Muscle Marinade/ Truth About PreWOs

[Grambo]

So the part about not mixing PHs with pre wo drinks was something I never considered. Are you referring to the ones with qa lot of stims only? (I know I'm opening myself to ridicule) But wouldn't Biotest Surge workout fuel be okay? Or, even do I say it, Anaconda-Mag 10. Don't laugh if you haven't tried them...bestb recovery I've ever had. Thanks

There is nothing special in those products you know? You could replicate them for a hell of a lot cheaper. I love some of the articles on Tnation and look everyday but after I, Bodybuilder and all this they have just finally reached new lows of overpromising and under delivering. They don't have any innovative products and every product can be bought cheaper elsewhere. (Sorry for the rant)

Your answer: It is usually just Stimulant based Preworkouts as they can spike blood pressure and so do PHs. They are not detrimental but if you are sensitive to both it is not a good combination. Things like you listed should be fine though.

[rara]

Will members of the board get a pre-order sale with a discount or anything like that ?
thanks

[Grambo]

Will members of the board get a pre-order sale with a discount or anything like that ?
thanks

That will probably be more up to Nutraplanet than us. Release is right around the corner (next week) so not sure if there will even be a pre-sale.

Price point should be 34-38 I believe.

[believer]

There is nothing special in those products you know? You could replicate them for a hell of a lot cheaper. I love some of the articles on Tnation and look everyday but after I, Bodybuilder and all this they have just finally reached new lows of overpromising and under delivering. They don't have any innovative products and every product can be bought cheaper elsewhere. (Sorry for the rant)

Your answer: It is usually just Stimulant based Preworkouts as they can spike blood pressure and so do PHs. They are not detrimental but if you are sensitive to both it is not a good combination. Things like you listed should be fine though.

Grambo, what products would be able to replace the Biotest products I mentioned? I know the Workout Fuel and Recovery drink are easily reproduced but the Anaconda and Mag-10 seemed pretty unique to me...I'd like to hear your response because if they're basically the same ingredients, and they're cheaper, I'm all for it (of course!) Thanks

[Grambo]

Grambo, what products would be able to replace the Biotest products I mentioned? I know the Workout Fuel and Recovery drink are easily reproduced but the Anaconda and Mag-10 seemed pretty unique to me...I'd like to hear your response because if they're basically the same ingredients, and they're cheaper, I'm all for it (of course!) Thanks

Well what about them do you feel is unique?

[alexx33]

the purus punch flavor is orgasmic, i love it.

[Grambo]

the purus punch flavor is orgasmic, i love it.

Damn already got yours eh?

Mines coming in Monday

[believer]

Well what about them do you feel is unique?

I'm not a supplement expert by any means, but the CHI, Creatine complex and Hydration complex are things I don't see in any other pre, intra or post workout drink. It sounds like you feel IBB underdelivered. I am, so far, pleased with it and it's a 5 day a week workout program and I don't think this old body would recover as well as it does without the Anaconda and Mag-10. If you know a company that makes a similar product or know sources where I could create my own versions, please let me know. The only difficult part would be flavoring it. Biotest sends bottles of very concentrated orange, grape and berry flavored liquid to add to the drinks to make them palatable. I love Purus products (still have one bottle of each of the d/s's you made) so I'll probably try MM, I just don't know how it, or any other shake, will help me more than Biotests.

[GRAYHORSE]

I love Purus products (still have one bottle of each of the d/s's you made) so I'll probably try MM, I just don't know how it, or any other shake, will help me more than Biotests.

Did you read the write up on MM?

[believer]

Did you read the write up on MM?

Not yet because I do most of my browsing on my Blackberry and it won't let me load a PDF. When I get to a 'real' computer, I'll read it. Maybe that will answer all my questions.

[believer]

Not yet because I do most of my browsing on my Blackberry and it won't let me load a PDF. When I get to a 'real' computer, I'll read it. Maybe that will answer all my questions.

Ok, got a chance to read it. Sounds great, will definately order if the caffeine content/cost aren't too high. Now,what about a post w/o drink?

[Grambo]

Ok, got a chance to read it. Sounds great, will definately order if the caffeine content/cost aren't too high. Now,what about a post w/o drink?

Is MAG-10 the Postworkout drink?

If so Id just simply do Whey+Oats+Banana my standby.

If you wanted to replicate it Casein+Leucine+ BULK Citrulline malate

[Grambo]

How long you been running the program (I, Bodybuilder)? or have you?

[GRAYHORSE]

Ok, got a chance to read it. Sounds great, will definately order if the caffeine content/cost aren't too high. Now,what about a post w/o drink?

If you dont like stims then it wont be for you. Cost per REAL serving will be the cheapest.

[believer]

Read the write-up earlier today and MM sounds very good. Hope it comes out soon. Will definately get some if caffeine content/price aren't too high. Now how about a post w/o?

[Grambo]

Double post? Ha

[believer]

Double post? Ha

Yeah, sorry. It wasn't showing up on my Blackberry so I did it twice.

[believer]

Is MAG-10 the Postworkout drink?

If so Id just simply do Whey+Oats+Banana my standby.

If you wanted to replicate it Casein+Leucine+ BULK Citrulline malate

Actually, Mag-10 and Anaconda are mixed and consumed before, during and, if needed, after working out. The complete 'protocol', which includes finabars and alpha-gpc gives almost 60 grams of CHI. I should mention the powders are mixed with a half gallon of water so one-fourth of it is consumed roughly thirty minutes before workout, another fourth is drank roughly fifteen minutes before workout and the remainder is drank during workout. But if one is unable to take in that much liquid in such a short span, the remainder is consumed post workout. As I said before, my recovery has NEVER been better. I bust my tail in the gym and wake the next morning with very little to no soreness.


Regarding IBB, I started it the Friday it came out. I think CT's an intelligent trainer and this program is unlike anything I've ever done. Change is good.

[Hardnutcheck]

Want stims!!!!! Going through all my free samples of preworkouts hoping they will last until I may acquire MM. Almost threw up with nano vapor tonight.

[blueboy22]

Want stims!!!!! Going through all my free samples of preworkouts hoping they will last until I may acquire MM. Almost threw up with nano vapor tonight.

I'll be using my first serving of MM for tomorrows workout. I can't wait...