New England Patriots

**Iron Warrior** · 11-04-2007, 11:47 PM

That was a good game. I can't believe the Colts lost a 20-10 lead in the 4th quarter, at home ! This game could very well be the one that determines who gets home field advantage throughout the play-offs.

**OCCFan023** · 11-05-2007, 07:12 AM

It was interesting to see the vaunted NE offense finally grounded just a tad. In all reality the reason the Pats won that game was that there D made the plays they had too. Manning's two INTs were HUGE (even if one was returned by Brady that had to be a momentum breaker and confidence shaker.) With 2:40 left and 2 T/O I was expecting Manning to drive down the field.

That was a classic game of both excellent offenses and defenses (speed defenses are awesome to watch like the colts.) Another positive is picking the Colts with the point spread in my Pick Em league w00t!

Fastone · 11-05-2007, 02:19 PM

The difference in the game was Randy Moss. When it came down to it, the Colts had no answer for him. Good game, lived up to the hype.

zbtboy · 11-05-2007, 02:22 PM

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The difference in the game was Randy Moss. When it came down to it, the Colts had no answer for him. Good game, lived up to the hype.

When he plays hard, no matter what team he's on, he's unstoppable. The pats have been a good team for players like him..see Corey Dillon.

larue38462 · 11-07-2007, 06:26 AM

Revenge will be great for the horseshoes my friends. The absence of Marvin Harrison seemed to me like it was a little much as the offense didn't play close to as well as it can (with the exception of joe)

**Trauma1** · 11-07-2007, 07:19 AM

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Revenge will be great for the horseshoes my friends. The absence of Marvin Harrison seemed to me like it was a little much as the offense didn't play close to as well as it can (with the exception of joe)

How about all the years brady beat the colts with "average" receivers that certainly weren't marvin harrison status. Harrison played in those games and they still lost. Sounds like an excuse to me, but the truth of the matter is that good teams find ways to win.....

Fastone · 11-07-2007, 07:24 PM

You know it's funny, if not for Willie McGinnest (sp) in 2001 we might be having a totally different conversation now.

earlyriser73 · 11-07-2007, 10:50 PM

Im bias, but the new offensive philosophies for both teams just might work in the favour of the Colts come January in Foxboro if it happens. The Colts have proved they can play smashmouth football and the Pats are now the kings of aerial assault.

Sure it wasnt snowing like those years ago but the Colts have won the last two meetings at NE and it was pretty cold on those nights!

larue38462 · 11-08-2007, 12:09 AM

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How about all the years brady beat the colts with "average" receivers that certainly weren't marvin harrison status. Harrison played in those games and they still lost. Sounds like an excuse to me, but the truth of the matter is that good teams find ways to win.....

How about all those years that the Pats edged the Colts while the Colts played with one of the 5 worst defensive units in the league. You can pick and choose your battles. The Colts had a great offense in those days while the Pats certainly had a top 3 defensive team. The Colts now have a defense and all I'm sayin is that Marvin opens up a new game and leaves a linebacker covering Dallas Clark and opens up the field for Reggie Wayne. I won't make excuses, the Pats won fair and square, but anyone who knows anything about this matchup knows that the presence of Marvin Harrison alone totally changes the strategy of both teams while Indy has the ball.

earlyriser73 · 11-08-2007, 01:40 AM

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How about all those years that the Pats edged the Colts while the Colts played with one of the 5 worst defensive units in the league. You can pick and choose your battles. The Colts had a great offense in those days while the Pats certainly had a top 3 defensive team. The Colts now have a defense and all I'm sayin is that Marvin opens up a new game and leaves a linebacker covering Dallas Clark and opens up the field for Reggie Wayne. I won't make excuses, the Pats won fair and square, but anyone who knows anything about this matchup knows that the presence of Marvin Harrison alone totally changes the strategy of both teams while Indy has the ball.

Good point, no way Rodney Harrison covers Dallas Clark all game again when Marvin is healthy.

**Iron Warrior** · 11-08-2007, 02:25 AM

I'm not a Colts or Patriots fan but I can't wait until they play in the AFC Championship game, aka the real Super Bowl.

Fastone · 11-08-2007, 03:40 AM

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I'm not a Colts or Patriots fan but I can't wait until they play in the AFC Championship game, aka the real Super Bowl.

I love assumptions, let's talk about this in 4 weeks. Things could be different

larue38462 · 11-10-2007, 02:00 AM

I agree....I can't say for sure that the Colts will get to the AFC Championship game. I hate the pats w/ a passion, but I must admit they're the most potent and well rounded team to play in the NFL in any season that I've witnessed.

celc5 · 11-10-2007, 10:37 PM

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Revenge will be great for the horseshoes my friends. The absence of Marvin Harrison seemed to me like it was a little much as the offense didn't play close to as well as it can (with the exception of joe)

Good point man... you could tell Peyton ran out of options in the second half when Gonzalez went down as well.

In response to the whoever said Brady was good even with mediocre receivers in the past (not the exact words but it was implied), I disagree. MOST of those guys went on to get big contracts on other teams so someone thought those guys were better than mediocre. IMO they were the fastest set of recievers in the league. Take away 2 of any QB's top 4 receivers and his options will certainly be limited.

How long ago was this game? Must've been a good one if we're still discussing it... Fastone, you instigated some good discussion with this thread bro!

**Trauma1** · 11-30-2007, 02:13 AM

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Good point man... you could tell
In response to the whoever said Brady was good even with mediocre receivers in the past (not the exact words but it was implied), I disagree. MOST of those guys went on to get big contracts on other teams so someone thought those guys were better than mediocre. IMO they were the fastest set of recievers in the league. Take away 2 of any QB's top 4 receivers and his options will certainly be limited.

I said it and no offense but give me a break bro. The fastest receivers in the league? I think not. They were decent but certainly not a wayne or harrison. Face the facts that when manning didn't have his probowl receivers to throw to he looked as mortal as any average quarterback in pro football. Peyton is good, but brady has a calm leadership demeanor to him that manning can't touch in this lifetime....plus the best part is he NEVER beat the gators haha!

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