Studies show that, when administered by IM injection, 1-test is 7 times more anabolic than testosterone base and 2 times more anabolic than test propionate.
If we cannot rely on ratios and/or studies, how do we know which steroids are more anabolic and which are more androgenic? It's what we have: studies and ratios. Other than that... anecdotal reports... but I very much doubt we can conclude anecdotal reports are EVIDENCE, they will never be.
Then if we cannot trust studies and/or ratios anyone might come up saying "To me, Anavar is more androgenic than test" and no one could antagonize his point of view, don't you think?
Your ratios are based on the effect on rat organs, not humans. They don't even show metabolic effects. Its a simple comparison of organ and muscle effcts in rats, thats it. I'll look it up tomorrow but the process of how they determined ratios back in the 60's was used to determine dosages compared to a standard hormone. Thats it.
The point is, we don't know which ones will be good. You have to look past the ratios and at the actual substance itself. I HAVE taken high doses of 1-test and its not close to Test.
Actually I found it.
"To determine the A/A ratio, scientists utilized a test called the Rat Levator Ani Assay. In this test, scientists use two groups of castrated rats. The rats are castrated to remove any interfering influence from fluctuating natural androgen levels. The first group of rats are a control group that receives a placebo, while the second group receives the steroid (either by injection or orally). After a period of time (several days to weeks) the rats are sacrificed. Researchers then isolate three organs from each of the rats – the seminal vesicles, ventral prostate, and levator ani muscle. These organs are all weighed and a comparison of the active group to the placebo groups is made. The differences in weights for the seminal vesicles and ventral prostate represent androgenic activity, while the difference in the weight of the levator ani muscles in the control and active group represent anabolic activity.
To give a landmark against which to gauge the relative activities of each steroid in this assay, a standard is used in some of the rats in the active group. This standard is usually testosterone, testosterone propionate, or 17alpha-methyltestosterone (MT) and the results obtained from the rats given this standard are designated an arbitrary number of 1 for anabolic activity and 1 for androgenic activity. Therefore these standard androgens are said to have an A/A ratio of 1.
Summary
Just because something is 1000 times as potent as d-bol does not mean that it will get you 1000 times as big as d-bol at the same dose. No, what it means is that it takes a dose 1/1000th that of a given dose dbol to get the same result. In fact, if you took d-bol like doses of one of those monster steroids in the Ugly section you probably would not get any gains. You would probably just end up sick.
NOW, I'm going to bed.