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    The Arrogance of Obama's Leftist Supporters


    The Arrogance of Obama's Leftist Supporters
    David Limbaugh
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    It's interesting that the main people pushing Obama in the name of unity and civility are the same ones brutally trashing Hillary (and Bill) Clinton. They seem to have no sense of their own hypocrisy in defending the Clintons yesterday for far greater misconduct than that for which they are mercilessly excoriating them today in their editorials and so-called news reporting.

    The hypocrisy and absence of self-reflection of this group -- mostly the mainstream media and the leftist cabal of the Democratic Party -- is born of its profound arrogance. This arrogance is also evident in the striking incoherence of their assumption that Obama can be a unifying force while working to change America in ways that are repugnant to a large plurality, if not a majority, of Americans.

    You have to recognize that something about this group is just not natural when its members, such as MSNBC's Chris Matthews, can say without embarrassment that Obama sends shivers up his leg or when swooning crowds of supporters faint in his presence.

    The group's obliviousness is demonstrated in its stunning state of denial over Obama's virtual free fall since the revelations about his associations with such unsavory characters as Tony Rezko and William Ayers and his longtime membership in a Christian church whose pastors and theology seem more race-oriented than Christ-centered.

    You would think these fawning zealots would take notice of the backlash against Obama since he issued his outrageously divisive critique of small-town America as embittered gun- and Bible-clingers. But their Obama-intoxication blinded them to seeing anything other than that Obama still had an insuperable lead in the delegate count.

    Their stubborn attachment to him is understandable, though, if you consider their psychological state prior to the messiah's entrance onto the political stage and that many conditions existed at the time that would create a perfect political storm for him.

    The group had been poisoned by its consuming hatred for George Bush over Bush-Gore 2000 and the Iraq war. Hillary's unpardonable act of voting for the Iraq war resolution caused her excommunication from the group and ensured that she would not be the one who could capitalize on Bush Derangement syndrome.

    Also, the economy was finally fading as if to conform to seven years of dishonest Democratic naysaying, and with the hyperinflation of oil and gas prices, much of the public was ripe for the leftist class-warfare message that Obama would adopt when John Edwards left the race. The public was poised for this promise of hope and change, as if Democrats had finally succeeded in convincing them they were destitute, miserable and needed otherworldly deliverance from a this-worldly deliverer.

    All that remained was for Obama to reveal himself as a charismatic figure with soaring oratory promising a sea change from the dark years of Bush-Cheney. Conditions were perfect for Obama's skill set. He hit the perfect tones at the perfect time and with near-perfect delivery. And as an added bonus, he put the witch in her place in the debates.

    The Obama era would vindicate the complaints of the leftist malcontents. He would end this "unnecessary war, which has not made us safer," would "provide" every American health care, would punish the evil rich, and would turn back the tide on global warming. And he would unify the American people in the process, in glorious validation of the left's warped assertion that Bush never tried to unite Americans.

    It's astonishing that these people touting Obama as a uniter are so blind to their own bilious hatred and divisiveness. They called Bush a Nazi, derided Condoleezza Rice as "Brown Sugar" and "Aunt Jemima," and labeled John Ashcroft a "witch burner."

    They never allowed the facts to interfere with their predispositions, such as denouncing Bush as a divider even while Sen. Kennedy was stabbing him in the back for fulfilling his promise to work with him on the education bill.

    Today their calls for unity are no less insincere, unless by unity they mean the gleeful, unanimous acceptance of their radical leftist agenda by a center-right nation marching in lock step like obedient Stepford wives.

    Unless we accede to their extremist vision for America -- one that could change America's governing institutions to the point of making them unrecognizable to our nation's Founders -- we will be the evil obstructers.

    It's nothing new for advocates of socialism, isolationism, appeasement, multiculturalism, defeatism and American non-exceptionalism to flex their muscles and gain power for a time. But expecting to effect such far-reaching and potentially devastating changes to this nation in the name of unity is breathtakingly arrogant.
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    It's astonishing that these people touting Obama as a uniter are so blind to their own bilious hatred and divisiveness. They called Bush a Nazi, derided Condoleezza Rice as "Brown Sugar" and "Aunt Jemima," and labeled John Ashcroft a "witch burner."
    That has been a topic amongst my group. The ways they can switch gears in a heartbeat. Bush is a Nazi, but how dare you mention Obama's ties to the Hate America crowd.
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    Don't you know all change is good?
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    the quote in post 2 is a bit of a generalization, no?
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    its funny how they could think a candidate is a good one, when he spent half of his time in his first term as the elected senator for illinois campaigning for president. how would you feel if he spent half his time as president merely working to guarantee his post presidency job? it likely will happen too
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    ...because he gives a hell of a speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soup Nazi View Post
    ...because he gives a hell of a speech.
    Ya gotta give it to him though - one hell of an orator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bLacKjAck. View Post
    Ya gotta give it to him though - one hell of an orator.
    you think so? i find it hard to pay attention to what he is saying
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    I think most supporters in the political front are pretty arrogannt and blinded to their candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    I think most supporters in the political front are pretty arrogannt and blinded to their candidate.
    absolutely, regardless of who the candidate is
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    I find it worth noting to people I know who are BO supporters that they should look at the hundreds of thousands of voters that went out not just to vote for HC but against BO, even after the race was clearly over. Once again - the DNC has a candidate they don't fully support - but are stuck with.

    The guy is an empty suit with no worthwhile accomplishments to speak of. HC simply couldn't outrun the skeletons in her own closet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nole1 View Post
    I find it worth noting to people I know who are BO supporters that they should look at the hundreds of thousands of voters that went out not just to vote for HC but against BO, even after the race was clearly over. Once again - the DNC has a candidate they don't fully support - but are stuck with.

    The guy is an empty suit with no worthwhile accomplishments to speak of. HC simply couldn't outrun the skeletons in her own closet.
    the same holds true for mccain. look at after he clinched and just prior to clinching how many went out for Huckabee. Neither party is happy with what they got I dont believe
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    The guy dant speak for a lick of anything. He is horrible unless he is reading something.. Just horrible. Honestly he makes GW seem smart.. it is the reason why he has said no to almost all town hall style meetings with idiot boy McCain.. Some direct quotes from Jimmy Carter II during some Q and A time after a written and read script:

    OBAMA: What they'll say is, "Well it costs too much money," but you know what? It would cost, about... It -- it -- it would cost about the same as what we would spend... It... Over the course of 10 years it would cost what it would costs us... (nervous laugh) All right. Okay. We're going to... It... It would cost us about the same as it would cost for about -- hold on one second. I can't hear myself. But I'm glad you're fired up, though. I'm glad.

    OBAMA: Everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma, they end up taking up a hospital bed, it costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early and they got some treatment, and a, a breathalyzer, or inhalator, not a breathalyzer.

    At the end of these clips nobody was saying a word. There was no cheering; there was no fainting. There was just disbelief.
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    Yeah, I have not seen this great speaker everyone is talking about. What I see is someone who is ok at public speaking that has the press editing like crazy to make him sound great.

    The Press is really gone to far with this guy, goes to show you that the elite, wether from the far right or far left, are really in control of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaks4ver View Post
    The guy dant speak for a lick of anything. He is horrible unless he is reading something.. Just horrible. Honestly he makes GW seem smart.. it is the reason why he has said no to almost all town hall style meetings with idiot boy McCain.. Some direct quotes from Jimmy Carter II during some Q and A time after a written and read script:

    OBAMA: What they'll say is, "Well it costs too much money," but you know what? It would cost, about... It -- it -- it would cost about the same as what we would spend... It... Over the course of 10 years it would cost what it would costs us... (nervous laugh) All right. Okay. We're going to... It... It would cost us about the same as it would cost for about -- hold on one second. I can't hear myself. But I'm glad you're fired up, though. I'm glad.

    OBAMA: Everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma, they end up taking up a hospital bed, it costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early and they got some treatment, and a, a breathalyzer, or inhalator, not a breathalyzer.

    At the end of these clips nobody was saying a word. There was no cheering; there was no fainting. There was just disbelief.
    Wait...could it be? A woman who isn't a diehard bleeding liberal? Refreshing, honestly refreshing.
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    how can u say OB isnt a good public speaker? after 8 years of bush, a 5th grader would seem like an amazing public speaker.

    And i really hate it to break it to you people, but its not about left, or right, rep or dem. that's just a bunch of bs to seperate people. theres only 2 groups, rich and not rich.
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    and obama belongs to the same group as bush in that respect
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    How can I say that?? I have seen dozens of people who public speak for aliving and compared to the really good ones, no he is not that great. He is nothing but a Persuasive Promiser.

    and the rich against poor stuff is BS, people are poor becuase they spend their entire life not making the right decisions to up lift there life.

    if you like, spend sometimes on looking into what poor people spend money on and how much of it, you will see a pattern that keeps them poor, life can be good or bad, it really your choice.
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    Obama is no better than any black minister.. i know.. i actually belong to a black church.. and we have so many of them come in and out as a guest and they are all the same. Its nothing more then a trick of sorts.. people do not respond to just one tone... the black church often uses yelling, or sing song like words to keep their members happy and in the moment. I happen to like it very very much and it is why i stay. I feel it connects me more to my God when I feel energy from my brother's and sisters. But i do know the difference between one who is a great reader/actor and one who actually knows what the hell he is talking about.

    Bush is actually the reverse. He is very good when he speaks from his heart.. you wont find many presidents that are like that... bill was not.. even JFK wasn't good at it. FDR was perfect. I would rather hear someone's heart than the words and some flim flam.


    As for me.. I am a registered conservative. I am sorta without a presidential candidate this go around and unless someone steps up and runs third party.. i may choose to not vote for president and make sure I vote and rally hard for conservative local government officals and so forth.

    Obama is in short.. horrible for the united states.. and do not buy the " i am just a product of a poor mixed family" That family is was and is very very well off.. and is in the 2% of top earning familes. He even now makes more than his family has. Both of them have no connection to the "black" or "hard working poor" americans than any other president in the past.

    McCain is in short.. A horrible candidate over all and is the nail that drove conservatives out of the republican party
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    I AM WITH USF.

    CHANGE... CHANGE... CHANGE... CHANGe... CHANge... CHAnge... CHange... Change.... change!!!!

    What do we want? CHARGE.... I MEAN CHANGE.

    And that about wraps up a Obama speech.

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    AND he keep rippingoff other democrats speeches.. he just changes the names and places.. but keeps the meat.. this is some of obama's stuff mixed with cuomo's 1984 speech [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYa8k09V7lI"]YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.[/nomedia]:

    OBAMA: John McCain has spent a lot of time talking about trips to Iraq in the last few weeks, but maybe if he spent some time taking trips to the cities and towns that have been hardest hit by this economy (cheers) -- cities in Michigan and Ohio and right here in Minnesota -- he'd understand the kind of change that people are looking fo'.

    CUOMO: Maybe, maybe, Mr. President, had you visited some more places, maybe if you went to Appalachia where some people still live in sheds.

    OBAMA: Maybe if you went to Iowa and let the student who works the night shift after a full day of class and still can't pay the medical bills for a sister who's ill, he'd understand she can't afford four more years of a health care plan that only takes care of the healthy and the wealthy.

    CUOMO: Maybe if you went to Lackawanna where thousands of unemployed steelworkers wonder why we subsidize foreign steel.

    OBAMA: Maybe -- maybe if John McCain went to Pennsylvania and he met the man who lost his job but can't even afford the gas to drive around and look for a new one, he'd understand we can't afford four more years of our addiction to oil from dictators.


    CUOMO: Maybe, Mr. President, if you stopped in at a shelter in Chicago and spoke to the homeless there...

    OBAMA: And maybe if John McCain spent some time in the schools of South Carolina or St. Paul, Minnesota -- or where he spoke tonight in New Orleans, Louisiana -- he'd understand that we can't afford to leave the money behind for No Child Left Behind.

    CUOMO: Maybe, Mr. President, if you ask a woman who had been denied the help she needed to feed her children because you've said you needed the money for a tax break for a millionaire or for a missile we couldn't afford to use. (cheers) Maybe, Mr. President, but I'm afraid not.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk View Post
    I think most supporters in the political front are pretty arrogannt and blinded to their candidate.
    forget the rest and vote the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaks4ver View Post

    OBAMA: And maybe if John McCain spent some time in the schools of South Carolina or St. Paul, Minnesota -- or where he spoke tonight in New Orleans, Louisiana -- he'd understand that we can't afford to leave the money behind for No Child Left Behind.

    This dimwit thinks he's an expert on education LOL. I left my teaching job because of NCLB (No Child Left Behind). This program leaves failing schools behind. I hope more people realize this program actually needs to be scratched. Freaking lefties think you have to spend a gazillion dollars to make any program work. However, Bush initiated this program so it's not all the fault of the lefties.
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    bush is a lefty.. truuuust me. it makes me laugh that lefties hate bush.. he has done more for the liberal then for my conservative cool people!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaks4ver View Post
    bush is a lefty.. truuuust me. it makes me laugh that lefties hate bush.. he has done more for the liberal then for my conservative cool people!
    Appointments to the Supreme Court, ban on partial birth abortion, tax cuts, no terrorists attacks on US soil since 9/11, veto on embryonic stem cell research, gave us at least 8 more years of avoiding the fiasco of socialized medicine, demonstrated that he is less interested in momentary personal popularity than his oath to protect the people of the US, reversed Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions, Supports the Defense of Marriage Act, Supports permanent elimination of the death tax, is seeking legislation to amend the Constitution to give the president line-item veto authority, killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules would have shut down every home business in America, killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty, prohibited putting U.S. troops under U.N. command ...

    to name a few. Guess your right, sounds like a Leftie ...
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    He did some good things when he still "needed" the conservative support... but thats pretty much that.. he is the gateway that opened and started the great push to remove conservatives from the Republican Party. McCain is the final sweeper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpmartyr View Post
    demonstrated that he is less interested in momentary personal popularity than his oath to protect the people of the US
    this one alone makes me think that 50 years from now he will be looked back on as a great president, and is a piece of why I still am supportive of him. He's not letting the homos running the media (who use their power to twist public opinion) make his choices for him by showing him polls. He is doing what he believes is right, and is sticking to it "irregardless"
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    Perhaps some actual examples? Generalizations and talking points are the standard MO of the left. To say McCain is not a conservative based on what you hear from many right wing talk hosts while ignoring his actual voting records and ratings from varying organizations IMO is not the conservative way. He does lean more to the center, but doesn't that benefit the nation as a whole vs smaller subsets like liberal or conservative? I am a conservative but realize there is no "perfect" candidate and even Reagan, whom is touted often as the ideal, had some pretty liberal policies. We are not looking for perfection, we vote for the person who aligns "closest" to our own values. There will never be a candidate that agrees with everyone and staying home at election time because nobody meets your ideal qualifications is IMO juvenile and ignorant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    this one alone makes me think that 50 years from now he will be looked back on as a great president, and is a piece of why I still am supportive of him. He's not letting the homos running the media (who use their power to twist public opinion) make his choices for him by showing him polls. He is doing what he believes is right, and is sticking to it "irregardless"
    and drowning the country further.
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    that is far better than being at the sway of the media, and drowning the country far worse without even having the conviction that what you are doing is right
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    Quote Originally Posted by bLacKjAck. View Post
    Ya gotta give it to him though - one hell of an orator.
    So was Hitler
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    Bush was NOT a conservative economically speaking. Every social program (other than universal health) that most so called "republicans" complain about are a drop in the hat compared to the war spending he's created and bureaucracy we have to "protect us" that he added. Big military is actually a relatively new stance that the republican party has supported and actually something that historically would have been associated with the democrats. As a result many conservatives are still harping on wanting to get a true conservative into office as Bush was anything but (some will argue for his court appointments as being truly conservative). Many feel that McCain is a true conservative and thus they feel he's the guy to fix what Bush screwed up. I strongly disagree as I don't feel he's anymore conservative than most democrats other than a few key issues (guns being the best) where he takes the party line fairly well. Considering when you listen to Obama and you see he's not very strong about leaving Iraq (he was against it from the start) and he is hinting at going into Iran the war issue seems to be a pretty silly reason to vote against McCain even if his 100+ year stance is just insane.

    Social programs are separating the classes in the US. Health care got worse when the government started partially funding it. I personally feel the recession was created during the Clinton administration as the economy simple grew too fast and much of the growth was speculative. The war did not help nor did lower taxes while increasing spending. I consider myself about as fiscally conservative as anyone, but knowing that we aren't getting a small government guy elected we need to start hearing people talk about raising taxes AND lowering spending. That's the only conservative and logical thing here.

    I personally would have to be held at gun point to vote for either of these two idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkprice View Post
    and the rich against poor stuff is BS, people are poor becuase they spend their entire life not making the right decisions to up lift there life.

    if you like, spend sometimes on looking into what poor people spend money on and how much of it, you will see a pattern that keeps them poor, life can be good or bad, it really your choice.
    I would disagree to a point. I spend a good amount of my time dealing with very low wage laborers. Yes, they make bad decisions, and I certainly notice a patter of behavior in their lives that keeps them living in crap. However, there also policies at play, namely inflationary policies, that over time make people tend toward consumption more than savings, which is the basic error most people make. If your money is devaluing it is in fact a better decision to turn it into real wealth, an asset of some kind, than to hold on to it until it is worth a lot less in terms of buying power than it used to be. Under inflationary conditions it is better to be a debtor than a creditor as well, which means resources end up funneling into consumption that would otherwise have been counted under real savings.

    In general, the government favors policies that trend toward over-spending, debt, and consumption for its own sake rather then savings, thrift, and productive spending. Those policies affect everyone, including the poor who would otherwise not be so relatively bad off.
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    I think Obama is a crowd pleaser. His biggest problem is he doesn't understand the gravity the policies he is advocating. He just tells the people what they want to hear. He doesnt realize the reason we still have troops in Iraq is to keep Radical Dictators like Adhemdijad at bay. Also Universal Healthcare He doesnt realize that most patients in Europe on Universal heathcare get put off and eventually die; It doesnt help people. Also it wont cover all procedures you will still have to carry a private insurience to be fully protected. They act like doctors turn poor people away right and left. This is a load of horse crap everyone gets treated. Mostly its patients griping about the fact that the doctor cant wave his magical scapel over them and it cure morbid obesity, mixed with type 2 diabetes, hypertension, and 30 years of 2 pack a day smoking under their belt. Bottom line is people dont take care of themselves like they use too and blaming the doctors for their stupidity. I have a father who is a surgeon and he has millions in free medical care on his books. Not to metion universal healthcare would ruin doctors they would all become salaried and you can forget about starting a practice in non-elective surgery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bum Mahoney View Post
    Bush is a Nazi, but how dare you mention Obama's ties to the Hate America crowd.
    How dare you call the president a nazi 1. he has not sweet talked the citizens of america into electing him a dictator. 2. He hasn't orrcastrated a mass genocide of any kind. 3. I hasn't made any anti-semetic or racist slurrs; which Obama's priest and wife have be guilty of. 4. He has no mustache. and last 5. He hasn't made a special salloute for himself, he doesn't have blond or black hair, and He doesn't drive a German vehicle.
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    FLASH!!! Obama voted YES to allow the wire tap bill that Bush has wanted for oh so long. Obama has yet again broke another promis to his Obomadons. Clinton did not vote for it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeaks4ver View Post
    FLASH!!! Obama voted YES to allow the wire tap bill that Bush has wanted for oh so long. Obama has yet again broke another promis to his Obomadons. Clinton did not vote for it...
    That's because Clinton got the low down on everybody he wanted it on in the after sex tell all sessions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    this one alone makes me think that 50 years from now he will be looked back on as a great president, and is a piece of why I still am supportive of him. He's not letting the homos running the media (who use their power to twist public opinion) make his choices for him by showing him polls. He is doing what he believes is right, and is sticking to it "irregardless"
    you're a fu.cking moron, the media is run by Conservative Corporate American which runs our country. get out.
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    [QUOTE=The Brute;1427518]How dare you call the president a nazi 1. he has not sweet talked the citizens of america into electing him a dictator. 2. He hasn't orrcastrated a mass genocide of any kind. 3. I hasn't made any anti-semetic or racist slurrs; which Obama's priest and wife have be guilty of. 4. He has no mustache. and last 5. He hasn't made a special salloute for himself, he doesn't have blond or black hair, and He doesn't drive a German vehicle.[/QUOTE]

    stunning work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Brute View Post
    I think Obama is a crowd pleaser. His biggest problem is he doesn't understand the gravity the policies he is advocating. He just tells the people what they want to hear. He doesnt realize the reason we still have troops in Iraq is to keep Radical Dictators like Adhemdijad at bay. Also Universal Healthcare He doesnt realize that most patients in Europe on Universal heathcare get put off and eventually die; It doesnt help people. Also it wont cover all procedures you will still have to carry a private insurience to be fully protected. They act like doctors turn poor people away right and left. This is a load of horse crap everyone gets treated. Mostly its patients griping about the fact that the doctor cant wave his magical scapel over them and it cure morbid obesity, mixed with type 2 diabetes, hypertension, and 30 years of 2 pack a day smoking under their belt. Bottom line is people dont take care of themselves like they use too and blaming the doctors for their stupidity. I have a father who is a surgeon and he has millions in free medical care on his books. Not to metion universal healthcare would ruin doctors they would all become salaried and you can forget about starting a practice in non-elective surgery
    Obviously on thebold point. The purpose of universal health care is so people have coverage on the basic needs which is most important.

    2nd Bold point. Oh no!!! Daddy might be paided less and not be able to afford that 2nd speed boat if they let the poor get free treatment on the basic neccesities. God forbid.
  

  
 

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