I was just curious as to what everyone's preference was? I currently use Nike wrestling shoes. Just wondering if there was anything thing out there, that might be a little more user friendly?
The Neck
The Neck
One-peiceI recently made the switch to Chuck's. Best decision I've made in awhile. Are your shoes split-sole or a one-piece?
Those could work since it's a one-piece and it has a lot of ankle support as well. I've never attempted the big lifts in wrestling shoes. An easy way to tell if they're affecting your lifts is the sticking point. On deads, are you weak off the floor or the lock-out?One-peice
Those could work since it's a one-piece and it has a lot of ankle support as well. I've never attempted the big lifts in wrestling shoes. An easy way to tell if they're affecting your lifts is the sticking point. On deads, are you weak off the floor or the lock-out?
I'm also very flat-footed, so I feel your pain there. If you're weak at the lockout, then I'd say the shoes are doing their job and you're good. If you struggle off the floor, chances are it's the shoes messing up your burst at the bottom.@ lock-out. And I'm extremely flat footed.
I should mention also flat footedI deadlift in socks or suit slippers. If I am requited to wear some sort of shoe it is a high top chucks unlaced almost all hte way down. If I'm pulling sumo the laces are done.
Squating chucks high tops laced up tight if squatting PL wide. Narrow stance New Balance cross trainers.
I will say since I train at home now unless the garage is to cold I do everything barefoot no socks.
Citation, please.vibram 5 fingers KSO trek shoes are nice as well if you like going barefoot + a little added comfort on ur feet..
also doing daily things barefoot increases proper posture + returns your feets arches
I've heard this repeated by many people as well. I've not seen any scientific evidence for this. Much of the "support" for the arches in the feet is due to bony structure and ligament support. If some of this structure has started to become compromised I'm not sure that strengthening the musculature can completely correct it.vibram 5 fingers KSO trek shoes are nice as well if you like going barefoot + a little added comfort on ur feet..
also doing daily things barefoot increases proper posture + returns your feets arches
It is akin to changing the shape of a muscle once it has fully matured.I've heard this repeated by many people as well. I've not seen any scientific evidence for this. Much of the "support" for the arches in the feet is due to bony structure and ligament support. If some of this structure has started to become compromised I'm not sure that strengthening the musculature can completely correct it.
That statement doesn't make any sense. If the body's posture is correct, then the amount of stress will be much less than it would be with improper posture.i believe over a consistent time period of proper posture the body will adapt to withstand the stress
just throwing this out there, has anyone heard of prolotherapy?
wrestling shoes are good five fingers are best.I was just curious as to what everyone's preference was? I currently use Nike wrestling shoes. Just wondering if there was anything thing out there, that might be a little more user friendly?
The Neck
I dont really care about the "scientific reasons"Will someone give me some actual citation as to how barefoot training is good for you?
If there's no evidence, then it's just more crap being spewed out as rhetoric. Nothing has plagued S&C like erroneous information.I dont really care about the "scientific reasons"
here are mine though:
When I was powerlifting I wanted to limit range of motion as much as I could a CM makes a difference hence pulling barefoot. I also found my body pulled better in the position.
Why do I train kung fu barefoot. When I am first learning new things I can grip the ground better so to speak barefoot. When things are getting down to a better feel I switch over and train some in shoes to fit training for life. Also if I was ever to do a wushu match you are in barefoot.
I believe it comes down to training for what you feel is right. It's basic math pulling 12 inches vs pulling 11.5 there is less to pull. I'll nitpick for a little less. The fact I pull better barefoot is up for discussion. Is the fact I pull better because of the missing space or because I pull barefoot I have no idea. I will say this I feel much more comfortable training barefoot. So maybe it is a mental thing I have no idea. It not something I will say oh everyone should do it. I don't really believe in a 100% everybody should mentality.If there's no evidence, then it's just more crap being spewed out as rhetoric. Nothing has plagued S&C like erroneous information.
The kung fu training is a completely different argument. That's simply training appropriately for the environment.
Well, I just ordered a pair, for a c-note I figured it would be worth a try. I'll report back accordingly. They do look goofier than $hit, I must add!!!wrestling shoes are good five fingers are best.
http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/products/products_bikila_m.cfm
idk what your deal is.. most shoes nowadays cause heel striking which is def bad for youre posterior chain..If there's no evidence, then it's just more crap being spewed out as rhetoric. Nothing has plagued S&C like erroneous information.
The kung fu training is a completely different argument. That's simply training appropriately for the environment.
After a certain age, you cannot reshape the fascia of the foot. There is not a universal shoe that can be used in all situations despite what marketing schemes are out there will tell you. Train appropriately for your environment and you'll be fine.idk what your deal is.. most shoes nowadays cause heel striking which is def bad for youre posterior chain..
yu dont need scientific evidence to understand that if you have good feet you can train barefoot and have comfort+preformance.. its merely common sense positive comfort > science
for the flat feet you can reshape by orthestotics (typo) or things such as golf ball rolling or yoga.. the body will right itself given time and consistency
First you say to ignore a lack of scientific evidence and then you ask for it? Seems like you're just set on an opinion without any merit. You honestly expect to be able to reshape tendons, ligaments, and bones past youth? If so, then you're just a fool.well thats a good opinion, but i dont see scientific evidence for why once you hit 40 your arches are doomed
people under age of 25 suffer from plantar fasciitis but there are stretches and therapy to redevelop the arch and reduce heel pain
First you say to ignore a lack of scientific evidence and then you ask for it? Seems like you're just set on an opinion without any merit. You honestly expect to be able to reshape tendons, ligaments, and bones past youth? If so, then you're just a fool.
Plantar fasciitis is a condition that is not well understood. Usually, it is caused by improper support and/or excessive weight, but there are a myriad of factors that play into this.
Thank you for enlightening me about Wolff's and Davis' Law. I'm already well aware about the bodies ability to adapt in both bone and connective tissue.i dont think you understand many things, its ok though. the body can and will change under enough duress and consistency.. just have to put your mind into it and it will happen.. change is not for the weak minded
Thank you for enlightening me about Wolff's and Davis' Law. I'm already well aware about the bodies ability to adapt in both bone and connective tissue.QUOTE]
problem is i didnt even study those two, i just use my common sense and experience
That's pretty arrogant of you. Arguing with a practitioner when you admittedly have no basis for your position. Clearly, your opinion > science. :lol:problem is i didnt even study those two, i just use my common sense and experience
I didn't look at it. Link?Rodja, did you take a look at the Diesel shoes in my thread below? Maybe you haven't seen them in person, but maybe you can tell by the shape if they'd be a good shoe to at least try? I've just been using a Puma with a fairly flat sole. I'm wanting to get a little ankle support as I near the 400 lb DL mark with my chicken legs though.
ya apparently jesus is too :gives:That's pretty arrogant of you. Arguing with a practitioner when you admittedly have no basis for your position. Clearly, your opinion > science. :lol:
Do-Wins are a great cheap oly shoe, very high heel though. I had a custom pair of Adidas that set me back over 300 dollars after all the custom work with an even higher heel. Werksan makes a cheap pair as well, but I have found that the Chinese do make at least one quality product and that is the Do-Win.surprised noone mentioned Do-wins here
I know what you mean; I bought my Chuck's 1/2 size smaller so my feet wouldn't shift.Anyone need a brand new pair of Chuck Taylors in size 12? I bought a pair of the "double upp" Chuck's on Ebay (they have two layers - better ankle support) but they are too long for me. I wore them for all of about 5 minutes. I threw the box away before I even tried them on, but I still even have the tag that comes on them. Great ankle support, just too big for me.
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