Recovery from extended cycles without use of HCG

[paul56778]

Just for future reasons for when natty test production becomes impaired with age and TRT is required, is it possible to recover from longer duration test cycles e.g. upto 20 weeks or more without the use of HCG with just clomid for an extended time period, even if test levels drop when stopping use of clomid should it be sufficient to allow for optimal test production within normal ranges?

 

[pheeroni]

The only way to know whether your natural testoterone production is recovered is from blood works.

Everybody bodies is different, the longer and more gear you use will make recovery time longer and so higher chance for losing your gains from the cycle so you better take cautious over this one and use anything u could

 

[paul56778]

The only way to know whether your natural testoterone production is recovered is from blood works.

Everybody bodies is different, the longer and more gear you use will make recovery time longer and so higher chance for losing your gains from the cycle so you better take cautious over this one and use anything u could

*use anything you could?

 

[pyrobatt]

Just for future reasons for when natty test production becomes impaired with age and TRT is required, is it possible to recover from longer duration test cycles e.g. upto 20 weeks or more without the use of HCG with just clomid for an extended time period, even if test levels drop when stopping use of clomid should it be sufficient to allow for optimal test production within normal ranges?

Maybe is the right answer and probably the answer you didn't want. So....if you for example used 20+ weeks of something and came off, went through the pct and still not recovered you CAN do another 4 week run of SERMS and test in a month or 2. Most likely you'll recover. Those who dont end up on trt.

 

[paul56778]

Maybe is the right answer and probably the answer you didn't want. So....if you for example used 20+ weeks of something and came off, went through the pct and still not recovered you CAN do another 4 week run of SERMS and test in a month or 2. Most likely you'll recover. Those who dont end up on trt.

Thanks for reply, blood work is always best and not a problem to check for hormone levels.

 

[CatSnake]

Just for future reasons for when natty test production becomes impaired with age and TRT is required, is it possible to recover from longer duration test cycles e.g. upto 20 weeks or more without the use of HCG with just clomid for an extended time period, even if test levels drop when stopping use of clomid should it be sufficient to allow for optimal test production within normal ranges?

hard to say yes or no, but I would lean towards no.

cycles over 16 weeks are typically where guys see recovery issues in general, and the older you get/farther from natural set point, the harder it is as well.

HCG is pretty easy to use, and as little as 250 IU's/wk will prolly maintain testicular function on cycle, so I don't really see a reason not to use it, unless E2 is too hard to manage.....

 

[pheeroni]

*use anything you could?

*anything you could for a proper PCT

 

[paul56778]

*anything you could for a proper PCT

Normally Clomid or Nolva as Serms seem to be effective, sometimes in combo with a natty test booster, but i feel they work more for mood and libido than test boosting and are not as effective as serms.

 

[Godstrength]

Yes it is possible to recover using nothing at all. Serms help speed up the process and probably bring you back up to a level that is higher than what it would normally be. Usually followed by a decline upon cessation. But yes levels could definitely bounce back to what is considered "normal" according to the medical scale.

I do believe the longer the use (length of cycle and number of cycles) in conjunction with aging usually causes a gradual decline from starting baseline. In other words research shows that using aas causes a decrease in overall test.

Bloodwork is the only way to know for sure. Every individual will respond differently. This game is a crapshoot and at some point trt will become the most appealing option and solution if using aas over time.