cutlers come back
- 06-10-2012, 10:33 AM
- 06-10-2012, 09:43 PM
All the offseason pics I've seen lately, Phil is dwarfing Jay
- 06-13-2012, 09:52 AM
I dunno about Jay anymore....
His time may have passed.
06-15-2012, 06:40 PM
06-15-2012, 06:51 PM
Last news I heard about Jay was he shot back up to 280 bit in the offseason phase. His original offseason weight is 300-310. Sorry but 20lbs off his offseason frame makes a difference. He needs to be confident in his game plan. His physique is great but he should take the year off and jump back up to 300 and work on bringing his physique back up to par. He should focus 1 year on his training, his new supplement company Alpha Helix and also his Cutler Athletics clothing line. I'd even say do next years Arnold Classic to see if a year off made a difference in his competitive edge against guys his size. What do you guys think?
06-16-2012, 09:04 AM
It's a shame too because Jay is a great bodybuilder who would have won much more O's but was around when only 1 man dominated the game; Ronnie Coleman.Originally Posted by doggy_dog
06-16-2012, 02:52 PM
im a huge jay fan. to keep it real ronnies best was in 98,look at shows from 98...like the british grand prix. ronnie was on his way out befor he had to deal with jay. im on board jay comeing back,i don't want to find another team, ya know. but at the same time, id have to say i'll be suprized if he makes it happen,...of course theres all political stuff too, when jay walked out at the mr.o i was like "h***y s**t!!! he looked sharp,full,ect, then phil walked out, and he looked good, i was like "nice" i've never seen em look bad,..did he win? there was alot of phil hype at the time and for good reason, it my have helped him a lil.dont' get me wrong phil is grate,and hes gonna get better, so jay has alot of work to do. as far as branch gos i hate to say it ARJRCOX branch is a beast, and he'll push other guys out of the game, but i dont see em in the top 4.
06-16-2012, 03:26 PM
Aesthetically Jay and Branch are nowhere near Heath. Jay and Branch have to be spot on with their condition to compete.
Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons
06-16-2012, 09:26 PM
I think Phil is the man until he does something wrong. Don't see anyone at their best beating Phil at his.
06-17-2012, 03:43 PM
I don't know... Kai Greene is not someone to ignore... He mite surprise a lota people... I'm a big fan on Kai's
06-17-2012, 05:23 PM
If Kai can make his waist slimmer than I think he's gonna take it. Unless another polital contribution ($$$$) from MuscleTech gives the MT athletes an edge over every1 else. Since Ronnie Coleman lost to Jay every Mr.O was a MuscleTech athleteOriginally Posted by Mkspillai
06-17-2012, 05:42 PM
06-17-2012, 06:25 PM
if yr not one of JOES kids things might not go so well.....IM JUST SAY"N.........
06-17-2012, 06:28 PM
Hmmm never looked at it that way... Just fig Jay was the best and then Phil got better... Didn't look at it as something to do with muscletech.. Apart from two good signings..Originally Posted by VS91588
But I do believe it's only a matter of time before Kai takes over... Watched a lot of Kai's videos and he seems like a great guy too... Seems like a down to earth kinda guy And a great guy to listen to....
06-17-2012, 06:42 PM
Jay could comeback although it's unlikely. IMO Branch and Kai can't compete, I don't like Branches look and Kai just focus on mass too much off season to come in with the taper and small waist. It will be down to Jay and Phil and Phil will win out.
06-17-2012, 08:29 PM
Don't 4get Dexter JacksonOriginally Posted by Mkspillai
06-17-2012, 10:28 PM
I don't think dexter Jackson is ever gonna win again... I don't think he should have won the last time he did... Really think he can beat phil, jay and Kai?????? DoubtfulOriginally Posted by VS91588
06-18-2012, 09:05 AM
yeah,the fights between phil and kai.im a dex fan also but he wont get the o.
06-18-2012, 09:50 AM
No I mean he won Mr.O and is a MuscleTech athlete. They downgraded him to their Six Star lineOriginally Posted by Mkspillai
06-18-2012, 10:34 AM
Big fan of dexter, but a win at the O, is outta reach for him IMO.
06-18-2012, 10:48 AM
Once again I didn't say he will win Mr.O... I was saying that ever since Coleman lost to Jay and MuscleTech started sponsoring the Olympia every Mr.O has been a MuscleTech Athlete.. Jay, Dexter, Heath... And they been hyping up Branch for the past 2 years. Don't get me wrong Branch made amazing improvements but the way they talk about him it sounds like they are already giving him the titleOriginally Posted by tilldeath
06-18-2012, 12:07 PM
I get what u mean.... It's true... Its been muscletech all the way...But Branch has been terrific of recent... Then again.. I'd see Kai winning before branch would...Originally Posted by VS91588
06-18-2012, 01:21 PM
06-18-2012, 02:35 PM
I know ....a bit too monster than bodybuilder... LolOriginally Posted by ISU152
06-18-2012, 03:08 PM
I'm a kai fan as well but Joe wont let a fruit molester win. Add in that kai is sponsored by a smaller supp company I don't think Phil loses for a while.
06-18-2012, 03:41 PM
Too bad that's the case... Cuz Kai is a great ambassador for the sport... Great guyOriginally Posted by sp3Hybrid
06-18-2012, 04:12 PM
Who do you guys like for the 212's (used to be 202 not anymore).. I like Jose Raymond
06-18-2012, 04:25 PM
English is the champ with 10 lbs of room this year. Sami al Haddad is the future of 212 I think but who knows.
06-19-2012, 11:35 AM
big fan of english as well, kinda sad to see the 202's go last year.
06-19-2012, 01:12 PM
Yeah those 202s are monsters. They just gonna keep raising the weight class. If they do than they should just let them all verse eachother. I liked it better in the golden age of bodybuilding when it was only 2 classes. Under 200lbs and over 200lbs because bigger isn't always better. Every1 brings a different package to the stage and te smaller guy can in fact have better dimensions than the bigger guyOriginally Posted by tilldeath
06-19-2012, 05:44 PM
06-19-2012, 06:17 PM
Is it me or did Jay look a lot smaller than his usual self ???????
06-19-2012, 07:18 PM
He does. That's why I think he should take the full year offOriginally Posted by Mkspillai
06-21-2012, 06:21 AM
phil looks absolutelty rediculous if he keeps doing what hes doin then no one will beat him...that picture side by side with jay really sets them apart. jay cutler is the fukn man tho, but phil looks like a superhero's superhero. and they are vry close friends i doubt jay has any hard feelings
06-21-2012, 10:19 AM
As an athlete to the sport of bodybuilding I'm sure Jay wants to retain the title but I would say that other than Arnold Schwarzenegger I believe Jay Cutler is the smartest bodybuilder in terms of business and making $ from bodybuilding. He has his own athletic brand Cutler Athletics, he has his own fitness production company "Swollen Monkey Films", he has his own bodybuilding contest in Boston "The Jay Cutler Classic" and just began his own Supplement Company "Alpha Helix". He just sponsored a fitness competitor Mark Anthony (i guess wants to start small with the fitness and eventually have an upcoming sponsored bodybuilder and female athletes)... And this is all after selling his DVDs and other sponsorships that pay him to endorse their products. Products such as MuscleTech, Fat Gripz, Smart Shake and others too many to mention lol... He's got bank bro!Originally Posted by cashinova87
06-21-2012, 12:17 PM
06-21-2012, 12:57 PM
Yeah I agree he's an athlete 1st an businessman 2nd... He deff wants the O back but I think he's rushing it. Just cuz his bi is heale up doesn't mean he should rush it. Take the year off to regroup his game plan. But what do I know I'm not Mr.O I'm sure he has many ppl to make sure his game plan is 100%. It's deff going to be an interesting year in bodybuilding. I can't wait to see whats going to happenOriginally Posted by cashinova87
06-22-2012, 09:08 PM
He's competing against victor Martinez now too
06-22-2012, 09:19 PM
Yeah Victor lost size too because he got into some legal issues. But even though Jay was recovering from his Bi surgery he deff still juiced cuz he wasnt in trouble w/ the law and he was continuing to do Legs. Theory is if you keep your legs in shape and big it will help inhibit gains to your overall bodyOriginally Posted by sp3Hybrid
06-23-2012, 05:02 PM
Woww Victor Martinez is gonna do the Olympia too this year. Just announced on MuscularDevelopment's FaceBook
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