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    I was just curious as to what everyone's preference was? I currently use Nike wrestling shoes. Just wondering if there was anything thing out there, that might be a little more user friendly?


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    I recently made the switch to Chuck's. Best decision I've made in awhile. Are your shoes split-sole or a one-piece?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I recently made the switch to Chuck's. Best decision I've made in awhile. Are your shoes split-sole or a one-piece?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Neck View Post
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    Those could work since it's a one-piece and it has a lot of ankle support as well. I've never attempted the big lifts in wrestling shoes. An easy way to tell if they're affecting your lifts is the sticking point. On deads, are you weak off the floor or the lock-out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Those could work since it's a one-piece and it has a lot of ankle support as well. I've never attempted the big lifts in wrestling shoes. An easy way to tell if they're affecting your lifts is the sticking point. On deads, are you weak off the floor or the lock-out?


    @ lock-out. And I'm extremely flat footed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Neck View Post
    @ lock-out. And I'm extremely flat footed.
    I'm also very flat-footed, so I feel your pain there. If you're weak at the lockout, then I'd say the shoes are doing their job and you're good. If you struggle off the floor, chances are it's the shoes messing up your burst at the bottom.
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    I deadlift in socks or suit slippers. If I am requited to wear some sort of shoe it is a high top chucks unlaced almost all hte way down. If I'm pulling sumo the laces are done.

    Squating chucks high tops laced up tight if squatting PL wide. Narrow stance New Balance cross trainers.

    I will say since I train at home now unless the garage is to cold I do everything barefoot no socks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelwolf View Post
    I deadlift in socks or suit slippers. If I am requited to wear some sort of shoe it is a high top chucks unlaced almost all hte way down. If I'm pulling sumo the laces are done.

    Squating chucks high tops laced up tight if squatting PL wide. Narrow stance New Balance cross trainers.

    I will say since I train at home now unless the garage is to cold I do everything barefoot no socks.
    I should mention also flat footed
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    vibram 5 fingers KSO trek shoes are nice as well if you like going barefoot + a little added comfort on ur feet..

    also doing daily things barefoot increases proper posture + returns your feets arches
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    For wide stance SQ and DL I like chuck taylor's. For raw squatting with a narrower stance, I use an olympic weightlifting shoe with a small heel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsky90 View Post
    vibram 5 fingers KSO trek shoes are nice as well if you like going barefoot + a little added comfort on ur feet..

    also doing daily things barefoot increases proper posture + returns your feets arches
    Citation, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsky90 View Post
    vibram 5 fingers KSO trek shoes are nice as well if you like going barefoot + a little added comfort on ur feet..

    also doing daily things barefoot increases proper posture + returns your feets arches
    I've heard this repeated by many people as well. I've not seen any scientific evidence for this. Much of the "support" for the arches in the feet is due to bony structure and ligament support. If some of this structure has started to become compromised I'm not sure that strengthening the musculature can completely correct it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SRS2000 View Post
    I've heard this repeated by many people as well. I've not seen any scientific evidence for this. Much of the "support" for the arches in the feet is due to bony structure and ligament support. If some of this structure has started to become compromised I'm not sure that strengthening the musculature can completely correct it.
    It is akin to changing the shape of a muscle once it has fully matured.
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    i believe over a consistent time period of proper posture the body will adapt to withstand the stress

    just throwing this out there, has anyone heard of prolotherapy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsky90 View Post
    i believe over a consistent time period of proper posture the body will adapt to withstand the stress

    just throwing this out there, has anyone heard of prolotherapy?
    That statement doesn't make any sense. If the body's posture is correct, then the amount of stress will be much less than it would be with improper posture.

    Also, prolotherapy pertains to connective tissue and not to actual muscle tissue. The foot and ankle complex is very, very unique in terms of how much one minor difference can change the dynamic of a person's gait.
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    Looks like Chucks & Wrestling shoes are preferred!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Neck View Post
    I was just curious as to what everyone's preference was? I currently use Nike wrestling shoes. Just wondering if there was anything thing out there, that might be a little more user friendly?


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    Will someone give me some actual citation as to how barefoot training is good for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Will someone give me some actual citation as to how barefoot training is good for you?
    I dont really care about the "scientific reasons"

    here are mine though:
    When I was powerlifting I wanted to limit range of motion as much as I could a CM makes a difference hence pulling barefoot. I also found my body pulled better in the position.

    Why do I train kung fu barefoot. When I am first learning new things I can grip the ground better so to speak barefoot. When things are getting down to a better feel I switch over and train some in shoes to fit training for life. Also if I was ever to do a wushu match you are in barefoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelwolf View Post
    I dont really care about the "scientific reasons"

    here are mine though:
    When I was powerlifting I wanted to limit range of motion as much as I could a CM makes a difference hence pulling barefoot. I also found my body pulled better in the position.

    Why do I train kung fu barefoot. When I am first learning new things I can grip the ground better so to speak barefoot. When things are getting down to a better feel I switch over and train some in shoes to fit training for life. Also if I was ever to do a wushu match you are in barefoot.
    If there's no evidence, then it's just more crap being spewed out as rhetoric. Nothing has plagued S&C like erroneous information.

    The kung fu training is a completely different argument. That's simply training appropriately for the environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    If there's no evidence, then it's just more crap being spewed out as rhetoric. Nothing has plagued S&C like erroneous information.

    The kung fu training is a completely different argument. That's simply training appropriately for the environment.
    I believe it comes down to training for what you feel is right. It's basic math pulling 12 inches vs pulling 11.5 there is less to pull. I'll nitpick for a little less. The fact I pull better barefoot is up for discussion. Is the fact I pull better because of the missing space or because I pull barefoot I have no idea. I will say this I feel much more comfortable training barefoot. So maybe it is a mental thing I have no idea. It not something I will say oh everyone should do it. I don't really believe in a 100% everybody should mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty33 View Post
    wrestling shoes are good five fingers are best.
    http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/pro...s_bikila_m.cfm
    Well, I just ordered a pair, for a c-note I figured it would be worth a try. I'll report back accordingly. They do look goofier than $hit, I must add!!!
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    I have Five Fingers that I sometimes wear but if it's not too cold I lift barefoot.
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    I had vibrams and am extremely flat footed. They were a b!tch. Returned them. I stick to my wrestling shoes.
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    my feet have no arch whatsoever. I also have never considered shoe choice as something that would hamper my strength or my form. I guess I'll try lifting in some chucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    If there's no evidence, then it's just more crap being spewed out as rhetoric. Nothing has plagued S&C like erroneous information.

    The kung fu training is a completely different argument. That's simply training appropriately for the environment.
    idk what your deal is.. most shoes nowadays cause heel striking which is def bad for youre posterior chain..

    yu dont need scientific evidence to understand that if you have good feet you can train barefoot and have comfort+preformance.. its merely common sense positive comfort > science

    for the flat feet you can reshape by orthestotics (typo) or things such as golf ball rolling or yoga.. the body will right itself given time and consistency
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsky90 View Post
    idk what your deal is.. most shoes nowadays cause heel striking which is def bad for youre posterior chain..

    yu dont need scientific evidence to understand that if you have good feet you can train barefoot and have comfort+preformance.. its merely common sense positive comfort > science

    for the flat feet you can reshape by orthestotics (typo) or things such as golf ball rolling or yoga.. the body will right itself given time and consistency
    After a certain age, you cannot reshape the fascia of the foot. There is not a universal shoe that can be used in all situations despite what marketing schemes are out there will tell you. Train appropriately for your environment and you'll be fine.
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    well thats a good opinion, but i dont see scientific evidence for why once you hit 40 your arches are doomed

    people under age of 25 suffer from plantar fasciitis but there are stretches and therapy to redevelop the arch and reduce heel pain
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsky90 View Post
    well thats a good opinion, but i dont see scientific evidence for why once you hit 40 your arches are doomed

    people under age of 25 suffer from plantar fasciitis but there are stretches and therapy to redevelop the arch and reduce heel pain
    First you say to ignore a lack of scientific evidence and then you ask for it? Seems like you're just set on an opinion without any merit. You honestly expect to be able to reshape tendons, ligaments, and bones past youth? If so, then you're just a fool.

    Plantar fasciitis is a condition that is not well understood. Usually, it is caused by improper support and/or excessive weight, but there are a myriad of factors that play into this.
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    chuck taylors or socks for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    First you say to ignore a lack of scientific evidence and then you ask for it? Seems like you're just set on an opinion without any merit. You honestly expect to be able to reshape tendons, ligaments, and bones past youth? If so, then you're just a fool.

    Plantar fasciitis is a condition that is not well understood. Usually, it is caused by improper support and/or excessive weight, but there are a myriad of factors that play into this.

    i dont think you understand many things, its ok though. the body can and will change under enough duress and consistency.. just have to put your mind into it and it will happen.. change is not for the weak minded
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsky90 View Post
    i dont think you understand many things, its ok though. the body can and will change under enough duress and consistency.. just have to put your mind into it and it will happen.. change is not for the weak minded
    Thank you for enlightening me about Wolff's and Davis' Law. I'm already well aware about the bodies ability to adapt in both bone and connective tissue.

    I clearly don't understand how this works. The Master's degree and CSCS clearly indicate that I lack knowledge in the field...
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    [QUOTE=Rodja;2676632]Thank you for enlightening me about Wolff's and Davis' Law. I'm already well aware about the bodies ability to adapt in both bone and connective tissue.QUOTE]

    problem is i didnt even study those two, i just use my common sense and experience
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsky90 View Post

    problem is i didnt even study those two, i just use my common sense and experience
    That's pretty arrogant of you. Arguing with a practitioner when you admittedly have no basis for your position. Clearly, your opinion > science.
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    Rodja, did you take a look at the Diesel shoes in my thread below? Maybe you haven't seen them in person, but maybe you can tell by the shape if they'd be a good shoe to at least try? I've just been using a Puma with a fairly flat sole. I'm wanting to get a little ankle support as I near the 400 lb DL mark with my chicken legs though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machwon04 View Post
    Rodja, did you take a look at the Diesel shoes in my thread below? Maybe you haven't seen them in person, but maybe you can tell by the shape if they'd be a good shoe to at least try? I've just been using a Puma with a fairly flat sole. I'm wanting to get a little ankle support as I near the 400 lb DL mark with my chicken legs though.
    I didn't look at it. Link?
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