College Football Pre-Season 2007
- 08-01-2007, 10:20 PM
- 08-02-2007, 02:15 PM
BTW, it's not just the PAC-10 but also the BIG-10 that will pull out. The 2 conferences would rather play in the Rose Bowl then be a part of the "plus one" system.
IMO, there will still be much controversy with the plus one system because not enough team are incorporated therefore you'll have plenty of teams *****!ing and moaning about how they got robbed.
08-02-2007, 06:26 PM
I'm not hiding my affiliations and favs anymore, The SEC gets my attention here this year.MMA has put me behind in my study of who has what strengths and weaknesses.
I do know that Auburn is breaking in four new starting OLs, but they were lousy last year in pass protection with upperclassmen, and they will have four lesser D games to tuneup on before going to the Swamp, so maybe that's a non issue.
The Plus One system would/will be the best we will get for the foreseeable future, too much old institutional resistance to the playoff concept.
08-03-2007, 09:28 PM
Yes - Tubbs was the DC under Jimmy Johnson.
IW - let's take baby steps. A plus one is a baby step to an 8 team playoff.
I disagree with your assessment of the *****ing and moaning with a plus one.
Now - the *****ing is with a #2 (2003) or #3 ('04). In the future - it will be a #5 or #6.
I do agree someone will ***** about being robbed in the plus one. However - I think the degree of reason said team(s) have to ***** becomes MUCH MUCH less than today's BCS system.
And - no more split titles. No more of this stupid LSU/USC crap.
(Totally stupid, IMO, on the part of LSU fans.)
Something else to consider is that there's a good chance the 7th and 8th teams in to a playoff would have 2 losses.
Now - they might win, that's the spirit of a playoff, but I certainly don't want a 2 loss Notre Lame team with a chance at a national title.
08-04-2007, 01:42 AM
OTOH, you have Florida ranked #1 and Miami ranked # 4. Let's assume they play in the Orange Bowl and Miami squeaks by Florida 24-21.
Who would be crowned as the National Champion since the Rose Bowl winner is not in the mix ? You could potentially have Miami play Florida the "plus one" game if they're the 2 highest remaining seeds since Michigan and Cal are out by default. This would sure be the case if the likes of Boise St., Utah, or TCU would somehow be ranked # 5 since they wouldn't be as likely to let those teams play for the big one. Just a thought that entered my analytical mind
08-04-2007, 12:37 PM
If both polls are tied to the Plus One - then UM takes the MNC.
If one poll pulls out (as we have now with the AP poll) - then you may end up with a split title.
It's not 100% clear in my mind that Cal ends up #1 anywhere as Miami's win would be more impressive (over the #1 ranked team). But - that is an aside.
Under the scenario proposed - a definite chance at a split title.
HOWEVER - that is contingent on the AP poll staying out of the BCS.
With as many writers as I've seen wax poetic on the need for some form of a playoff - it's really, really, really hard for me to think their poll will not be tied to the Plus One champ.
That would be hypocritical.
BTW - the romanticism with the Rose Bowl is stupid in my mind.
Maybe in the past it had some mystic meaning.
Now - I don't think it's really different than any other bowl (in this BCS era).
It's certainly not guaranteed to be the 2nd best match-up (when it's not the championship).
A lot of times the Rose isn't so hot of a match-up - because they'll by-pass a better team for the #2 Big 10 or Pac 10 team (if the #1 ends up in the championship game).
Sorry - I just don't think pulling out of the Plus One just to keep some sacred Rose match-up makes a sh*t-bit of sense.
"That makes about as much sense as wiping before you poop." - Larry the Cable Guy.
08-08-2007, 05:41 PM
08-08-2007, 07:17 PM
08-08-2007, 10:39 PM
LSU won't dominate.
They have Boobie Miles as the Head Coach.
We all know he'll get too conservative on a big game this year and lose.
(ALA Auburn last year or Tennessee in '05.)
It's a Miles tradition. He's only a good coach when the big time pressure of a national title is off.
Go ahead and pencil in one regular season loss. (Maybe VaTech - they have much, much better special teams than LSU.)
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