mg, which has been around for decades, rather than Epi.
Basically, what you are gonna do is a tweaked pulse cycle?
06-26-2009, 02:43 PM
06-26-2009, 02:54 PM
Where did he say hat he was going to run epi through pct? In case, I missed it, it totally makes sense, and I am blind
06-26-2009, 03:01 PM
06-26-2009, 03:14 PM
06-26-2009, 03:25 PM
06-26-2009, 03:27 PM
Remember why you started.
06-26-2009, 03:42 PM
06-26-2009, 03:46 PM
I wonder what the effect of months of low doses of Epi would have on one's LDL level, just to mention one eventual side effect.
06-26-2009, 04:31 PM
i had bloodwork done 6 weeks after my pct started...so at that point id been on 10mgs for 6 weeks....hdl was 55 mg/dl....ldl was 130mg/dl.....so hdl was a little low and ldl was a little high....but neither number was serious.....and this was after 14 weeks on test too....again as i stated earlier this is just my personal experience with one experiment....if anyone tries this i would highly recomend getting your own blood work done as this is a long time to be on a methyl compound....
07-17-2009, 09:12 AM
Did you decide to do this with the low dose epi godfather? Any updates as far as results?
04-28-2010, 06:39 AM
Bump for anyone that has tried this.
Based on what was discussed, I was thinking a 2-4 weeks of
10mg Epi upon waking (7AM)
Sustain Alpha (Dermal) ~Noon
Along with supporting supps (Liver Support, Multi, EFAs, Etc)
05-14-2010, 03:36 PM
Im curios too, I found a dude who wanted to run 10 mg in the morning for like 2 months. Just wondering if anybody has anymore input on this
09-10-2011, 11:24 AM
I would like to bump this, there are some good unanswered questions near the end
09-10-2011, 11:38 AM
yea, its been 4 months. interesting ideas. any updates?
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09-10-2011, 12:02 PM
09-11-2011, 07:06 AM
bump for more information
01-30-2013, 02:10 PM
This is what happin to me . I was in the middle of an epi 5 week cycle at 30 mg aday. I got in a car wreck was unable to lift or take epi for a few days.... My right chest swole up like a brest! I couldn't lift cuz of my injurys my body was obviously outa wack as soon as I was released I startd epi again at 10mg aday for the rest of the bottle lifting like once a week with physical therapy .I didn't lo se eny weight I gain maby 3lbs and was the most ripped I've ever been .I took 10mg apon rising I had morning wood everyday too just my two cents
05-16-2013, 06:58 PM
Curious if anyone has anymore feedback on this topic
05-18-2013, 04:45 PM
I'm soon starting 10mg aday and treating it like a steroidal AI that's pretty anabolic maby 90 days maby shorter this is an self expiment type thing
05-21-2013, 09:49 AM
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