Can methyl-plex be stacked with M1,4ADD
- 08-15-2006, 02:39 PM
- 08-15-2006, 03:28 PM
they are both methylated, the stack is possible, highly dangerous but possible. i would stay away from stacking two methyls. i would also run these compounds for a MAXIMUM of 4 weeks. go for 120mg with the m1,4add. and i would go with 10/20/20/20 on the methyl plex.
08-15-2006, 03:41 PM
From what ive read m1,4ad is yes methylated but isnt as harsh as SD or M1T or anything of that sort. Also Methyl-Plex id say use atleast 20mgs of it, i started out at 30mgs and didnt see much until i got to 40mgs. Once i hit 40 though, wow, great slow steady powerful strength gains.
Id say use it for 4 weeks and if u start noticing bad signs then stop it, but take AI cycle support during and you should probly be ok.
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08-16-2006, 11:05 AM
Thanks guys for the quick reply.Would it be better if I ran them back to back and stacked them with a non-methyl like m-trn ?
08-16-2006, 12:39 PM
Originally Posted by wheels
I wouldnt recommend running them for more then 4 weeks and 6 weeks MAX. I think ud be better off going 4 weeks both used togethor to be honest with you.
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08-17-2006, 06:36 AM
I was thinking of running pp and m1,4add for about 3to 4 wks and superdrol after for about 2wks what do you think and what's the highest doseage of phera-plex have you run ?Originally Posted by 3clipseGT
08-17-2006, 02:05 PM
I was honestly thinking of stacking them myself at some point, but what I would do myself and what I would tell other people to do is completely different some times.
To err on the side of caution, stacking two methyl's can be harsh and is best avoided.
08-17-2006, 04:43 PM
What do you think of m1,4add ? and what would your stack look like if you were to stack at some point ?Originally Posted by sns8778
08-17-2006, 05:01 PM
I personally like M1,4ADD.Originally Posted by wheels
For anyone reading, refer back to my post about what I sometimes consider trying myself and what I would recomend can be entirely different things. Also note that I havent fully researched this as much as I would like to yet.
If I were to try this stack, I would do a 4 week with Plex being 10, 10, 20, 20, and M1,4ADD being 60, 90, 90, 90.
08-17-2006, 05:47 PM
I've been reading all your post on other forums on the topic.I recommand your product line to all my friend at my gym I think they are some of the best on the market can't go wrong SNS product line.Do you think it would be overkill to run sd alone for additional 2wks after the 4wk cycle of pp and m1,4add ?Originally Posted by sns8778
08-17-2006, 05:58 PM
Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it very much.Originally Posted by wheels
Yes, i think this stack would be pushing it enough, I think it would definately be overkill to run superdrol right afterwards.
08-17-2006, 06:19 PM
08-17-2006, 06:24 PM
No problem. Always feel free to PM me or email me if you have questions as well.Originally Posted by wheels
08-18-2006, 11:54 AM
08-18-2006, 12:26 PM
I cant say that it affected my endurance at all.Originally Posted by wheels
As far as sides, there are potential sides with any product of this type. Fluid retention is a common one with this, although usually mild. I hold barely any fluid with it.
08-18-2006, 01:20 PM
Thanks again for your help I'm sold can't wait to give it a try will keep you postedOriginally Posted by sns8778
08-18-2006, 05:40 PM
.If I was to run a stand alone methyl-plex cycle what would be the max doseage for max results for a 6wk cycle ?Originally Posted by sns8778
08-19-2006, 05:56 PM
Opinions vary but I personally wouldnt go over 20 mg per day and I would stick to a 4 week cycle.Originally Posted by wheels
08-19-2006, 08:16 PM
Are there any other M1,4ADD out there oother than the Competative Edge Labs. Its only a 60ct. @ 30mg. I want to run this product but not at that price for the ct.
08-19-2006, 11:55 PM
Yes both DS and SNS had 90 ct bottles at 30mg per cap. Also to the OP the stack is possible but I would suggest you run an AI on cycle as you will be stacking two compounds that have a history of aromatizing. Also have support supps in place for BP, lipids, liver and prostate health and you may wish to front load some of them. Also monitor your BP daily if you can.Originally Posted by Bildo_21
08-20-2006, 02:25 AM
Yea but im talking about ones that are one the market that i can by otc right now.Originally Posted by dtrain13
08-20-2006, 09:43 AM
None, as of Jan 20, 2005 it became a controlled substance and hence illegel to sell.Originally Posted by Bildo_21
08-20-2006, 10:19 AM
Thats why i asked if there were anyothers out there. There is one that is selling as we speak. The one i was talking about in one of my earlier posts thats why i asked this question I swear im not an idiot .....lolOriginally Posted by dtrain13
08-20-2006, 10:41 AM
08-20-2006, 04:54 PM
Actually M1,4ADD was not banned, neither was 1,4ADD. If you remember, Molecular continued to make 1,4ADD for quite some time after the ban. The reason that we quit making the M1,4ADD when the first ban happened was we didnt know how it would be handled since it was not on the list.Originally Posted by dtrain13
I do not know of any other company besides CEL right now that has one on the market. I do know that Iforce just started making regular 1,4ADD again, but they are completely different compounds.
As for the price on the CEL M1,4ADD, I havent looked at the raw materials pricing on it in a long time, but I would assume since it has been gone for so long that the raw material price is probably higher than it was back when we used to make one. The reason I say this is that if a raw material quits being used and no one is making it, having it made again costs more money as it is done for the company and not on a bulk type thing. If that is the case, the price isn't terrible on theirs.
08-20-2006, 07:27 PM
Is SNS thinking og making a comeback in the ol' M1,4ADD market??????????Originally Posted by sns8778
08-20-2006, 10:05 PM
The two in the thread title. Both have the potential to aromatize and both have been reported as such. I'm not saying either will but they can so I would use an AI on cycle. From my own personal experience I got nipple pain and some water retention while using Ergomax LMG and Phera-Plex. That being said someone could run this cycle and not get estrogen related sides as everbody reacts different to different things.Originally Posted by wheels
08-20-2006, 10:07 PM
Well I stand corrected, thank you Steve. I knew about Boldione(1,4ADD)but was unaware that they also left off the methylated version as well.Originally Posted by sns8778
08-21-2006, 07:16 AM
I was wondering about that,I have ultra hotter on hand at what doseage do you recommend using per day for this cycle ?Originally Posted by dtrain13
08-21-2006, 03:12 PM
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