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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfe14 View Post
    Ok so lets get this straight once in for all...Ive researched for a yr and everything I have read says 500 mg a wk is a normal and safe cycle...Now you are saying 200??? What should i do?? I have everything i need including PCT and I am ready to start jan 1st
    500 is ok. its what lots of guys do for a first cycle, but its probably not necessary. Figure your natural production is around 100mg a week, so even 300mg a week is good for gains for most guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    500 is ok. its what lots of guys do for a first cycle, but its probably not necessary. Figure your natural production is around 100mg a week, so even 300mg a week is good for gains for most guys.
    thanks easy...so if i do 300 i can just shoot all once a week?? or should i still pin twice a wk? im kickstarting with SD so would this still be a great cycle at 300 for 12 wks?? also with test E do you notice any excess fat gain around the core or would i see a reduction??
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    you can all at once or twice a week, the net effective difference is pretty small. you should with good dietary control gain a nice solid 12-15lbs on that, while leaning out a little. In the end adding or losing fat is more about diet control. Its part of why so many guys recommend higher doses of anabolics, the more anabolic in you the sloppier your diet can be and still get good results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    you can all at once or twice a week, the net effective difference is pretty small. you should with good dietary control gain a nice solid 12-15lbs on that, while leaning out a little. In the end adding or losing fat is more about diet control. Its part of why so many guys recommend higher doses of anabolics, the more anabolic in you the sloppier your diet can be and still get good results.
    supposse i do 300 for 6 wks and then bump to 500 for 6 wks??? would that be smart or should I keep it consitant thru out??
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    that will work. gains tend to slow after week 8 or so anyhow, so it won't hurt
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    You can tell the guys at my gym that are using... acne all over, mainly their back... and one guy has it all over his arms to (but he shaves which can cause that as well) but man... a lot of them have such bad scarring... not worth it imo to get that big yet have nasty looking skin lol, least get on some antibiotics or something to help/clear it up.
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    how about acne on face???
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfe14 View Post
    how about acne on face???
    btw its largely genetic. I've never had acne, never get spots, and Ive been running some crazy cycles for 13 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfe14 View Post
    how about acne on face???
    The strange thing is, I only used to get acne on the face as an adolescent, no body acne ever in my past.

    But anabolics almost always give me body acne, and never facial acne. Maybe one or two random spots on the face, but basically nothing. Also, it seems like it's mostly PH's and DS's that do it to me, not test and such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    The strange thing is, I only used to get acne on the face as an adolescent, no body acne ever in my past.

    But anabolics almost always give me body acne, and never facial acne. Maybe one or two random spots on the face, but basically nothing. Also, it seems like it's mostly PH's and DS's that do it to me, not test and such.
    Hmm. It's interesting that Test doesn't break you out anymore, and PH's and DS's are breaking you out in a different spot from where you used to break out as a teen. Mby your haveing a toxicity breakout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    Hmm. It's interesting that Test doesn't break you out anymore, and PH's and DS's are breaking you out in a different spot from where you used to break out as a teen. Mby your haveing a toxicity breakout?
    Injectable test doesn't raise my dht as high as it does for most people (as shown in my labs). I can use up to 700mg of test and not get breakouts. But if I am slathering test cream on my nuts for a DHT boost, I get the super small rash-like zits on my upper arms, and sometimes in other areas, as well as the odd large one on my back. My dermatologist said it's due to my skin-type though (for the rash-like ones on the arms).

    Orals that convert into unnaturally occuring hormones do strange & unpredictable things to different hormones with me though..

    For example, epistane at normal doses is totally fine, but at higher doses, causes my E2 to greatly elevate (which is strange considering how it works) and causes acne, even on my chest, which I rarely ever get.

    I don't really touch 19-nor's very often (if at all anymore), only tried it at a lower dose a couple times, but deca caused a small amount of acne for me, in strange places where I'd never had it before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    Honestly, it's all about low dose accutane. 20mg or 10mg ed. Those huge doses will dry joints. But the low doses work, especially if you start it right before you expect acne to start, and it has little sides at all at that dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    Injectable test doesn't raise my dht as high as it does for most people (as shown in my labs). I can use up to 700mg of test and not get breakouts. But if I am slathering test cream on my nuts for a DHT boost, I get the super small rash-like zits on my upper arms, and sometimes in other areas, as well as the odd large one on my back. My dermatologist said it's due to my skin-type though (for the rash-like ones on the arms).

    Orals that convert into unnaturally occuring hormones do strange & unpredictable things to different hormones with me though..

    For example, epistane at normal doses is totally fine, but at higher doses, causes my E2 to greatly elevate (which is strange considering how it works) and causes acne, even on my chest, which I rarely ever get.

    I don't really touch 19-nor's very often (if at all anymore), only tried it at a lower dose a couple times, but deca caused a small amount of acne for me, in strange places where I'd never had it before.
    we are identical. I have the exact same reactions to everything you mentioned besides 19-nor (will never use). Epi bloats me and causes me to need more arrimidex. I think this is because it lowers SHBG to zero freeing up alot more T if you are on TRT.

    I get tiny blackhead zits all over my upper tricep/bicep area and all over my back. Tiny hard blackheads. Very small like a rash, but not big swollen red acne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post

    I get tiny blackhead zits all over my upper tricep/bicep area and all over my back. Tiny hard blackheads. Very small like a rash, but not big swollen red acne.
    Yeah man, I hate that crap, trying to fight it off right now. I may start some low dose accutane just for that alone. It's frustrating... and spreads like a rash. Similar to folliculitis but it's not, according to my dermatologist. The good thing about this type of acne is that that scarring and redness should fade much faster than the cystic type.
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    i got gyno of 3weeks on dbol, its a lump about the size of a penny under my right nipple, i went to the doctors he sent me to the hospital to see a speicalist at the hospital he had a feel of it and said it should just go with in time, im no doctor but i cant see the lump jst going away. he put a huge needle in me which was the most painful thing ive done in my life and said he will have results for me in 2 weeks. Has any1 ever had theres just go away????? ( or smaller ) thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by viper23 View Post
    i got gyno of 3weeks on dbol, its a lump about the size of a penny under my right nipple, i went to the doctors he sent me to the hospital to see a speicalist at the hospital he had a feel of it and said it should just go with in time, im no doctor but i cant see the lump jst going away. he put a huge needle in me which was the most painful thing ive done in my life and said he will have results for me in 2 weeks. Has any1 ever had theres just go away????? ( or smaller ) thanks,
    Run an AI, and maybe even a serm too. Masteron can help too.
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    Because REAL men get bacne brotha
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCV3 View Post
    Having money has nothing to do with getting acne.

    1000mg of paleolithic acid a day with a couple cups of dokudami tea will clear/prevent it in a month or two. Plus taking 2 showers a day.

    You don't need high end dermatologists.
    where do you get paleolithic acid??
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon View Post
    Because REAL men get bacne brotha
    no, cuz you get back acnes doesn't mean everyone else has to, back acnes and back hair are gross...

    It's like saying

    - Because REAL men go bald brotha
    - Because REAL men get bitch tits brotha
    - Because Real men get shrunken ballz brotha

    A real man is a man that has the genetics to Say **** you to steroids and get minimal side effects
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markusrulezzz View Post
    no, cuz you get back acnes doesn't mean everyone else has to, back acnes and back hair are gross...

    It's like saying

    - Because REAL men go bald brotha
    - Because REAL men get bitch tits brotha
    - Because Real men get shrunken ballz brotha

    A real man is a man that has the genetics to Say **** you to steroids and get minimal side effects
    dude...it was a joke. Hence the smiley face
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon View Post
    dude...it was a joke. Hence the smiley face
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    Quote Originally Posted by viper23 View Post
    i got gyno of 3weeks on dbol, its a lump about the size of a penny under my right nipple, i went to the doctors he sent me to the hospital to see a speicalist at the hospital he had a feel of it and said it should just go with in time, im no doctor but i cant see the lump jst going away. he put a huge needle in me which was the most painful thing ive done in my life and said he will have results for me in 2 weeks. Has any1 ever had theres just go away????? ( or smaller ) thanks,
    They stuck the needle in your lump in your nipple?
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    I am interested in this low dose accutane idea ( 10mg ed )

    Has any1 here done this ???

    If so how long did you stay on it for ? Did you start mid cycle and during pct ?
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    If you want to run low dose accutane, the trick is to start it before the period where you expect acne. 3-4 weeks before should be good. You can run it for months this way.

    A typical accutane regime, when run solo and monitored by a Dr, is about 80mg per day, and for several months to get a more permanent effect.

    10mg per day, for prior, during and after the time needed, should suffice and give little to no sides as long as the proper precautions are met. Keep in mind it takes time for it to start working, and many people also break out badly during PCT, so plan around this if you want to try. I don't condone the use of prescription drugs without a prescription though, this is solely for role-playing purposes and discussion.
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