Kobe Bryant is a JOKE

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  1. He is a great player regardless of his poort attitude at times.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Clickster View Post
    He is a great player regardless of his poort attitude at times.
    I wouldn't mistake his aloofness and arrogance for poor attitude.I've NEVER heard anyone in the league,or otherwise accuse him of having a poor attitude.

    His "riff" with shaq was attributed to shaq's laziness.Kobe was CONSTANTLY busting his hump in the gym,and Kobe was peeved that shaq got all the glory and was considered his team.I think shaq is a bum.people love him because he's funny and quotable.if i were 7" & 350,i could show up every night and get 20&10.Actually that's UNDERACHIEVING in my eyes!Anyone who thinks shaq could have won 3 rings in LA w/out Kobe is truly delusional. They've both won one w/out the other.My bet is Kobe will end up w/more rings than shaq when it's all said and done.i pray shaq ends up in cleveland,and pray even harder they face LA in the finals!....just shows the desperation in cleveland.what's shaq got left in the tank???
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  3. No one has to like Kobe's image and I could care less who's the best player in the league because it's 2 different styles. That's like comparing a running back to a receiver.

    I see the OP's point. Throwing elbows isn't classy. But winning championships is. IMO elbows are thrown just about every time down the court, and sometimes little things like that lead to championships. Maybe Lebron should have thrown some elbows against Orlando?

  4. I largely lost interest in basketball this year, but I still watched enough to retain some knowledge - namely, that pure talent is not the only factor that makes an amazing basketball player; in that light, most here are comparing raw talent, rather than basketball ability as a whole. Is LeBron more talented than Kobe? Yes, of course: he is 6'8", muscular, and 23, and yet has the agility, speed, and passing abilities of a PG. However, the other considerations that go into being one of the great basketball players - defensive and offensive IQ, defensive tenacity, the ability to "read" the flow of the game - Kobe has in spades. And so, for the moment, LeBron is the most talented basketball player in the league, but not the best one.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    I largely lost interest in basketball this year, but I still watched enough to retain some knowledge - namely, that pure talent is not the only factor that makes an amazing basketball player; in that light, most here are comparing raw talent, rather than basketball ability as a whole. Is LeBron more talented than Kobe? Yes, of course: he is 6'8", muscular, and 23, and yet has the agility, speed, and passing abilities of a PG. However, the other considerations that go into being one of the great basketball players - defensive and offensive IQ, defensive tenacity, the ability to "read" the flow of the game - Kobe has in spades. And so, for the moment, LeBron is the most talented basketball player in the league, but not the best one.
    I would never have put it that way but i think you are absolutely correctomundo
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  6. Just found this thread... Hoother, no idea you were a LBJ nuthugger.

    I can appreciate King James, but with regards to calling Kobe out for being a d*ck or whatever... maybe you can explain to me why Bron Bron ran off like a b*tch after he was eliminated from the playoffs, and confiscated a tape of some college kid jamming on him (wasn't even that bad of a jam)...

    Kobe is a ****y bastard... most of the time when he is criticized, its simply because he's not on your team.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    Just found this thread... Hoother, no idea you were a LBJ nuthugger.
    Count me as one of those who also treats LBJ's testicles like a tire swing.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by JW32Hoops View Post
    Count me as one of those who also treats LBJ's testicles like a tire swing.
    I give him his props... I think he's a great player. Albeit a completely different player than Kobe...

    Kobe has nothing left to prove. You guys will see how it is in 8 years when LBJ has a ring or two, but can't win without Shaq.

    I just don't see how liking Kobe or LBJ has to be mutually exclusive. Look, I'm REALLY sorry your team got punked again in the playoffs - but Kobe didn't do it.

  9. Yeah, seems like this year, Nike's ad machine caused folks everywhere to take sides. Personally, I like LBJ more, but that doesn't mean I take anything away from Kobe's talent or accomplishments. He's certainly a helluva player.


  10. I actually used to like the Lakers quite a bit.. until Kobe started annoying me. I am a Pheonix Suns fan . Thank god we didn't trade Amare or I might of had to boycott the NBA.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by h0other View Post
    I actually used to like the Lakers quite a bit.. until Kobe started annoying me. I am a Pheonix Suns fan . Thank god we didn't trade Amare or I might of had to boycott the NBA.
    Your team is a mess. You have a lot more to worry about than Kobe.

  12. resigned nash and have Amare.. 1 or 2 more guys and we're ok. I'm not worried about Kobe, I just think that he is a poor influence on children these days.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by h0other View Post
    resigned nash and have Amare.. 1 or 2 more guys and we're ok. I'm not worried about Kobe, I just think that he is a poor influence on children these days.
    Who cares. His job is to win basketball games. I'd love to instill his work ethic in my son someday.

    You really think Nash will be an effective point guard thru 2012?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by h0other View Post
    resigned nash and have Amare.. 1 or 2 more guys and we're ok. I'm not worried about Kobe, I just think that he is a poor influence on children these days.
    I have to say, I think the Suns passed their "golden window" that every good team receives. They had three-to-four years where they had a viable shot at the title, and that time has since passed. For reference, please see: the Sacramento Kings circa 2002-2005.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    I have to say, I think the Suns passed their "golden window" that every good team receives. They had three-to-four years where they had a viable shot at the title, and that time has since passed. For reference, please see: the Sacramento Kings circa 2002-2005.
    I agree. Oh man, how awesome were those late 90's, early 00's Kings teams? I'm not sure if I've ever seen a team pass as well (and as entertaining) as when Jason Williams, Chris Webber and Vlade Divac were all sharing the rock. Beautiful thing to watch.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    I have to say, I think the Suns passed their "golden window" that every good team receives. They had three-to-four years where they had a viable shot at the title, and that time has since passed. For reference, please see: the Sacramento Kings circa 2002-2005.
    And this is coming from a Canadian.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by JW32Hoops View Post
    I agree. Oh man, how awesome were those late 90's, early 00's Kings teams? I'm not sure if I've ever seen a team pass as well (and as entertaining) as when Jason Williams, Chris Webber and Vlade Divac were all sharing the rock. Beautiful thing to watch.
    They were very good: great passers, great court vision and anticipation, great teammates, and J-Will was actually one of my favorite players, at the time; however, they hit their peak while the Lakers were dominating and simply could not overcome [due in part to a triple-overtime three-pointer by Robert Horry, who the Spurs later claimed for that duty].

  18. Only reason the Suns passed this "golden window" was because of the Spur's being a bunch of cheating bastards. Bruce Bowen and Robert Horrys heroics in the playoffs were a joke. They have to be 2 of the biggest idiots to ever play the game.

  19. I've never been a big Spurs guy (they took down my Nets squad w/Kidd, Kittles, Martin, etc) but Robert Horry is a 7-time NBA Champion and Bruce Bowen is a 3-time NBA Champion and has been on 8 All NBA Defensive 1st or 2nd Teams. Respect.


  20. I could sit at the end bench of the Lakers and Spur's and let Kobe, Shaq, Tim Duncan and tony Parker do all the work. It'd make me a 7 time NBA champion but how much of it is owed to them? Not much. The gig they pulled against the Suns was garbage and i'd love for you to tell me how it wasn't.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by h0other View Post
    I could sit at the end bench of the Lakers and Spur's and let Kobe, Shaq, Tim Duncan and tony Parker do all the work.
    Yeah, you probably would've hit those clutch shots and went on to become one of only two players ever to win championships with three different teams. I'm sure you would've been 8 time all defensive team too.

  22. ...and, for no other reason than sheer badassness...Shawn Kemp...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlAuCLFqjmY"]YouTube - Shawn Kemp Dunks[/ame]

  23. I could throw up a few prayers and connect for sure. I think that if I took acting classes and fouled enough that I could be just like Bowen too. He taught Ginoblili well.

  24. Shawn Kemp is a bad ass for sure.. I'm pretty sure I saw him on pro's vs joe's getting handled by someone who hadn't played basketball since high school a few weeks ago. The things those bad asses will do to make a few hundred dollars after there career dwindles and they dont know how to handle there money.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by h0other View Post
    I could sit at the end bench of the Lakers and Spur's and let Kobe, Shaq, Tim Duncan and tony Parker do all the work. It'd make me a 7 time NBA champion but how much of it is owed to them? Not much. The gig they pulled against the Suns was garbage and i'd love for you to tell me how it wasn't.
    If you got 2 minutes of playing time in any NBA game, your team would be the loser. You sound like a bit of a whiner in here.
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