1,4-andro, 4 weeks to kick in? To me, that's a misconception...

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Jergo
    neurotic, chemo and bobo are just trying to help you understand, not trying to cast you out. Look to them as you would a good high school or college teacher that is actually interested in their work. I'm sure you will appreciatte them and this board more if you keep an open mind.
    Damn. That would make Chemo the college teacher and me the high school teacher. How degrading! Stupid Chemists......
    For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    Damn. That would make Chemo the college teacher and me the high school teacher. How degrading! Stupid Chemists......
    LOL!!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Bobo
    Damn. That would make Chemo the college teacher and me the high school teacher. How degrading! Stupid Chemists......
    And that would make the rest of us remedial students, I suppose. But your right, nothing more degrading then being a high school teacher.

    db

  4. Quote Originally Posted by neurotic
    bobo,

    if ratios and rat assays aren't the only thing to look at and it's better to look at the mechanisms by which something works or something doesn't work. Would you explain the mechanisms by which test works so well and the mechanisms by which 1-test doesn't work so well?

    to compare test to 1-test fairly you have to use comparable delivery systems

    oral testosterone is useless (try it). oral 1-test OTOH is actually somewhat effective. this may have something to do with absolute potency and it may also have something to do with bioavailabilty

    testosterone cypionate by injection is quite potent. 1-test cypionate by injection may or may not be, i really don't know enough about it. It would be an interesting comparison however

    keep and open and objective and scientific mind

  5. Quote Originally Posted by sifu
    Test is king, not 1test or methyl-test or M1T. But test is king. Ask any pro or any brother that knows what they are talking about. There is a reason that it is the base for every stack, and if it isn't the base of someones stack, then they are going about it all wrong.

    winstrol, trenbolone, anadrol, these are not kings either

    test is king because it is the natural hormone and therefore quite easily tolerated by the body. You can take large amounts for long time and not suffer unduly. It is also very cheap and easily available.

    yes it is effective as well, but the aforementioned reasons have more to do with the fact that it is king then the fact that it is stronger than everything else
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  6. Thanks Patrick

  7. P.A. good to see you here,
    I enjoyed reading your posts when I used to frequent MFW.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold
    test is king because it is the natural hormone and therefore quite easily tolerated by the body. You can take large amounts for long time and not suffer unduly.
    This is the strongest argument for testosterone.
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