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  1.  09-19-2008  02:49 PM
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    Originally Posted by poacher View Post
    I had blood work i think on day 10 on cycle. Total was 97. Superdrol shut me down HARD. Sustain did get me rolling again. Do wish the total TT was higher. My basline is low 500's. Will have blood work done after this PCT of the Test Recovery Stack. Keep fingers crossed. I am definatly feeling good.
    Makes sense. We will look forward to seeing the results. When was your last cycle?

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    Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    Makes sense. We will look forward to seeing the results. When was your last cycle?

    -Pp
    Finished 9/7 currently second week of PCT and it is going splendidly. Thank you again it reminds me to take another dose of EndoAmp and Toco-8

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    Originally Posted by poacher View Post
    I had blood work i think on day 10 on cycle. Total was 97. Superdrol shut me down HARD. Sustain did get me rolling again. Do wish the total TT was higher. My basline is low 500's. Will have blood work done after this PCT of the Test Recovery Stack. Keep fingers crossed. I am definatly feeling good.
    If you keep running cycles, your test is going to get worse and worse. I would steer clear of hormones, with total test in the 350's off cycle unless you want to have low test the rest of your life and be on TRT.

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    Alright, I'm trying to wrap my mind around so many things,... That being said, would this test rec stack be adequate as pct instead of, say 6-oxo and post cycle support. I know it's a different company, but I'm preppin' for an epi run in Nov and there is so much info and people feel diff about so much. Like would a serm not be needed with this stack?

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    Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    If you keep running cycles, your test is going to get worse and worse. I would steer clear of hormones, with total test in the 350's off cycle unless you want to have low test the rest of your life and be on TRT.
    True... I would wait atleast 6 months before the next cycle poacher.

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    Originally Posted by bonscott View Post
    Alright, I'm trying to wrap my mind around so many things,... That being said, would this test rec stack be adequate as pct instead of, say 6-oxo and post cycle support. I know it's a different company, but I'm preppin' for an epi run in Nov and there is so much info and people feel diff about so much. Like would a serm not be needed with this stack?
    Ill repost the reply from your PM --


    Hey bro,

    I would not run 6-oxo for PCT it’s a steroidial anti-androgen that is only going to hinder your PCT.

    The Testosterone Recovery stack would have your PCT totally covered from the epi cycle. You wouldn’t need a SERM with it either.

    Post Cycle Support is a good product from the sounds of it. You could stack this with the Testosteorne Recovery Stack if you wanted.

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    Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    True... I would wait atleast 6 months before the next cycle poacher.

    -Pp
    Thanks guy. I agree !000%. I have blood work coming up and will have it done again in 6 months. I may run another summer of 6/2009. Do you think I would be safe running prime in 3 or 4 months.

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    Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    Ill repost the reply from your PM --


    Hey bro,

    I would not run 6-oxo for PCT it’s a steroidial anti-androgen that is only going to hinder your PCT.

    The Testosterone Recovery stack would have your PCT totally covered from the epi cycle. You wouldn’t need a SERM with it either.

    Post Cycle Support is a good product from the sounds of it. You could stack this with the Testosteorne Recovery Stack if you wanted.

    -Eric
    I don't think that is true about 6-OXO. ATD is a steroidial anti-e that is very similar to Exemestane, but I am almost positive that PA said 6-OXO is not suppressive.

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    Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    I don't think that is true about 6-OXO. ATD is a steroidial anti-e that is very similar to Exemestane, but I am almost positive that PA said 6-OXO is not suppressive.
    HOW about posting your cycle history with blood work. I am sure we could learn alot from you

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    Originally Posted by poacher View Post
    HOW about posting your cycle history with blood work. I am sure we could learn alot from you
    I am TRT so I dont "cycle" per se, but I have used 6-OXO many times as an anti-e even before TRT. 6-OXO was actually the only thing that I took pre-TRT that really increased libido. I am thinking about getting off TRT and trying a restart. I am starting to get everything that I will need for the restart. My rats have multiple SERMS and anti-e's. The main thing missing that I want to add in is Sustain and soon as I get some extra doe and my wife gives me the OK, I am going to add it along with Mass FX and Prime.

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    Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    I am TRT so I dont "cycle" per se, but I have used 6-OXO many times as an anti-e even before TRT. 6-OXO was actually the only thing that I took pre-TRT that really increased libido. I am thinking about getting off TRT and trying a restart. I am starting to get everything that I will need for the restart. My rats have multiple SERMS and anti-e's. The main thing missing that I want to add in is Sustain and soon as I get some extra doe and my wife gives me the OK, I am going to add it along with Mass FX and Prime.
    I dont mean to be a jerk and hope this is not to personal. I see a lot of guys saying TRT is great. I always figured it came with issues. Is it a crappy experience. Thanks, Poacher

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    Originally Posted by poacher View Post
    I dont mean to be a jerk and hope this is not to personal. I see a lot of guys saying TRT is great. I always figured it came with issues. Is it a crappy experience. Thanks, Poacher
    The big problem is finding a good dr. TRT COULD be a lot better (if HCG and A-Dex are added). Most will not find the root cause and give you a script for test and tell you to "have a nice life, come back in three months and we will test total test and nothing else."

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    Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    The big problem is finding a good dr. TRT COULD be a lot better (if HCG and A-Dex are added). Most will not find the root cause and give you a script for test and tell you to "have a nice life, come back in three months and we will test total test and nothing else."
    You just described my primary DR. and ENDO. Both are like TRT is no big deal. Happy to prescribe test when one feels like the need it if total test is a little low. Got to be a good money maker for them. Thanks Hyde good luck and I appreciate the advice

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    Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    I don't think that is true about 6-OXO. ATD is a steroidial anti-e that is very similar to Exemestane, but I am almost positive that PA said 6-OXO is not suppressive.
    It either a suppressive androgen, or it’s a non-suppressive anti-androgen… I wouldn’t want either in my PCT.

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    The new TRS -



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    So is this an all-in-one PCT made easy?

    I have 2 weeks of a Mdrol cycle left and I need to make some decisions on PCT now!

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    Originally Posted by RyanZ06 View Post
    So is this an all-in-one PCT made easy?

    I have 2 weeks of a Mdrol cycle left and I need to make some decisions on PCT now!
    Yep, thats exactly what its designed for. [clomid/nolva alternative]

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    Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    Yep, thats exactly what its designed for. [clomid/nolva alternative]

    -Eric

    I PM'd you. ose:

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    Why have the toco8 and endoamp bottles changed? ARe they in capsule form now?

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    Originally Posted by Urban Monk View Post
    Why have the toco8 and endoamp bottles changed? ARe they in capsule form now?
    No, still powder. They are just in a bigger bottle now so you can keep the scoop inside.

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