just wondering if this stack is possible ?,if so what would dosing look like for these two supplements over a 6wk period of time.
Thanks guys for the quick reply.Would it be better if I ran them back to back and stacked them with a non-methyl like m-trn ?
I was thinking of running pp and m1,4add for about 3to 4 wks and superdrol after for about 2wks what do you think and what's the highest doseage of phera-plex have you run ?I wouldnt recommend running them for more then 4 weeks and 6 weeks MAX. I think ud be better off going 4 weeks both used togethor to be honest with you.
What do you think of m1,4add ? and what would your stack look like if you were to stack at some point ?I was honestly thinking of stacking them myself at some point, but what I would do myself and what I would tell other people to do is completely different some times.
To err on the side of caution, stacking two methyl's can be harsh and is best avoided.
I personally like M1,4ADD.What do you think of m1,4add ? and what would your stack look like if you were to stack at some point ?
I've been reading all your post on other forums on the topic.I recommand your product line to all my friend at my gym I think they are some of the best on the market can't go wrong SNS product line.Do you think it would be overkill to run sd alone for additional 2wks after the 4wk cycle of pp and m1,4add ?I personally like M1,4ADD.
For anyone reading, refer back to my post about what I sometimes consider trying myself and what I would recomend can be entirely different things. Also note that I havent fully researched this as much as I would like to yet.
If I were to try this stack, I would do a 4 week with Plex being 10, 10, 20, 20, and M1,4ADD being 60, 90, 90, 90.
Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it very much.I've been reading all your post on other forums on the topic.I recommand your product line to all my friend at my gym I think they are some of the best on the market can't go wrong SNS product line.Do you think it would be overkill to run superdrol alone for additional 2wks after the 4wk cycle of pp and m1,4add ?
Thanks for the quick reply and for all your helpThanks for the kind words. I appreciate it very much.
Yes, i think this stack would be pushing it enough, I think it would definately be overkill to run superdrol right afterwards.
No problem. Always feel free to PM me or email me if you have questions as well.Thanks for the quick reply and for all your help
how will m1,4add effect my endurance and what are some of the sides ?No problem. Always feel free to PM me or email me if you have questions as well.
I cant say that it affected my endurance at all.how will m1,4add effect my endurance and what are some of the sides ?
Thanks again for your help I'm sold can't wait to give it a try will keep you postedNo problem. Always feel free to PM me or email me if you have questions as well.
.If I was to run a stand alone methyl-plex cycle what would be the max doseage for max results for a 6wk cycle ?Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it very much.
Yes, i think this stack would be pushing it enough, I think it would definately be overkill to run superdrol right afterwards.
Opinions vary but I personally wouldnt go over 20 mg per day and I would stick to a 4 week cycle..If I was to run a stand alone methyl-plex cycle what would be the max doseage for max results for a 6wk cycle ?
Yes both DS and SNS had 90 ct bottles at 30mg per cap. Also to the OP the stack is possible but I would suggest you run an AI on cycle as you will be stacking two compounds that have a history of aromatizing. Also have support supps in place for BP, lipids, liver and prostate health and you may wish to front load some of them. Also monitor your BP daily if you can.Are there any other M1,4ADD out there oother than the Competative Edge Labs. Its only a 60ct. @ 30mg. I want to run this product but not at that price for the ct.
Yea but im talking about ones that are one the market that i can by otc right now.Yes both DS and SNS had 90 ct bottles at 30mg per cap. Also to the OP the stack is possible but I would suggest you run an AI on cycle as you will be stacking two compounds that have a history of aromatizing. Also have support supps in place for BP, lipids, liver and prostate health and you may wish to front load some of them. Also monitor your BP daily if you can.
None, as of Jan 20, 2005 it became a controlled substance and hence illegel to sell.Yea but im talking about ones that are one the market that i can by otc right now.
Thats why i asked if there were anyothers out there. There is one that is selling as we speak. The one i was talking about in one of my earlier posts thats why i asked this question I swear im not an idiot :fool2:.....lolNone, as of Jan 20, 2005 it became a controlled substance and hence illegel to sell.
Was wondering what two compounds are you talking about ?Yes both DS and SNS had 90 ct bottles at 30mg per cap. Also to the OP the stack is possible but I would suggest you run an AI on cycle as you will be stacking two compounds that have a history of aromatizing. Also have support supps in place for BP, lipids, liver and prostate health and you may wish to front load some of them. Also monitor your BP daily if you can.
Actually M1,4ADD was not banned, neither was 1,4ADD. If you remember, Molecular continued to make 1,4ADD for quite some time after the ban. The reason that we quit making the M1,4ADD when the first ban happened was we didnt know how it would be handled since it was not on the list.None, as of Jan 20, 2005 it became a controlled substance and hence illegel to sell.
Is SNS thinking og making a comeback in the ol' M1,4ADD market??????????Actually M1,4ADD was not banned, neither was 1,4ADD. If you remember, Molecular continued to make 1,4ADD for quite some time after the ban. The reason that we quit making the M1,4ADD when the first ban happened was we didnt know how it would be handled since it was not on the list.
I do not know of any other company besides CEL right now that has one on the market. I do know that Iforce just started making regular 1,4ADD again, but they are completely different compounds.
As for the price on the CEL M1,4ADD, I havent looked at the raw materials pricing on it in a long time, but I would assume since it has been gone for so long that the raw material price is probably higher than it was back when we used to make one. The reason I say this is that if a raw material quits being used and no one is making it, having it made again costs more money as it is done for the company and not on a bulk type thing. If that is the case, the price isn't terrible on theirs.
The two in the thread title. Both have the potential to aromatize and both have been reported as such. I'm not saying either will but they can so I would use an AI on cycle. From my own personal experience I got nipple pain and some water retention while using Ergomax LMG and Phera-Plex. That being said someone could run this cycle and not get estrogen related sides as everbody reacts different to different things.Was wondering what two compounds are you talking about ?
Well I stand corrected, thank you Steve. I knew about Boldione(1,4ADD)but was unaware that they also left off the methylated version as well.Actually M1,4ADD was not banned, neither was 1,4ADD. If you remember, Molecular continued to make 1,4ADD for quite some time after the ban. The reason that we quit making the M1,4ADD when the first ban happened was we didnt know how it would be handled since it was not on the list.
I do not know of any other company besides CEL right now that has one on the market. I do know that Iforce just started making regular 1,4ADD again, but they are completely different compounds.
As for the price on the CEL M1,4ADD, I havent looked at the raw materials pricing on it in a long time, but I would assume since it has been gone for so long that the raw material price is probably higher than it was back when we used to make one. The reason I say this is that if a raw material quits being used and no one is making it, having it made again costs more money as it is done for the company and not on a bulk type thing. If that is the case, the price isn't terrible on theirs.
I was wondering about that,I have ultra hotter on hand at what doseage do you recommend using per day for this cycle ?The two in the thread title. Both have the potential to aromatize and both have been reported as such. I'm not saying either will but they can so I would use an AI on cycle. From my own personal experience I got nipple pain and some water retention while using Ergomax LMG and Phera-Plex. That being said someone could run this cycle and not get estrogen related sides as everbody reacts different to different things.
No. Not at all.Is SNS thinking og making a comeback in the ol' M1,4ADD market??????????
D@mn... :sad:No. Not at all.
I second thatD@mn... :sad:
We wont be doing any more of those types of products.I second that
.will I need to run an AI with this cycle if so at doseage per day ?I personally like M1,4ADD.
For anyone reading, refer back to my post about what I sometimes consider trying myself and what I would recomend can be entirely different things. Also note that I havent fully researched this as much as I would like to yet.
If I were to try this stack, I would do a 4 week with Plex being 10, 10, 20, 20, and M1,4ADD being 60, 90, 90, 90.
out of the hundreds of log ive read on methyl plex, this is the first ive heard of any need for an ai during cycle.will I need to run an AI with this cycle if so at doseage per day ?
I personally wouldnt need to myself, but some people may say that you would need to..will I need to run an AI with this cycle if so at doseage per day ?
I think he was referring to the addition of M1,4ADD (target hormone aromatizes).out of the hundreds of log ive read on methyl plex, this is the first ive heard of any need for an ai during cycle
oh okI think he was referring to the addition of M1,4ADD (target hormone aromatizes).
do you know what the conversion rate of m1,4add to dbol is ?I personally wouldnt need to myself, but some people may say that you would need to.
Correct. In combination with another hormone that can but may not aromatize could be problematic in terms of estrogen related sides. At the very least have some Tamox on hand to prevent any gyno at the first sign of it. Like I posted already in this thread everyone's body is different and thus what happens to me or someone else during a cycle may not happen to you. Just move forward with caution and have your ass covered is what I'm saying.I think he was referring to the addition of M1,4ADD (target hormone aromatizes).
From what I remember 30mg should yeild ~10mg of D-bol. 90-120mg is what most used back in the day.do you know what the conversion rate of m1,4add to dbol is ?
how many mg's per day would you recommend ?Correct. In combination with another hormone that can but may not aromatize could be problematic in terms of estrogen related sides. At the very least have some Tamox on hand to prevent any gyno at the first sign of it. Like I posted already in this thread everyone's body is different and thus what happens to me or someone else during a cycle may not happen to you. Just move forward with caution and have your ass covered is what I'm saying.
Do you know why people keep saying there's a conversion rate of only 15% for this produce m1,4addFrom what I remember 30mg should yeild ~10mg of D-bol. 90-120mg is what most used back in the day.
I have heard different theories on this. I do know that I had excellent results from it but I have never used Dbod before so its hard to compare.Do you know why people keep saying there's a conversion rate of only 15% for this produce m1,4add