FINAFLEX Max Pump Beta be good for AZ

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  1. Yeah mine would be pre workout and probably pre bed. I have been taking it at night on the days I don't train so the dose will be closest to my training first thing in the morning. It is my own idea really and has nothing to do with knowledge of a perfect way to take it.
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  2. ^^ nice idea actually
    if anything, and based only on my understanding of the systemic effects, i'd advise split-dosing 12hrs apart
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  3. Biceps/Calves/Quads today and there weren't any of the issues from yesterday. Dosed Max with a whey shake first thing in the morning and did not feel any stomach discomfort. If I do the 8 cap trial I will keep the morning dose and then take the second 30 min preworkout. It won't be 12 hours but close enough. I will give it a go on monday for chest/triceps...can you think of a better time?? Lol

    Vascularity/Pump: My biceps were blown up today. My quads felt like tree trunks after my 2 20 rep extensions following squats. Stretching them after was brutal.

    Muscle Endurance/Stamina: 2nd day back on Max Pump and the reps just keep coming. I increase the weight and can still hit all my reps. You really have to push to get the lactic acid to come.

    Muscle Stength: The weights keep moving up so here again my strength is building.

    Overall: I am sold on the product and look forward to stocking up when out. Does this need to be cycled like most other supplements? 8 weeks on then off for 4 and back on? Just curious..

    Here is a pic today of me afterwards...I'm covered up but you can see that my arms are filling up the sleeves of that XXL.

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  4. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Does this need to be cycled like most other supplements? 8 weeks on then off for 4 and back on? Just curious..
    i do not have an answer for that att..seems to make sense, but may be more like a 6on/2off rotation
    will have to look into that one, thx

    Here is a pic today of me afterwards...I'm covered up but you can see that my arms are filling up the sleeves of that XXL.
    you bashful all the sudden, friend?

    srs tho - you are looking quite stout there brother, very full. and the veinage is most obvious
    great work!

  5. What I want to find out is when you peek using this cuz that's how far out from contest I will use it.

  6. One thing that caught my attention was the fact that you had to work longer to get lactic acid to come. Wouldn't this suggest an increase in ATP ? Makes sense. Now I really wonder about this with Crea-Trona.....

  7. Nice looking shirt AZ! Jealous of that pump!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    What I want to find out is when you peek using this cuz that's how far out from contest I will use it.
    Well,the pump for me took about 2 days to establish itself fully. I had to interupt my run so I can't say much as far as it peaking. I will be on this run longer so maybe I can comment on that soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    One thing that caught my attention was the fact that you had to work longer to get lactic acid to come. Wouldn't this suggest an increase in ATP ? Makes sense. Now I really wonder about this with Crea-Trona.....
    It should be a killer combo in my mind. I am taking creatine mono(5g ed) during this but have been for sometime. The endurance/stamina aspect is phenomenal for me and the pump just sweetens the pie.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    It should be a killer combo in my mind. I am taking creatine mono(5g ed) during this
    so you are nitrating your creatine?
    hmmmmm

  10. Guess you could say that. Lol
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  11. Oh yeah there is definite ATP replenishment in this Betaine is known for that aspect adding in the nitrates was just a touch of genius to make it all work even better.
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  12. Today is my core/posterior chain day. I did weighted ABs/hanging knee raises and then went to weighted Reverse Hypers/weighted single leg hypers/RDLs/weighted glute bridges/lying hamstring. I blew through the workout but at the end I could barely stand erect because my back was so pumped. I would not suggest that Max Pump be used while on cycle. Lol

    Calves/Shoulders tomorrow.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Today is my core/posterior chain day. I did weighted ABs/hanging knee raises and then went to weighted Reverse Hypers/weighted single leg hypers/RDLs/weighted glute bridges/lying hamstring. I blew through the workout but at the end I could barely stand erect because my back was so pumped. I would not suggest that Max Pump be used while on cycle. Lol

    Calves/Shoulders tomorrow.
    I'n not waiting I am going to jump in right away.... cycle or no cycle...

  14. Well that or don't do the exercises that make your back pump really bad with it. I almost never do Squats on an oral run. I will always go for the leg press simply because I have had squats cripple me via back pump to the point I had to stop too many workouts because I couldn't even walk much less lift.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Well that or don't do the exercises that make your back pump really bad with it. I almost never do Squats on an oral run. I will always go for the leg press simply because I have had squats cripple me via back pump to the point I had to stop too many workouts because I couldn't even walk much less lift.
    Reverse hacks, Leg press and leg extensions for me right now.

  16. what what what??!?!?
    what's this nonsense about no squats?
    man....cannot live without them..of course, i don't have a leg press unit, so unless i'm doing squats or walking lunges, my wheel size suffers tremendously

  17. True that Snags! I've always had some form of squat in my routine. Right now I am using the Zercher squat. It isn't quite as hard as the front squat but it's close.

    Today I hit calves/shoulders. I've always had a tough time getting my shoulders to fill up with blood but today it was definitely better than usual. Nothing to get excited over but a noticeable improvement. I did however increase my reps and weights today so the endurance/strength aspect is still solid. I am still loving this benefit tremendously.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  18. Reverse hacks are really a squat, does put less pressure on the core though.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Reverse hacks are really a squat, does put less pressure on the core though.
    Main reason for doing the Zerchers^^
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Main reason for doing the Zerchers^^
    As my waist gets smaller, I am at bigger risk but I do a lot of WOD so I should be ok..

  21. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    what what what??!?!?
    what's this nonsense about no squats?
    man....cannot live without them..of course, i don't have a leg press unit, so unless i'm doing squats or walking lunges, my wheel size suffers tremendously
    No Nonsense at all! In all honesty squats are basically a hamstring, adductor and hip exercise for me. My natural pelvic tilt and hip position see to that. I can do very close stance squats and get my quads but in all honestly the leg press does a much better job for me than squatting as a power move for my quads. When I switch up my legs to doing hamstrings and quads separately I put squats on the hamstring days, alternating typically with Dead Lifts as the main exercise. For quads it is mostly leg press with some hack squats tossed in. I do like to do leg press first sometimes then do a Widow Maker on squats while my quads are already beat then they seem to get much more from the squats.

    By the way Paul Dillet built his legs without squatting also. He basically had the same situation as me regarding them being hip and hamstring dominant.



    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    True that Snags! I've always had some form of squat in my routine. Right now I am using the Zercher squat. It isn't quite as hard as the front squat but it's close.

    Today I hit calves/shoulders. I've always had a tough time getting my shoulders to fill up with blood but today it was definitely better than usual. Nothing to get excited over but a noticeable improvement. I did however increase my reps and weights today so the endurance/strength aspect is still solid. I am still loving this benefit tremendously.
    Nice that you are getting a pump in places you normally don't. Zerchers are some seriously uncomfortable S.O.B.'s do you use a towel or anything to keep them from biting into your biceps tendons?

    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Reverse hacks are really a squat, does put less pressure on the core though.
    For the reverse hacks do you mean just facing backwards in a Hack Squat Machine? We have a machine specifically made for that in one of gyms I go to but again it ands up being hamstring and glute dominant.
    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Main reason for doing the Zerchers^^
    I may have to give these another shot. I do get a great quad workout from Barbell hacks but talk about a movement that requires CNS to be trained... I have fallen backwards a step or two probably every time when I first incorporate them back into a workout. Man do they kill the quads though.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    By the way Paul Dillet built his legs without squatting also. He basically had the same situation as me regarding them being hip and hamstring dominant.

    puny wheels




    wow, that freak is enuff to make one believe in no squats LOL
    i'll stick with what i know, however...

  23. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    For the reverse hacks do you mean just facing backwards in a Hack Squat Machine? We have a machine specifically made for that in one of gyms I go to but again it ands up being hamstring and glute dominant.
    Yes the machine the gym is designed for both forward and reverse hacks and when you go very low it's extremely focussed on the hams and glutes. I need extra hamstring focus more than anything so it's a win for me.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    puny wheels




    wow, that freak is enuff to make one believe in no squats LOL
    i'll stick with what i know, however...
    Yeah it really has to do with pelvic tilt if they tend to rock back then glutes hams and hips are dominant, if they are in a more forward alignment then squats will rock quads. Don't get me wrong I definitely squat, I find it both fun and challenging. However to really get my quads I also need leg press. If I only had a home gym I would definitely have to do front squats or zerchers and barbell hacks to kill my quads.

    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yes the machine the gym is designed for both forward and reverse hacks and when you go very low it's extremely focussed on the hams and glutes. I need extra hamstring focus more than anything so it's a win for me.
    Nice I love that machine. I can load that bad boy up with plates all the way across it and rep that bad boy out for 3 sets of 15. I have ridiculously large glutes and my hamstrings are not too shabby either.

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  25. Yah you can really get incredible depth without much risk of injury...

  26. I just use a squat bar pad to save the arms Kleen.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    I just use a squat bar pad to save the arms Kleen.
    I have one lying around somewhere will give that a shot.
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Biceps/Calves/Quads today and there weren't any of the issues from yesterday. Dosed Max with a whey shake first thing in the morning and did not feel any stomach discomfort. If I do the 8 cap trial I will keep the morning dose and then take the second 30 min preworkout. It won't be 12 hours but close enough. I will give it a go on monday for chest/triceps...can you think of a better time?? Lol

    Vascularity/Pump: My biceps were blown up today. My quads felt like tree trunks after my 2 20 rep extensions following squats. Stretching them after was brutal.

    Muscle Endurance/Stamina: 2nd day back on Max Pump and the reps just keep coming. I increase the weight and can still hit all my reps. You really have to push to get the lactic acid to come.

    Muscle Stength: The weights keep moving up so here again my strength is building.

    Overall: I am sold on the product and look forward to stocking up when out. Does this need to be cycled like most other supplements? 8 weeks on then off for 4 and back on? Just curious..

    Here is a pic today of me afterwards...I'm covered up but you can see that my arms are filling up the sleeves of that XXL.

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  29. 5th day of use and it seems to have me feeling fuller all day. My diet has been on point since the trip out of town so no changes there to cause these effects. I am probably going to keep my cals at this level for a little while longer since I just started logging a test booster. Today I hit calves/back and once again the weights went up and all my rep targets were hit. It will be very interesting to see where my numbers go after Max Pump ends. Not much in the pump department with my back. I have 3 body parts that struggle to get pumps and good mind/muscle connections:back,hamstrings,an d shoulders. My back is slowly coming on line but the other 2 seem hopeless. I guess I could throw calves(gastrocs) in there too. Hey,who doesn't like a challenge right. Off day tomorrow and then some core/posterior work on Sunday. Enjoy your Friday guys!
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    5th day of use and it seems to have me feeling fuller all day. My diet has been on point since the trip out of town so no changes there to cause these effects. I am probably going to keep my cals at this level for a little while longer since I just started logging a test booster. Today I hit calves/back and once again the weights went up and all my rep targets were hit. It will be very interesting to see where my numbers go after Max Pump ends. Not much in the pump department with my back. I have 3 body parts that struggle to get pumps and good mind/muscle connections:back,hamstrings,an d shoulders. My back is slowly coming on line but the other 2 seem hopeless. I guess I could throw calves(gastrocs) in there too. Hey,who doesn't like a challenge right. Off day tomorrow and then some core/posterior work on Sunday. Enjoy your Friday guys!
    I have the same issue with my back and traps and sometimes legs.
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