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  1. question of form (with video)


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmlqfZHHbTQ&feature=ch annel_page"]YouTube - 495lb Deadlift[/ame]

    this was todays top single (and about my max) at 10 plates. i know i probably shouldnt use straps but i only use them on my top single. after the lift i tore something in my neck and now i cant turn my head left or roll my neck left.

    but how does my form look? am i doing it too close to like a straight leg? my squat is pretty weak at around 300lbs for 5 reps so i try to use more back than legs to get more weight. any advice?


  2. form looks OK, i'd watch that rounded out lower back though. you may try PM'ing kabuki (our resident powerlifter) for a more accurate critique - i'd defer to an experts opinion over mine
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  3. how much do you weigh? you look skinny and pulling 5 plates is good for a skinny dude lol

  4. It doesn't appear you even attempt to arch or lock in your back before you pull. It's tough to keep a perfect arch with a near-max attempt, but you should at least try. Try to arch hard and pick up your chest a bit at the start. Also, don't mess around so long before you pull, get your air, arch your back, and go.
    Ditch the straps and used a mixed grip and/or chalk. Do some separate grip work if you need to. There's no reason you can't hold on to 495.

  5. i weigh more than i look im about 190... been tryin to cut a little lately. i duno where all the weight goes, bf is like 16%

    still over 2.5 times my bodyweight, so im happy
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  6. [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9QWolrKyMc&feature=ch annel_page"]YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.[/nomedia]

    part of the warm up i did 315x5, is this the right kinda setup or do i need to arch more?

  7. Better, but try and arch a little more. It might feel a little weird at first, but long-term I think it will help your strength and keep you safer.

  8. I agree with others here on practicing the lower back arch more. The way your back was rounded on that single made me cringe. And yes...that is a serious amount of weight you are pulling!
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  9. do u think i am having a problem with my lower back because im not getting deep enough with my hips before i pull? because the way it feels is almost like my back is parallel to the floor and leverage at that angle is terrible, which i think is why i round it, and when i sit into it a bit more i lose all my strength almost instantly.

  10. What weight can you pull when dropping your rear down? The 315 warm ups looked easy. Can you work on the form with that weight and build the strength up from there?
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  11. Keep your hips down, and try to sit back with the weight more. Looks like the weight was over your toes; you should be pulling with your heels.

  12. im not sure how much i can pull with good form, but i guess ill check in about a week with some new videoes of me tryin to get it worked out. is there a video of really good form? i was looking on youtube last night and i noticed a lot of people were doing it how i was in my first video

  13. Your form is pretty bad. I would try and get the bar closer to your shins. You should not be bending so much at the knee in the beginning. You need to get your ass down more and your head up. Your soulders are also way over the bar, you want to be pulling with them behind the bar. Try and get an arch or at least get your back flatter. Work your hams and glutes hard, you pull with all lower back. Try and find someone who knows what they are doing and have them watch you. I looked like **** for years when i started. It is a hard exercise to teach yourself.

  14. OK, looking at it again, not atrocious. Just get the bar closer to you, and get your ass down, and get behind the bar. I could fix you in five minutes. So find someone else who can pull and ask them.

  15. Try taking a huge breath of air into your stomach and then pushing your abs out during the lift. This will help lock your back in better so that you can arch. When you start the lift you want to pull back and try to bring your hips through to the bar, it may sound weird but thats the best way to describe it. I think you could get into a better position if you didn't have to mess with the straps, because then you could arch before you even go down to grab the bar.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    im not sure how much i can pull with good form, but i guess ill check in about a week with some new videoes of me tryin to get it worked out. is there a video of really good form? i was looking on youtube last night and i noticed a lot of people were doing it how i was in my first video
    If you are looking for video, take a look at some Andy Bolton video. He gets in very good position and is the strongest deadlifter in the world. You'll notice his back isn't super-arched, but he does try to at least keep it flat and he doesn't get rounded over.
    Mark Rippetoe also did an excellent biomechanical analysis of the DL. Do some searching and you should be able to find it online.

  17. ok i think i got this figured out, now its just gonna be how hard it is to employ when im actually doing it. im gona put up a clip of my squats and bench later too

  18. put the bar so close to ur shins that its like scartching them up. then when you pull try to drag them up shins. round ur back and make sure ur elbows arent loose when ur starting out the lift and keep ur chest out...

    that sound about right guys?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by brownstown89 View Post
    put the bar so close to ur shins that its like scartching them up. then when you pull try to drag them up shins. round ur back and make sure ur elbows arent loose when ur starting out the lift and keep ur chest out...

    that sound about right guys?
    thats pretty good analysis, make sure to keep your chest up and hips down, try to get down like your at the bottom of your squat, drive threw your heels and snap your hips into the bar and yes make sure your dragging that bar on your shins the whole way up your quadriceps to lockout

  20. oh yeah as far as you fuking your neck up, its probly from trying to pull to much with your upper back

  21. that "setup" video is awesome. i think it will help me a lot. thanks!

  22. Quote Originally Posted by stullsy View Post
    oh yeah as far as you fuking your neck up, its probly from trying to pull to much with your upper back
    its usually actually from incorrect posture. the erectors (closest to the spine) should be under tension. this is achieved (look at pro powerlifters), by looking upward. when your head is looking forward, the erectors aren't protecting your neck.

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7LXee--zPQ"]YouTube - 801 lb Deadlift @ 198 BW[/ame]

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  23. and hes under 200 pounds in that video. how is it possible im so tiny and he is so big at the same weight. ugh. ill never be competitive

    i got up 225x5 today on bench :-/

  24. Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    and hes under 200 pounds in that video. how is it possible im so tiny and he is so big at the same weight. ugh. ill never be competitive

    i got up 225x5 today on bench :-/
    a lot of hard work and determination man, it may sound corny but thats what it is. also being able to train without too many injurys.

    the guy is also wearing a deadlift suit, a belt tighter than a virgin chick and using a sumo style instead of a conventional, but either way its still an incrediable feat
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