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Old 05-27-2006, 09:28 PM   #1
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hi guy im vlad878 i want to know if u or anyone u know have used prohormones or steroids with no pct please post info

and for the record ive used dbol before before without pct

im thinking of useing pheraplex this week what can happen
 
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hi guy im vlad878 i want to know if u or anyone u know have used prohormones or steroids with no post cycle therapy please post info

and for the record ive used dbol before before without post cycle therapy

im thinking of useing pheraplex this week what can happen
Well, I am guessing you are going to get flamed. Seeing as that is out of the way, running a cycle of anabolic steroids w/o any PCT is a ridiculous idea IMO. I am not going to preach about prostate, lipid, cholesterol, and heart values to you, mostly because I can tell by your attitude you probably don't care. Yet hopefully, if you are a functioning male, you care about sexual function. PCT, my ill-informed, un-wise friend is INTEGRAL in restoring a proper balance of your HPTA. It's not even about the temporary, immediate problems doing something like this can raise, and it 100% has the ability to raise those issues immediately. It's also about the lasting, irreprable damage doing something so foolish could infer. But, you seem to know what you are doing, already having one PCT-less cycle under your belt. So all that being said, give 'er, I don't really care.
 



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Old 05-27-2006, 09:43 PM   #4
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Plenty of people experimented for decades without PCT...So years of testing have led to the conclusion that PCT is the proper thing to do.

I can drive a car 100 MPH with no seatbelt and bald tires but why take the chance? Use your safety devices and if something happens you're less likely to end up permenantly injured.


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Plenty of people experimented for decades without post cycle therapy...So years of testing have led to the conclusion that PCT is the proper thing to do.

I can drive a car 100 MPH with no seatbelt and bald tires but why take the chance? Use your safety devices and if something happens you're less likely to end up permenantly injured.


Damn, that was one hell of an analogy...I better get Reps!


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hi guy im vlad878 i want to know if u or anyone u know have used prohormones or steroids with no post cycle therapy please post info

and for the record ive used dbol before before without post cycle therapy

im thinking of useing pheraplex this week what can happen
I did during my first cycle...lost all my gains and took about 2x as long for my boys to return.

That was because i was dumb and didn't know better. Why someone would know about PCT and choose not to do it, is beyond me.
 



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i will be posting my log on june 5th and tell you guys whats going down
 
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Plenty of people experimented for decades without post cycle therapy...So years of testing have led to the conclusion that PCT is the proper thing to do.

I can drive a car 100 MPH with no seatbelt and bald tires but why take the chance? Use your safety devices and if something happens you're less likely to end up permenantly injured.


Damn, that was one hell of an analogy...I better get Reps!
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hi guy im vlad878 i want to know if u or anyone u know have used prohormones or steroids with no post cycle therapy please post info

and for the record ive used dbol before before without post cycle therapy

im thinking of useing pheraplex this week what can happen
stupid idea
 
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It's cool you're doing a log but considering this is supposed to be an experiment. What are you trying to prove and to whom? Since there's no control base etc, you're basically just saying,[the] here's my cycle log [/end].
 



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It's cool you're doing a log but considering this is supposed to be an experiment. What are you trying to prove and to whom? Since there's no control base etc, you're basically just saying,[the] here's my cycle log [/end].
Exactly, and uhh since you are doing an "experiment", will you be posting up bloodwork? I would LOVE to see that.
 



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Someone sticky this ***** as proof I added to a discussion!


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At first, I was going to post up and say I really encourage you not to do a log, fearing an uninformed individual would see your log and use it to further justify the same ridiculous decision you are making. However, after thinking about it further, I think you should log it, and it should be stickied, so any individual who stumbles upon your thread can see how much you are being/will be ridiculed..You'll be like the village example of exactly what not to do...
 



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I have no damn good clue why that some would want to continue with this experiment. Now if you were doing a double blind that you could compare, that might be worthy of experimentation but this just strikes me as a futile effort...
 
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I have no damn good clue why that some would want to continue with this experiment. Now if you were doing a double blind that you could compare, that might be worthy of experimentation but this just strikes me as a futile effort...
Given the known dangers, this "experiment" would never get approved by a human subjects review committee.
 
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