The Complete Testosterone Recovery Stack

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by poacher View Post
    I had blood work i think on day 10 on cycle. Total was 97. Superdrol shut me down HARD. Sustain did get me rolling again. Do wish the total TT was higher. My basline is low 500's. Will have blood work done after this PCT of the Test Recovery Stack. Keep fingers crossed. I am definatly feeling good.
    Makes sense. We will look forward to seeing the results. When was your last cycle?

    -Pp


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    Makes sense. We will look forward to seeing the results. When was your last cycle?

    -Pp
    Finished 9/7 currently second week of PCT and it is going splendidly. Thank you again it reminds me to take another dose of EndoAmp and Toco-8
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by poacher View Post
    I had blood work i think on day 10 on cycle. Total was 97. Superdrol shut me down HARD. Sustain did get me rolling again. Do wish the total TT was higher. My basline is low 500's. Will have blood work done after this PCT of the Test Recovery Stack. Keep fingers crossed. I am definatly feeling good.
    If you keep running cycles, your test is going to get worse and worse. I would steer clear of hormones, with total test in the 350's off cycle unless you want to have low test the rest of your life and be on TRT.

  4. Alright, I'm trying to wrap my mind around so many things,... That being said, would this test rec stack be adequate as pct instead of, say 6-oxo and post cycle support. I know it's a different company, but I'm preppin' for an epi run in Nov and there is so much info and people feel diff about so much. Like would a serm not be needed with this stack?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    If you keep running cycles, your test is going to get worse and worse. I would steer clear of hormones, with total test in the 350's off cycle unless you want to have low test the rest of your life and be on TRT.
    True... I would wait atleast 6 months before the next cycle poacher.

    -Pp
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bonscott View Post
    Alright, I'm trying to wrap my mind around so many things,... That being said, would this test rec stack be adequate as pct instead of, say 6-oxo and post cycle support. I know it's a different company, but I'm preppin' for an epi run in Nov and there is so much info and people feel diff about so much. Like would a serm not be needed with this stack?
    Ill repost the reply from your PM --


    Hey bro,

    I would not run 6-oxo for PCT it’s a steroidial anti-androgen that is only going to hinder your PCT.

    The Testosterone Recovery stack would have your PCT totally covered from the epi cycle. You wouldn’t need a SERM with it either.

    Post Cycle Support is a good product from the sounds of it. You could stack this with the Testosteorne Recovery Stack if you wanted.

    -Eric

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    True... I would wait atleast 6 months before the next cycle poacher.

    -Pp
    Thanks guy. I agree !000%. I have blood work coming up and will have it done again in 6 months. I may run another summer of 6/2009. Do you think I would be safe running prime in 3 or 4 months.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    Ill repost the reply from your PM --


    Hey bro,

    I would not run 6-oxo for PCT it’s a steroidial anti-androgen that is only going to hinder your PCT.

    The Testosterone Recovery stack would have your PCT totally covered from the epi cycle. You wouldn’t need a SERM with it either.

    Post Cycle Support is a good product from the sounds of it. You could stack this with the Testosteorne Recovery Stack if you wanted.

    -Eric
    I don't think that is true about 6-OXO. ATD is a steroidial anti-e that is very similar to Exemestane, but I am almost positive that PA said 6-OXO is not suppressive.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    I don't think that is true about 6-OXO. ATD is a steroidial anti-e that is very similar to Exemestane, but I am almost positive that PA said 6-OXO is not suppressive.
    HOW about posting your cycle history with blood work. I am sure we could learn alot from you

  10. Quote Originally Posted by poacher View Post
    HOW about posting your cycle history with blood work. I am sure we could learn alot from you
    I am TRT so I dont "cycle" per se, but I have used 6-OXO many times as an anti-e even before TRT. 6-OXO was actually the only thing that I took pre-TRT that really increased libido. I am thinking about getting off TRT and trying a restart. I am starting to get everything that I will need for the restart. My rats have multiple SERMS and anti-e's. The main thing missing that I want to add in is Sustain and soon as I get some extra doe and my wife gives me the OK, I am going to add it along with Mass FX and Prime.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    I am TRT so I dont "cycle" per se, but I have used 6-OXO many times as an anti-e even before TRT. 6-OXO was actually the only thing that I took pre-TRT that really increased libido. I am thinking about getting off TRT and trying a restart. I am starting to get everything that I will need for the restart. My rats have multiple SERMS and anti-e's. The main thing missing that I want to add in is Sustain and soon as I get some extra doe and my wife gives me the OK, I am going to add it along with Mass FX and Prime.
    I dont mean to be a jerk and hope this is not to personal. I see a lot of guys saying TRT is great. I always figured it came with issues. Is it a crappy experience. Thanks, Poacher

  12. Quote Originally Posted by poacher View Post
    I dont mean to be a jerk and hope this is not to personal. I see a lot of guys saying TRT is great. I always figured it came with issues. Is it a crappy experience. Thanks, Poacher
    The big problem is finding a good dr. TRT COULD be a lot better (if HCG and A-Dex are added). Most will not find the root cause and give you a script for test and tell you to "have a nice life, come back in three months and we will test total test and nothing else."

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    The big problem is finding a good dr. TRT COULD be a lot better (if HCG and A-Dex are added). Most will not find the root cause and give you a script for test and tell you to "have a nice life, come back in three months and we will test total test and nothing else."
    You just described my primary DR. and ENDO. Both are like TRT is no big deal. Happy to prescribe test when one feels like the need it if total test is a little low. Got to be a good money maker for them. Thanks Hyde good luck and I appreciate the advice

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    I don't think that is true about 6-OXO. ATD is a steroidial anti-e that is very similar to Exemestane, but I am almost positive that PA said 6-OXO is not suppressive.
    It either a suppressive androgen, or it’s a non-suppressive anti-androgen… I wouldn’t want either in my PCT.

    -Pp

  15. The new TRS -



    -Eric

  16. So is this an all-in-one PCT made easy?

    I have 2 weeks of a Mdrol cycle left and I need to make some decisions on PCT now!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by RyanZ06 View Post
    So is this an all-in-one PCT made easy?

    I have 2 weeks of a Mdrol cycle left and I need to make some decisions on PCT now!
    Yep, thats exactly what its designed for. [clomid/nolva alternative]

    -Eric

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    Yep, thats exactly what its designed for. [clomid/nolva alternative]

    -Eric

    I PM'd you. ose:

  19. Why have the toco8 and endoamp bottles changed? ARe they in capsule form now?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Urban Monk View Post
    Why have the toco8 and endoamp bottles changed? ARe they in capsule form now?
    No, still powder. They are just in a bigger bottle now so you can keep the scoop inside.

    -Eric

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    No, still powder. They are just in a bigger bottle now so you can keep the scoop inside.

    -Eric
    Since I'm using Endoamp and Toco-8 once a day is it in my system for 24hrs ?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    Since I'm using Endoamp and Toco-8 once a day is it in my system for 24hrs ?
    It’s probably not circulating the blood stream for 24hrs but it’s being stored in the tissues it needs to be nourishing… not so much a “blood level” action if that makes sense…

    Realistically you could stop taking Toco-8 for a couple weeks and not have any of the benefits regress.

    -Eric

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    It’s probably not circulating the blood stream for 24hrs but it’s being stored in the tissues it needs to be nourishing… not so much a “blood level” action if that makes sense…

    Realistically you could stop taking Toco-8 for a couple weeks and not have any of the benefits regress.

    -Eric
    I'm using SUSTAIN 4.0 with TOCO-8 and ENDOAMP just finishing first wk of pct when should I add test booster to this stack ?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    I'm using SUSTAIN 4.0 with TOCO-8 and ENDOAMP just finishing first wk of pct when should I add test booster to this stack ?
    You really dont need to add a test booster. The stack your using (Testosterone Recovery Stack) is already designed to boost test as the name indicates. Your PCT should be solid.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    You really dont need to add a test booster. The stack your using (Testosterone Recovery Stack) is already designed to boost test as the name indicates. Your PCT should be solid.
    Yes sir.

    -Eric

  26. Well I ordered my recovery stack, and had it over nighted... but the damn snow where ever it is leaving from kept it from showing up. Hopefully it comes tomorrow because i have to start my PCT thursday

  27. Quote Originally Posted by RyanZ06 View Post
    Well I ordered my recovery stack, and had it over nighted... but the damn snow where ever it is leaving from kept it from showing up. Hopefully it comes tomorrow because i have to start my PCT thursday
    Yes! We are getting nailed from backed up arrivals too! It sucks!

    -Eric

  28. Packages this time of year are normally backed up like crazy. Sucks but its the nature of the beast.
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  29. How soon after starting this stack are most people seeing increased/return to normal libido? I've taken it for 3 days thus far without any positive or negative results..

  30. Quote Originally Posted by RyanZ06 View Post
    How soon after starting this stack are most people seeing increased/return to normal libido? I've taken it for 3 days thus far without any positive or negative results..
    It really depends on what you took since some compounds are more suppressive than others, and if you ran hCG while on. You SERM choice also affects things if you're running one. Some guys are reporting deeper sleep and good libido with 5 days of starting it, while obviously some respond slower.
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