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    Ok, I started back on January 29th with 10mg. Diet is huge. Very clean and a ton of it. I'll post some pics soon. I weighed in at 190 or so after a cut and have already gained 6lbs in 7 days on. I started 20mg Superdrol on day 4. I haven't noticed strength increase yet but weight is started. My support supps are as follows.

    1000mg DHA & EPA (fish oil)
    P5P- 200mg
    Vitex-1600mg
    DHEA-100mg
    EAS Whey-2 40gram shakes w/ oats ground in coffee grinder

    Diet mainly consists of
    6am-5 eggs, 4 pieces whole wheat toast, 1 tbs olive oil. I sub the toast for Steel cut oats 4 days a week. I add 2 tbs milled Flax Seed to oats.

    9am-3tbs Natty PB sweetened w/ honey, flax seed & flax seed oil. 2 peices whole grain toast. 1 banana .The Peanut Butter is Excellent sh*t. It's called Naturally More. I pick it up at Wal Mart.

    11am- 40grams EAS Whey Protein, 1/4 cut ground oats

    12- workout

    1pm-Protein shake

    3pm-Beef, Chicken, Fish w/ rice or sweet potatoe.

    530pm- big dinner. Pasta, chicken, beef, fish. Whatever I fell like makin' .

    7-smaller high carb meal.

    9pm-cottage cheese before bed.

    I'll post some workouts from here on out. As I said, no strength gains yet although my squat workout yesterday was good. I can't go really heavy due to multiple hernaited dics in my lower back. This bums me out because my legs are very strong but my back can't take the weight.

    2-3-09 SQUATS-
    135 (15x) WU
    205 (10x)
    225 (15x)
    245 (10x)
    245 (10x)
    255 (8x)

    This should be fun. Aside from a blood pressure spike due to some sodium filled ham, I've been great. No back, calf, or shin pumps. Cheers and welcome...

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    a little overboard with the p5p and vitex imo. The whole superdrol prolactin thing, eh, seems kinda blown up imo. I think i remember reading when prolactin goes down estro goes up so that could explain why some people have problems when they are taking all this prolactin side precautions. Dont let me foil the plan tho, i could be wrong.

    Post workout only a protien shake then a meal 2 hours later? I think you need more right after your workout, 2hr is too long to wait for a meal post wo imo.

    how long you running it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    a little overboard with the p5p and vitex imo. The whole superdrol prolactin thing, eh, seems kinda blown up imo. I think i remember reading when prolactin goes down estro goes up so that could explain why some people have problems when they are taking all this prolactin side precautions. Dont let me foil the plan tho, i could be wrong.

    Post workout only a protien shake then a meal 2 hours later? I think you need more right after your workout, 2hr is too long to wait for a meal post wo imo.

    how long you running it?
    3-4 weeks depending how I feel. Very good right now. Recovery time is really quick. Barely sore at all from chest workout on Monday. Hoping the strength gains follow soon.
    about the doses for vitex and p5p. yeah, I've seen many different peoples doses and this sems ok. I haven't experienced any sides as far as prolactibn goes.
    The post about food isn't 100% on point. I usually have protein an hour before and hour after. I eat right after workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    a little overboard with the p5p and vitex imo. The whole superdrol prolactin thing, eh, seems kinda blown up imo. I think i remember reading when prolactin goes down estro goes up so that could explain why some people have problems when they are taking all this prolactin side precautions. Dont let me foil the plan tho, i could be wrong.

    Post workout only a protien shake then a meal 2 hours later? I think you need more right after your workout, 2hr is too long to wait for a meal post wo imo.

    how long you running it?
    this is probably the weirdest thing i will ever say, but hopefully someone will back me up here. designer supplements managed to do their sdrol different than anyone else - you could run it longer, higher, and with less sides than any clones. if you have the original (designer supps), then do a 4 week run, and as PP says, don't worry too much about the "sides" that you've heard about.
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    More calories. That's far from "HUGE".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    No liver/lipid support?
    Yes, I'm using Cycle Support. I am waiting on another tub from my boy Workingatit from another forum. I only have 2 days left then it will be strictly Hawthorn Berry, Milk Thistle until my other tub arrives.
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    day 7


    20mg Superdrol

    biceps/triceps

    standing db curls- these sets are very close together. 1 minute breaks between weight change. I also list in order of how I do it exactly

    25's (15x) wu
    55's (6x)
    45's (10x)
    25's (15x)

    preacher curls -easy bar
    65lbs. immediately following db curls
    6x (slow & controlled)

    Tricep-skull crushers -3 min breaks
    65lb. easy bar 15x, 18x, 12x
    85lb. easy bar 7x, 5x
    65lb. easy bar 12x

    Standing DB Curls
    55's (6x)
    45's (10x)
    35's (10x)
    25's (15x)

    standing easy bar curls-
    65lbs 20x, 10x

    Excellent pump today. I get really really red during workout. I also get light headed aftyer each set. I'm takin' in plenty of water and carbs. Everythings feelin' really good. No increase in strength yet still. Sides are not noticeable at all.
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    diet needs some work
    i can pick that sh*t apart and give you a reeeaaaally long winded post on how to make it better.

    i'm very experienced with dieting. you should be before touching steroids IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibanezman08 View Post
    diet needs some work
    i can pick that sh*t apart and give you a reeeaaaally long winded post on how to make it better.

    i'm very experienced with dieting. you should be before touching steroids IMO.
    in what areas exactly? my diet treated me very well when i ran havoc. I've always had a great diet. I'm up for suggestions.

    typical day
    6am-5 eggs & 1/2 cup steel cut oats
    9am-2 tbs. natty pb & 2 peices whole grain toast
    11am-veggies & apple
    1130-40gram protein shake & 1/2 cup ground oats
    12-workout
    1pm-chicken, beef or fish 12oz with veggie
    3pm-protein shake (same as above)
    5pm-heavy protein dinner with sweet potatoe
    7pm-carb meal
    9pm-cottage cheese (1 cup)

    I'm right at 10% bodyfat and have always been careful about diet. What parts do you suggest I work on. I consider this a great gainer diet and all foods are clean. Is it timing? Please let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angel77 View Post
    in what areas exactly? my diet treated me very well when i ran havoc. I've always had a great diet. I'm up for suggestions.

    typical day
    6am-5 eggs & 1/2 cup steel cut oats
    9am-2 tbs. natty pb & 2 peices whole grain toast
    11am-veggies & apple
    1130-40gram protein shake & 1/2 cup ground oats
    12-workout
    1pm-chicken, beef or fish 12oz with veggie
    3pm-protein shake (same as above)
    5pm-heavy protein dinner with sweet potatoe
    7pm-carb meal
    9pm-cottage cheese (1 cup)

    I'm under 10% bodyfat and have always been careful about diet. What parts do you suggest I work on. I consider this a great gainer diet and all foods are clean. Is it timing? Please let me know.
    fine........i'll do it......i'm just lazy that's all........here goes........

    i'll list them in order of meals. things i see that are in my opinion, not great.

    1st thing i see is 5 eggs and i think about you being on superdrol. that's a lot of cholesterol. 1 egg is about 80mg of cholesterol. the protein is good but having 5 eggs everyday on superdrol is just asking for it. i mean, you're lipids are going to get messed up anyway but this will only make it worse. i'd eat 8 eggwhites and 1 yolk max. 2 yolks if you only eat eggs twice a week or less. but for everyday, 1 yolk max. keep in mind, these are all my opinions only.

    you need a bit more carbs/calories that early in the morning. remember, you've fasted for the night so you've been catabolic for a while now.

    most of your fat intake should be a little bit at breakfast, and at your last meal. the rest of the day, try to limit your fat intake because that will only delay the digestion of nutrients you need.

    at 9am, you need protein!!!

    if you're working out at 12, eat your oats at 10:30 or so. oats are slow digesting carbs and they don't have enough time to convert to glucose in 30 min.

    immediately post-workout you NEED fast digesting carbs to combat cortizol and also to deliver protein faster. this is a MUST!

    lastly, superdrol has the ability to store carbs in the form of glycogen. you might need to up your carb intake.

    that's my short version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibanezman08 View Post
    fine........i'll do it......i'm just lazy that's all........here goes........

    i'll list them in order of meals. things i see that are in my opinion, not great.

    1st thing i see is 5 eggs and i think about you being on superdrol. that's a lot of cholesterol. 1 egg is about 80mg of cholesterol. the protein is good but having 5 eggs everyday on superdrol is just asking for it. i mean, you're lipids are going to get messed up anyway but this will only make it worse. i'd eat 8 eggwhites and 1 yolk max. 2 yolks if you only eat eggs twice a week or less. but for everyday, 1 yolk max. keep in mind, these are all my opinions only.

    you need a bit more carbs/calories that early in the morning. remember, you've fasted for the night so you've been catabolic for a while now.

    most of your fat intake should be a little bit at breakfast, and at your last meal. the rest of the day, try to limit your fat intake because that will only delay the digestion of nutrients you need.

    at 9am, you need protein!!!

    if you're working out at 12, eat your oats at 10:30 or so. oats are slow digesting carbs and they don't have enough time to convert to glucose in 30 min.

    immediately post-workout you NEED fast digesting carbs to combat cortizol and also to deliver protein faster. this is a MUST!

    lastly, superdrol has the ability to store carbs in the form of glycogen. you might need to up your carb intake.

    that's my short version.
    thanks so much bro. I appreciate it. I wish some of the other cats would chime in. I was under the assumption that the cholesterol in the eggs was good on cycle. I never usally eat the yolks either but for bulking I thought it would help. I completely understand what you mean. I know Super kills the lipids anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angel77 View Post
    thanks so much bro. I appreciate it. I wish some of the other cats would chime in. I was under the assumption that the cholesterol in the eggs was good on cycle. I never usally eat the yolks either but for bulking I thought it would help. I completely understand what you mean. I know Super kills the lipids anyway.

    I pretty much agree with what ibanez said, to a T. I would consider making all of your oat serving a whole cup. You'll need the extra carbs. Also, cereal bars make a convenient post wo meal with a way shake. I take two special k bars with me, eat those, and then slam a whey shake on my way out of the gym. Also agree with the eggs. 1 egg has over 100% of your daily cholesterol needs. You can buy the pure whites at any store, and mix them with 1 whole egg.
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    1/2 cup of oats is nothing anyway...bump that sh1t
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    Exclamation WORKOUT DAY 8 -20MG


    Good workout today. Pumps were great and muscles really hard. No strength gains yet but weight still climbing.

    db rows-
    70's-12x
    12x
    85's-6x
    70's-10x
    8x
    85's- 4x
    70's-6x
    5x
    6x

    bent over -easy bar rows
    65lbs. 10x, 10x

    reverse dips-shoulders/triceps/back
    10x
    10x
    12x
    10x
    10x

    As I said, really good workout, size is up, strength isn't yet. Still patiently waiting.

    I appreciate the help guys. I adjusted my egg yolk intake and my timing for carbs pre-post workout. Cheers, angel77
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    I've seen studies that show the cholesterol in eggs does not raise your cholesterol level. I eat them as I see fit and it never chages mine. And I get blood work done every month to 3 months. If anyone has studies that show otherwise I want to see them. You may can find studies that show both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    I've seen studies that show the cholesterol in eggs does not raise your cholesterol level. I eat them as I see fit and it never chages mine. And I get blood work done every month to 3 months. If anyone has studies that show otherwise I want to see them. You may can find studies that show both.
    you are correct, the cholesterol in eggs doesn't affect your serum cholesterol, its the saturated fats in them that can. Keep in mind that a moderately high serum cholesterol is not a bad thing in and of itself as that is the basic building block your body uses to create hormones. Too low a serum cholesterol means low testosterone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    you are correct, the cholesterol in eggs doesn't affect your serum cholesterol, its the saturated fats in them that can. Keep in mind that a moderately high serum cholesterol is not a bad thing in and of itself as that is the basic building block your body uses to create hormones. Too low a serum cholesterol means low testosterone...
    Thanks for chiming in easy. I appreciate the heads up. You as well DG806! I was thinkning the there was more to the cholesterol story than I was getting. I'll do a little research on it. The SAT FAT issue makes much more sense.
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    Yeah if you limit you sat fats in other areas of your diet, you will be fine.
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    it's the same as everything.

    500mg of sodium is a lot of sodium to have in one meal.

    but if you have almost no sodium throughout the day besides, that, it's not all that unhealthy at all IMO.
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    Thumbs up libido is UP!


    One thing I have noticed for sure is that libido is definately up. I'm strokin' it the damn office bathroom on a daily basis. Is this a common deal with Superdrol? Havoc KILLED my libido. I want the damn strength gains. All I've gotten thus far is weight. Mad glycogen!!! Cheers, angel77
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    Thumbs up day 9


    Thinking of bumping up to 30mg today. I'm gaining weight quick but no strength gains at all. I know it's still early but I'm seeing no sides either. Mainly weight gain and definately testicular shrinkage. Libido is still up. Workout was good. Nothing special. I killed shoulders.

    SEATED INCLINE DB SHOULDER PRESS
    25'S (15X) WU

    SEATED BB SHOULDER PRESS
    65LBS-15X
    85LBS-15X
    85LBS-15X
    85LBS-12X
    85LBS-10X
    85LBS-15X
    85LBS-12X

    SEATED DB SHOULDER PRESS
    35'S (10X) THIS WAS A SUPERSET.

    I feel like I have more stamina, good pump, size is increasing on a daily basis. I know this isn't all lean mass but putting on the weight like this is encouraging. I NEED the strength to follow. Cheers until next time........
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    alot of people say superdrol isnt great for strength gains and more for just building muscle. I would hold off on the 30mg, wait for about day 15 then re-evaluate then. Be patient, bumping the dosage up will also increase sides and possible complications. If you are making gains then its all good bro!

    Libido on compounds is really strange, some have it on certain compounds and some dont on others there is really no telling.
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    exactly libido on compounds varies from person to person drastically, for me Superdrol is way up and just about everything else makes it go just slightly down (usually towards the end).

    for strength gains i feel like the 2nd time I work something I can notice a minor strength boost and it just keeps getting better and better. Superdrol caused the biggest strength gains in my benchpress, but that's really just genetic because I have a massive chest but bench wussy weight... SD brings my strength up to what it should be.
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    Well, very nice relaxing weekend with the family. Mediocre diet. Didn't eat alot but ate very clean. My weight is up to a consistent 201 lbs. Nothing major but I do feel fuller. I usually never lift over the weekend at all. I do situps and push ups only. I can't wait to see if strength is up tomorrow when I bench. It's how I measure.
    I would have to say I don't feel much at all. No negative sides other than my testicle shrinkage (expected). my heart rate goes up about an hour after ingestion for a while but not a real potent rush or anything. I want to gain mad strength on this stuff. I wasn't really expecting alot of size since it's supposed to be dry for the most part. I've heard so much about impressive strength gains on Superdrol and since my post two have chimed in about how they didn't get good strength gains. I know it's still early in the cycle. I won't hit 2 full weeks until Thursday. Damn, I'm such an impatient bastard. I guess I figured that because Superdrol is so much more potent and fast acting I'd be seeing gains in strength right away. The weight is what came first.
    I'll check in tomorrow.
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    Strength gains didn't start kicking in until the end of the 2nd week. Just be patient. And as PistonPump said, don't bump it up to 30mg's yet...More is not always better. And the reason you probably gained so much weight right off the bat, is because you just came off of a cut.

    What are you taking for PCT? Hopefully Nolva and/or clomid, since there's noticeable shrinkage of the balls. I didn't notice any while I was on, but I took Nolva for PCT just because that was my plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    a little overboard with the p5p and vitex imo. The whole superdrol prolactin thing, eh, seems kinda blown up imo. I think i remember reading when prolactin goes down estro goes up so that could explain why some people have problems when they are taking all this prolactin side precautions. Dont let me foil the plan tho, i could be wrong.

    Post workout only a protien shake then a meal 2 hours later? I think you need more right after your workout, 2hr is too long to wait for a meal post wo imo.

    how long you running it?

    bloodwork from my pplex mdrol bridge shows a drop in E2 7 points and a rise in prolactin (gotta look at how signifigant the rise is)
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    Weight always increases before strength bro i'd say it's coming soon, and if the sides are low then good, and if your libido is up then you're responding better to it than most people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbachew View Post
    Strength gains didn't start kicking in until the end of the 2nd week. Just be patient. And as PistonPump said, don't bump it up to 30mg's yet...More is not always better. And the reason you probably gained so much weight right off the bat, is because you just came off of a cut.

    What are you taking for PCT? Hopefully Nolva and/or clomid, since there's noticeable shrinkage of the balls. I didn't notice any while I was on, but I took Nolva for PCT just because that was my plan.
    Yeah, Clomid and 6XO for PCT. I'm thinking of jumping on 6XO during last week of dosing Superdrol to try and reach homeostasis as quickly as possible to keep gains. Just enough to help jump start some free test. I'll start Clomid at 75mg for the 1st week and drop to 50 for 2 weeks and 25 for the last. I definately have shrinkage already. Expected..

    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealMachine View Post
    Weight always increases before strength bro i'd say it's coming soon, and if the sides are low then good, and if your libido is up then you're responding better to it than most people.
    I'm hoping so bro. My balls have shrank, libido is up. I'm pretty sure I've gained some fat but that's expected as well. I don't feel bad at all. Can't wait to bench tomorrow. Cheers..
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    libido on superdrol was up in the first week for me.
    after that, it just went downhill just about zero towards the end.

    clomid brought it back within' days durring pct though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angel77 View Post
    Yeah, Clomid and 6XO for PCT. I'm thinking of jumping on 6XO during last week of dosing Superdrol to try and reach homeostasis as quickly as possible to keep gains. Just enough to help jump start some free test. I'll start Clomid at 75mg for the 1st week and drop to 50 for 2 weeks and 25 for the last. I definately have shrinkage already. Expected..



    I'm hoping so bro. My balls have shrank, libido is up. I'm pretty sure I've gained some fat but that's expected as well. I don't feel bad at all. Can't wait to bench tomorrow. Cheers..


    My libido was up throughout my entire cycle of Superdrol until I went into PCT, then I couldn't even get it up until a week after my PCT was done. Be prepared for anything, because anything could happen.

    Everybody reacts differently.
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    i thought there were pics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbachew View Post
    My libido was up throughout my entire cycle of Superdrol until I went into PCT, then I couldn't even get it up until a week after my PCT was done. Be prepared for anything, because anything could happen.

    Everybody reacts differently.
    I completely expect to shut down. Havoc shut me down and it was a month before I could get a solid hard on after cycle. I used Nolva. I'm going 100% Clomid this run. This is another reason I'm starting a small dose AI last week of cycle to kick start some test quick. I also have this low budget brand product called Libido Max. I p/u at K-Mart. It's got Trib, Maca, L-Arginine, the works. It's all Natty & works great. I'll run that if need be. I'm not going kitchen sink at all PCT. Simple & sweet. Clomid and 6XO period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    i thought there were pics?
    I know Piston my bad. I've been a procrastinator. I'll up some tonight. I have a post cycle pic from my Havoc Run a month or so back. I'll also up one from today so you'll all know where I'm at now day 12. I'm running 20mg at this point. I will update later today. Cheers, angel77
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    day 12- pictures


    Sorry so late on the pics. These are current pics day 12. I have to find my pre-cycle pics. Not much different. Just leaner. I'm weighing in at 201 consistently now and climbing every day. I was 190 pre-cycle.







    Bumped it to 30mg on Sunday. Didn't sleep good but I was counting on it giving me trouble for a few days until my body adjusts.

    Good workout today. I have a gym at work and today I had a customer come in during lunch so it was a bit rushed which I didn't like at all but strength is UP!
    I tied my personal best today benching 265. I know it's not much but I struggle in that area. Pecs aren't small just can't push a ton of weight? I'm working on it. I gained 35lbs on my bench & lost 10lbs after PCT from my Havoc cycle and I made up for it in 12 days on Superdrol.
    DAY12chest- 30mg
    Flat Bench-BB
    135 (15x) wu
    225 (1x)
    245 (1x)
    265 (1x) tied my PR
    275 (-) failed (I'll get it next week for sure
    270 (-) failed (I burned out tryin 275)
    225 (4x)
    225 (4x)
    225 (4x)
    225 (3x)
    135 (superset) (21x)

    I felt really good in the weight room today. This stuff is kicking in nicely and not many sides at all to report. I had alot more stamina today. I could have went on for more sets for sure. I'm doing my DB flys after I finish typing this. Cheers, angel77
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    I'm not trying to insult you but your really not training correctly to make good strength gains your moving to quick betwwen set and have to much volume if you want to get strong on a short cycle you should try 5x5 or something
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    Quote Originally Posted by angel77 View Post
    One thing I have noticed for sure is that libido is definately up. I'm strokin' it the damn office bathroom on a daily basis. Is this a common deal with Superdrol? Havoc KILLED my libido. I want the damn strength gains. All I've gotten thus far is weight. Mad glycogen!!! Cheers, angel77
    mine went up for the first 3-5 days then plumitted for a month to two months. im talking 0. the volume of semen was almost nothing. it dribbled a bit n stopped. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by chess315 View Post
    I'm not trying to insult you but your really not training correctly to make good strength gains your moving to quick betwwen set and have to much volume if you want to get strong on a short cycle you should try 5x5 or something

    noted, thanks alot man......
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    day 13 30mg


    good diet and good arm workout.

    standing db curls
    25's (15x) wu
    55's (8x, 8x, 8x, 6x, 6x) 2-3 minute breaks

    standing ez bar curl
    95lb ,10x

    flat bench ez bar skull crushers
    95lbs -8x, 8x, 8x, 8x, 8x

    ez bar preacher curl
    75lbs 10x-slow and they were painful

    Great pump today. Felt great all the way around. A little sensitive nip action goin' on. Not sure if anyones taken small dose of arimadex while on Super before. Anybody?? I'm taking 200mg p5p and 800mg vitex. I guess caber would be my next purchase? cheers, angel77
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    weight correction!!!!!!!


    I have been making a big error as far as calculating my weight when using the ez bar. I thought it was 15lbs not 25lbs. So, my skull crushers I've been doing are 95lbs and preacher curls 85lbs. This is a good mistake. I'd rather be doing more than less. Also, I love how people compare Smith machine bench to free weight. NOT EVEN CLOSE!! I max out at 265lbs free weight and I was doing 305 on Smith Machine. Definately a difference. The bar is not even close to as heavy as 45bb.

    Today is legs. Can't wait.
  

  
 

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