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  1. Quote Originally Posted by fame126 View Post
    go chiefs!!! Eric Fischer
    learn how to spell his name!
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by ryane87 View Post
    Dude the Jets are going to be a train wreck with a dumpster fire going on each car.
    giants are always a decent team in a tough division. they are unpredictable but always play teams hard.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    giants are always a decent team in a tough division. they are unpredictable but always play teams hard.
    I hear that! even though they only won like 7 games or so last year they beat the pants off of my 49ers!
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  4. Who thinks chip Kelly's offense will work in the NFl? I'm a fan of the no huddle spread

  5. Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrawler View Post
    Who thinks chip Kelly's offense will work in the NFl? I'm a fan of the no huddle spread
    patriots do an up tempo no huddle alot. works for them. this offense is that x 10 but think about it. the defense cant rotate players, change the look...etc if the offense is running a play every 10 seconds. the eagles will look to the sideline for sign cards or hand motions and line up and go. all about mismatches.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrawler View Post
    Who thinks chip Kelly's offense will work in the NFl? I'm a fan of the no huddle spread
    You have to have the right QB to run that kind of O. I know M.V is an athlete but I dont think he has the ability to run that kind of offence any more. In his younger days yes but his mobility and line protection both are suspect esp with the injuries he has taken over the past couple of years
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    You have to have the right QB to run that kind of O. I know M.V is an athlete but I dont think he has the ability to run that kind of offence any more. In his younger days yes but his mobility and line protection both are suspect esp with the injuries he has taken over the past couple of years
    the eagles will have one of, if not THE best O line in the NFL this year. his mobility is not what it was, but its still top 3 of qb's in the NFL. and chip doesnt need a mobile qb to run the offense. he didnt have a mobile qb all 4 years at oregon.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    the eagles will have one of, if not THE best O line in the NFL this year. his mobility is not what it was, but its still top 3 of qb's in the NFL. and chip doesnt need a mobile qb to run the offense. he didnt have a mobile qb all 4 years at oregon.
    If they can stay healthy they should be good I wouldnt say the best. And I do believe that Philly spent more time this off season working on their D. Chip wants and needs a QB that makes quick decisions and Vick isnt it. I do think he has a SOLID offence and I believe it is one of the better packages out there but I dont think he has the tools he needs to make it successful. Now I hate Payton and Denver but I think that team has the perfect parts for Chip's O
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by ryane87 View Post

    Are you saying that with enthusiasm because you are a Jets fan or are you excited he is just going to be out?
    Both. Lol

  10. Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    If they can stay healthy they should be good I wouldnt say the best. And I do believe that Philly spent more time this off season working on their D. Chip wants and needs a QB that makes quick decisions and Vick isnt it. I do think he has a SOLID offence and I believe it is one of the better packages out there but I dont think he has the tools he needs to make it successful. Now I hate Payton and Denver but I think that team has the perfect parts for Chip's O

    What makes u think he doesn't make quick decisions? U understand reid and co. made the reciever routes much longer and deeper so vick had to hold it longer
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  11. I think vick will do fairly well in this offense if he can stay healthy. just imagine vick in his early years runnin this type of offense.. BEAST

  12. Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrawler View Post
    I think vick will do fairly well in this offense if he can stay healthy. just imagine vick in his early years runnin this type of offense.. BEAST
    key is staying healthy. im a big fan of foles though. he had a terrible line last year and did decent. even when andy wouldnt run the ball.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrawler View Post
    I think vick will do fairly well in this offense if he can stay healthy. just imagine vick in his early years runnin this type of offense.. BEAST
    Early in his years yes but I think we can all agree he has lost a step or two. He is still one of the better qbs in the league but I didnt think he has ability to be an ageless QB like Manning or Brady, both of whom I have no allegiance to but have to respect their craft. He is still a great mobile qb but he relies too much on his former athletics when he should be focusing on how to be a better pocket QB and learning how to really efficiently hone is his cannon.
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  14. Couldn't agree more, I really think they only use the read option on in the redzone. Vick has a cannon for an arm but doesn't utilize it

  15. Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrawler View Post
    Couldn't agree more, I really think they only use the read option on in the redzone. Vick has a cannon for an arm but doesn't utilize it
    Or in some cases, over-utilizes it. ie; no touch haha

  16. If they over utilize it then he will most defiantly get hurt then comes in files or Barkley and the gameplan will need tweaking

  17. Foles... Damn iphone

  18. Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    Early in his years yes but I think we can all agree he has lost a step or two. He is still one of the better qbs in the league but I didnt think he has ability to be an ageless QB like Manning or Brady, both of whom I have no allegiance to but have to respect their craft. He is still a great mobile qb but he relies too much on his former athletics when he should be focusing on how to be a better pocket QB and learning how to really efficiently hone is his cannon.

    no disrespect to your opinion but if you watch the All-22 film on eagles games, you will notice the plays were making vick hold the ball longer. longer routes for the receivers...etc plus a HORRIBLE injured O line = no protection/time. if you give vick time, i would take vick over almost any qb in the league besides brady and rodgers.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post

    no disrespect to your opinion but if you watch the All-22 film on eagles games, you will notice the plays were making vick hold the ball longer. longer routes for the receivers...etc plus a HORRIBLE injured O line = no protection/time. if you give vick time, i would take vick over almost any qb in the league besides brady and rodgers.
    Um no, right now at least 10 other qbs easily before Vick. Not only his healthy but his decision making are questionable, Kelly's offense will require that. There is a reason he won't be there after this year. Your arguement he had to hold the ball longer would work if he wasn't a mobile qb. His age is also working against him, his career span will be more like a McNair or McNabb than an elway or manning.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post

    Um no, right now at least 10 other qbs easily before Vick. Not only his healthy but his decision making are questionable, Kelly's offense will require that. There is a reason he won't be there after this year. Your arguement he had to hold the ball longer would work if he wasn't a mobile qb. His age is also working against him, his career span will be more like a McNair or McNabb than an elway or manning.
    I'm also surprised they didn't try to get nassib instead of Barkley in the 4th. Nassib should be would have been a better fit.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post
    Um no, right now at least 10 other qbs easily before Vick. Not only his healthy but his decision making are questionable, Kelly's offense will require that. There is a reason he won't be there after this year. Your arguement he had to hold the ball longer would work if he wasn't a mobile qb. His age is also working against him, his career span will be more like a McNair or McNabb than an elway or manning.
    um, yes. 2010 was the only season vick had a decent line and he played at an MVP level and almost won the MVP. im not arguing that vick is holding the ball longer. its a FACT. watch the all-22 film on it. Andy didnt want him running around every play. He stayed in the pocket, waited for those deep routes to develop and with a bad o line, would get hit more often than not.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post
    I'm also surprised they didn't try to get nassib instead of Barkley in the 4th. Nassib should be would have been a better fit.
    fit for what? have you seen kellys NFL offense? no, you havent. so how do you know Nassib would be a good fit? Kelly doesnt need a mobile qb. he didnt have one every year at Oregon.
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  23. i dont' think vick is a very good quarterback...i know he has 4 pro bowls but really only 1 solid season in his whole career, it was more of a fluke than a sign that vick is a starter in the nfl

    the problem with the eagles is they have a team set up to win now however if they get rid of vick the chances of them winning is greatly reduced

    imo the nfc east is pretty weak overall, theres no powerhouse teams....9-7 record might win the division again but i don't think anyone will look at them as a real threat
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    i dont' think vick is a very good quarterback...i know he has 4 pro bowls but really only 1 solid season in his whole career, it was more of a fluke than a sign that vick is a starter in the nfl

    the problem with the eagles is they have a team set up to win now however if they get rid of vick the chances of them winning is greatly reduced

    imo the nfc east is pretty weak overall, theres no powerhouse teams....9-7 record might win the division again but i don't think anyone will look at them as a real threat
    the eagles roster is one of the youngest in the NFL. vick is the oldest player on the team. only like 3 players are 30+. the offense is in win now mode, but with the new scheme, i am expecting them to have issues/bumps. the D is far from a finished product. def rebuilding phase
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    um, yes. 2010 was the only season vick had a decent line and he played at an MVP level and almost won the MVP. im not arguing that vick is holding the ball longer. its a FACT. watch the all-22 film on it. Andy didnt want him running around every play. He stayed in the pocket, waited for those deep routes to develop and with a bad o line, would get hit more often than not.
    Didnt say it wasnt a fact, I said that wasnt the problem he has the mobility still move when the pocket collaspes, peters was his left tackle, what side is Vicks blindside? so no, stop being a homer 10 other qbs i take if before him easily, and probably another 5 more if the line is solid. 1 season doesnt prove much.


    Maybe you dont know this, but every qb gets better with an improved oline.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by R1balla View Post
    fit for what? have you seen kellys NFL offense? no, you havent. so how do you know Nassib would be a good fit? Kelly doesnt need a mobile qb. he didnt have one every year at Oregon.

    LOL

    kelly is running pretty much the same offense he ran at oregon, barkley ran a prostyle offense and nassib ran read option his last year. Now your just being ridiculous. Hes not going to change his bread and butter, lol

  27. Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post
    Didnt say it wasnt a fact, I said that wasnt the problem he has the mobility still move when the pocket collaspes, peters was his left tackle, what side is Vicks blindside? so no, stop being a homer 10 other qbs i take if before him easily, and probably another 5 more if the line is solid. 1 season doesnt prove much.


    Maybe you dont know this, but every qb gets better with an improved oline.
    10qb? i'd say more like 15 better than vick

    7 super winning qbs, then we have qb's like matt ryan, andrew luck, rg3, cam newton, kapernick who are all better....then theres the likes of wilson, cutler, schaub, romo, stafford, dalton, and rivers....who all can be argued as better qb's than vick, he's def in the bottom half of the league in terms of starting qb's
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post

    LOL

    kelly is running pretty much the same offense he ran at oregon, barkley ran a prostyle offense and nassib ran read option his last year. Now your just being ridiculous. Hes not going to change his bread and butter, lol
    You do understand chip didn't have a mobile qb every year at oregon, right?
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by rugger48 View Post

    Didnt say it wasnt a fact, I said that wasnt the problem he has the mobility still move when the pocket collaspes, peters was his left tackle, what side is Vicks blindside? so no, stop being a homer 10 other qbs i take if before him easily, and probably another 5 more if the line is solid. 1 season doesnt prove much.

    Maybe you dont know this, but every qb gets better with an improved oline.
    Yes, vick could have taken off, but reid and marty were trying to make him what he isn't. A pure pocket qb.
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  30. I have been a vick hater these past two years...but in order to understand his flaws, you must understand what he was asked to do...things he has never done before. If he can grasp this offense, I'm gonna post back on here and laugh at you all!
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