Who is the best HW boxer in the last 25 years?

texxlnghorn · 07-25-2007, 12:35 PM

Ok, Marcino is out of the debate then.
So the best H.W. since 1982.
I'll take Tyson, the day he beat Spinks in 90 seconds.

Here you go so you can get your facts straight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennox_Lewis

Vitali Klitschko was leading on all 3 score cards.

**PumpingIron** · 07-25-2007, 01:16 PM

I'm ina huge toss up between Holyfield and Tyson...

**Iron Warrior** · 07-25-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PumpingIron

I'm ina huge toss up between Holyfield and Tyson...

It's also hearsay that Tyson wanted to avoid Holyfield in 1991 so if that helps then go with the Real Deal

Only thing where Holyfield f'ed up is by boxing past his prime. The dude has f'ing slurred speech and lost to John Ruiz which should have been the wake up call. I still think that's better then Tyson who lost to an unknown Irish boxer in his last fight.

Alexander · 07-25-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by texxlnghorn

Ok, Marcino is out of the debate then.
So the best H.W. since 1982.
I'll take Tyson, the day he beat Spinks in 90 seconds.

Here you go so you can get your facts straight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennox_Lewis

Vitali Klitschko was leading on all 3 score cards.

Give up buddy. Quit trying to act like I was wrong. You were wrong on all counts, now man up. Get my facts straight, what are you even talking about. You said Klitschko retired Lennox. How do you retire somebody by losing to them?

texxlnghorn · 07-25-2007, 05:06 PM

Lewis retired after that fight.
Watch the fight Vitali didnt want to stop the fight. The ref. stopped the fight.

Losing on all 3 score cards seems like your losing.

How about we take a vote?

Besides Vitali is coming back after back surgery.
Lewis can get a chance to prove it was a fluke he was getting his butt beat.

texxlnghorn · 07-25-2007, 05:09 PM

I agree with tyson losing to some lousy irsh man. Thats why you have to take Tyson in his early 20's.

texxlnghorn · 07-25-2007, 05:12 PM

You can make the same argument with Evander.
Beating Big Lou..not impressive

Losing to Luiz...bad

tyson vs. holyfield in their prime would have been a great fight.

texxlnghorn · 07-25-2007, 05:20 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennox_Lewis

We will let everyone read this and see what they say.

read Lewis vs. Klitschko
read Hanging Up the Gloves

Alexander · 07-25-2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by texxlnghorn

Lewis retired after that fight.
Watch the fight Vitali didnt want to stop the fight. The ref. stopped the fight.

Losing on all 3 score cards seems like your losing.

How about we take a vote?

Besides Vitali is coming back after back surgery.
Lewis can get a chance to prove it was a fluke he was getting his butt beat.

Retiring someone requires actually winning and usually in devastating fashion. He WAS losing the fight, but he ended up winning, and hurting Klitschko in the 6th round. I doubt Lewis is going to come back to boxing. I don't think he has the desire, and he is way out of shape. Let's kill the whole Lewis/Klitschko thing.

Tyson's talent was undeniable, but looking at Lennox's record, and then at Tyson's, it's hard to say Tyson was better over the last 25 years. He surely had the potential, but he f*cked up.

**PumpingIron** · 07-26-2007, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexander

Retiring someone requires actually winning and usually in devastating fashion. He WAS losing the fight, but he ended up winning, and hurting Klitschko in the 6th round. I doubt Lewis is going to come back to boxing. I don't think he has the desire, and he is way out of shape. Let's kill the whole Lewis/Klitschko thing.

Tyson's talent was undeniable, but looking at Lennox's record, and then at Tyson's, it's hard to say Tyson was better over the last 25 years. He surely had the potential, but he f*cked up.

I think this question, when distinguished between who was the best boxer at the utmost of his prime and who has had the best career, in the past 25 years you come up with three names:

Tyson
Holyfield
Lewis

Tyson, IMO could beat ANYONE (Ali included) when he was around 20-22 years old. Making him the best fighter in his prime.

When you talk about best careers, Lewis wins hands down. There is no disputing that.

Holyfield was more of a combonation of the two. He has had a great career, was amazing in his prime, but as of recent, he is too old and continues to fight, which puts a damper on his legacy.

Agreed...?...?...?...

**pistonpump** · 07-26-2007, 10:46 AM

id agree with that PI.

**Iron Warrior** · 07-26-2007, 02:37 PM

To be fair, if Tyson did fight Holyfield when they were both at their prime then Tyson would have probably won. Holyfield would have to move up from 190 to fight Tyson and I don't think he would have been able to withstand Tyson's power since A) He would've been brand new to the heavyweight division and B) Tyson was KO machine at that point in his career.

Alexander · 07-26-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PumpingIron

I think this question, when distinguished between who was the best boxer at the utmost of his prime and who has had the best career, in the past 25 years you come up with three names:

Tyson
Holyfield
Lewis

Tyson, IMO could beat ANYONE (Ali included) when he was around 20-22 years old. Making him the best fighter in his prime.

When you talk about best careers, Lewis wins hands down. There is no disputing that.

Holyfield was more of a combonation of the two. He has had a great career, was amazing in his prime, but as of recent, he is too old and continues to fight, which puts a damper on his legacy.

Agreed...?...?...?...

I agree 100%.

texxlnghorn · 07-27-2007, 06:36 PM

alexand well drop the lewis vs. vitali debate.
but here are the facts.

Instead, Lewis fought Vitali Klitschko, the WBC's No. 1 contender and former WBO titlist. Lewis had planned to fight him in December, but since Klitschko had been on the undercard of the Johnson fight anyway, they agreed to square off on June 21. Lewis entered the ring at a career high 256 1/2 pounds.[8] For the first time in his career, Lewis was shoved around the ring by an equally strong fighter and was dominated much of the fight, being wobbled in round two. However, Lewis gave a better showing in the fifth and sixth rounds, with Klitschko himself badly hurt by an uppercut in round six. Before the start of round seven, with Klitschko ahead on all three scorecards, the ringside doctor stopped the fight due to a severe cut above Klitschko's left eye. Lewis was awarded the win by TKO. The likely winner of this fight, had it continued, has been a subject of popular debate ever since.

Agree Tyson vs. Holyfield in there prime in the past 25 years.

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