How do bodybuilders not have acne?

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  1. Anyone try evening primrose oil?


  2. im starting my first test E cycle jan 1st at 500 mg a wk for prob 12 wks....Is acne prominant normally on the face??? I know back and shoulders is pretty common but I'm not concerned too much about that being winter and all, but the face would def be a problem
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by wolfe14 View Post
    im starting my first test E cycle jan 1st at 500 mg a wk for prob 12 wks....Is acne prominant normally on the face??? I know back and shoulders is pretty common but I'm not concerned too much about that being winter and all, but the face would def be a problem
    I think a lot of it's genetics. Your doing half a gram for your first cycle? You are aware that people generally produce under 100mg correct?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    I think a lot of it's genetics. Your doing half a gram for your first cycle? You are aware that people generally produce under 100mg correct?
    yes i plan on 500 mg...based on all my research and from what everyone has told me that is a standard begginers cycle...Are you saying this is too much??

  5. Quote Originally Posted by wolfe14 View Post
    yes i plan on 500 mg...based on all my research and from what everyone has told me that is a standard begginers cycle...Are you saying this is too much??
    I knoiw some people start at 200mg's, but I guess if you feel comfortrable with the research youve done then...
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  6. I've seen Ronnie up close as well as Flex Wheeler, back in the day, and they both had some acne, not much but some break outs. With that being said, they can easily afford treatments, such as most others, to get rid of it.

    When I would get it, I could take RetinA for 4 weeks and have it completely gone. Some people have to use it for 8-12 weeks.

  7. up close to bodybuilders i see a decent amount of zits. are you talking about their pictures in magazines? cause that ****s photoshopped out.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Type O Hero View Post
    Haha, thanks to this thread I now think professional bodybuilding is even lamer than before!

    Pro bodybuilding = science projects

    At least pro bodybuilders back in the 50s, 60s and 70s had asthetic physiques. Even some of the more massive ones. Pro bodybuilding competitions are almost like freak shows. It's pretty bad when even the pros from back in the day say the same thing.

    There ya go brother! 100% on the dot!
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Having been on a super high TRT (300-400mg/wk) dose for a while (not anymore, now a normal doctor supervised dose of 150/wk) I can say the the acne came at the beginning, and then more or less disappeared by itself over time. I've done short term blasts at really ludicrous test levels during the time of high TRT dosing and it didn't cause any additional acne
    **** sake lol, a doctor prescribing 400mg/wk of test is a ****ing hero

  10. Ok so lets get this straight once in for all...Ive researched for a yr and everything I have read says 500 mg a wk is a normal and safe cycle...Now you are saying 200??? What should i do?? I have everything i need including PCT and I am ready to start jan 1st

  11. Quote Originally Posted by wolfe14 View Post
    Ok so lets get this straight once in for all...Ive researched for a yr and everything I have read says 500 mg a wk is a normal and safe cycle...Now you are saying 200??? What should i do?? I have everything i need including PCT and I am ready to start jan 1st
    500 is ok. its what lots of guys do for a first cycle, but its probably not necessary. Figure your natural production is around 100mg a week, so even 300mg a week is good for gains for most guys.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    500 is ok. its what lots of guys do for a first cycle, but its probably not necessary. Figure your natural production is around 100mg a week, so even 300mg a week is good for gains for most guys.
    thanks easy...so if i do 300 i can just shoot all once a week?? or should i still pin twice a wk? im kickstarting with SD so would this still be a great cycle at 300 for 12 wks?? also with test E do you notice any excess fat gain around the core or would i see a reduction??

  13. you can all at once or twice a week, the net effective difference is pretty small. you should with good dietary control gain a nice solid 12-15lbs on that, while leaning out a little. In the end adding or losing fat is more about diet control. Its part of why so many guys recommend higher doses of anabolics, the more anabolic in you the sloppier your diet can be and still get good results.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    you can all at once or twice a week, the net effective difference is pretty small. you should with good dietary control gain a nice solid 12-15lbs on that, while leaning out a little. In the end adding or losing fat is more about diet control. Its part of why so many guys recommend higher doses of anabolics, the more anabolic in you the sloppier your diet can be and still get good results.
    supposse i do 300 for 6 wks and then bump to 500 for 6 wks??? would that be smart or should I keep it consitant thru out??

  15. that will work. gains tend to slow after week 8 or so anyhow, so it won't hurt

  16. You can tell the guys at my gym that are using... acne all over, mainly their back... and one guy has it all over his arms to (but he shaves which can cause that as well) but man... a lot of them have such bad scarring... not worth it imo to get that big yet have nasty looking skin lol, least get on some antibiotics or something to help/clear it up.

  17. how about acne on face???

  18. Quote Originally Posted by wolfe14 View Post
    how about acne on face???
    btw its largely genetic. I've never had acne, never get spots, and Ive been running some crazy cycles for 13 years

  19. Quote Originally Posted by wolfe14 View Post
    how about acne on face???
    The strange thing is, I only used to get acne on the face as an adolescent, no body acne ever in my past.

    But anabolics almost always give me body acne, and never facial acne. Maybe one or two random spots on the face, but basically nothing. Also, it seems like it's mostly PH's and DS's that do it to me, not test and such.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    The strange thing is, I only used to get acne on the face as an adolescent, no body acne ever in my past.

    But anabolics almost always give me body acne, and never facial acne. Maybe one or two random spots on the face, but basically nothing. Also, it seems like it's mostly PH's and DS's that do it to me, not test and such.
    Hmm. It's interesting that Test doesn't break you out anymore, and PH's and DS's are breaking you out in a different spot from where you used to break out as a teen. Mby your haveing a toxicity breakout?

  21. I have this big nasty zit on my left shoulder. I think I'm just gonna cut it off and be done with it....


  22. Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    Hmm. It's interesting that Test doesn't break you out anymore, and PH's and DS's are breaking you out in a different spot from where you used to break out as a teen. Mby your haveing a toxicity breakout?
    Injectable test doesn't raise my dht as high as it does for most people (as shown in my labs). I can use up to 700mg of test and not get breakouts. But if I am slathering test cream on my nuts for a DHT boost, I get the super small rash-like zits on my upper arms, and sometimes in other areas, as well as the odd large one on my back. My dermatologist said it's due to my skin-type though (for the rash-like ones on the arms).

    Orals that convert into unnaturally occuring hormones do strange & unpredictable things to different hormones with me though..

    For example, epistane at normal doses is totally fine, but at higher doses, causes my E2 to greatly elevate (which is strange considering how it works) and causes acne, even on my chest, which I rarely ever get.

    I don't really touch 19-nor's very often (if at all anymore), only tried it at a lower dose a couple times, but deca caused a small amount of acne for me, in strange places where I'd never had it before.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    Honestly, it's all about low dose accutane. 20mg or 10mg ed. Those huge doses will dry joints. But the low doses work, especially if you start it right before you expect acne to start, and it has little sides at all at that dose.
    Quoted for truth. ^^This is why they don't have acne...
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by kingdong View Post
    Is that you?
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by Gutterpump View Post
    Injectable test doesn't raise my dht as high as it does for most people (as shown in my labs). I can use up to 700mg of test and not get breakouts. But if I am slathering test cream on my nuts for a DHT boost, I get the super small rash-like zits on my upper arms, and sometimes in other areas, as well as the odd large one on my back. My dermatologist said it's due to my skin-type though (for the rash-like ones on the arms).

    Orals that convert into unnaturally occuring hormones do strange & unpredictable things to different hormones with me though..

    For example, epistane at normal doses is totally fine, but at higher doses, causes my E2 to greatly elevate (which is strange considering how it works) and causes acne, even on my chest, which I rarely ever get.

    I don't really touch 19-nor's very often (if at all anymore), only tried it at a lower dose a couple times, but deca caused a small amount of acne for me, in strange places where I'd never had it before.
    we are identical. I have the exact same reactions to everything you mentioned besides 19-nor (will never use). Epi bloats me and causes me to need more arrimidex. I think this is because it lowers SHBG to zero freeing up alot more T if you are on TRT.

    I get tiny blackhead zits all over my upper tricep/bicep area and all over my back. Tiny hard blackheads. Very small like a rash, but not big swollen red acne.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by monsterbox View Post

    I get tiny blackhead zits all over my upper tricep/bicep area and all over my back. Tiny hard blackheads. Very small like a rash, but not big swollen red acne.
    Yeah man, I hate that crap, trying to fight it off right now. I may start some low dose accutane just for that alone. It's frustrating... and spreads like a rash. Similar to folliculitis but it's not, according to my dermatologist. The good thing about this type of acne is that that scarring and redness should fade much faster than the cystic type.

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