Am I the only one who feels this way about Obama ?
- 04-01-2008, 09:04 AM
Am I the only one who feels this way about Obama ?
I feel like a lot of people are supporting Barack Obama because it is the 'trendy' thing to do.
A lot of this support is sort of like saying, 'I'm anti-Bush and at the same time I'm progressive because I support a non-white canidate'.
There was a pro-Obama stand that was handing out stuff, so I walked up to the people there and said that I wasn't sure how I wanted to vote yet and why I should vote for Barack Obama and what views did he stand for ?
First person said I should because, 'Bush sucks'.
The second person said 5 things, 4 of which Obama really dosen't support directly.
I would like to think that the majority of the people who are voting are educated, well-informed individuals, however, for some reason I feel like they are not.
pro-Obama is more of a trend vs. actual politics.
- 04-01-2008, 09:08 AM
duh on the educated well informed individuals. Its just like the news anymore, its not there to impart information, its there to get people excited. no one can really tell what obama stands for so its hard for someone voting based on details to want to vote for him
- 04-01-2008, 09:10 AM
I think that is what voting is about is being educated on each canidates stances. People turn on the news and think, 'Damn those racists,I'm gonna vote Obama and show them.'
I can say this because I'm not white, but a lot of African Americans don't really know all the views on the Democratic party. They just think, 'Damn the white man' when they go in to vote (Democratic).
It is a very lame tactic and we all know racism exists, that's no secret.
Furthermore, unless you actually 'follow' politics, people just vote on a wim.
04-01-2008, 11:34 AM
i feel pretty much exactly how you feel about it. it's similar to the "vote or die" campaign that mtv ran in 2004....where every celebrity involved talked about how cool it is to vote democratic. i am not criticizing all obama supporters, but there are a llot of college age kids who fit your description quite well
04-01-2008, 11:56 AM
Arnold for Pres!
"I am legally blind and if I can Squat,deadlift and over all get myself to the gym then anyone can get their a$$ in gear and get strong!!" - malleus25
04-01-2008, 12:49 PM
yeah voting has a pretty poor turnout. People don't want to wait in lines b/c it is inconvient. Also too certain states (like Texas) will never be democratic, so democratic individuals have less incentive to truely vote.
Vote or die was a lame campaign in 2004. Democrats lost and P.Diddy looked more like an idiot than he already does due to ripping off songs from other artists then calling it his own.
04-01-2008, 01:39 PM
04-01-2008, 01:54 PM
04-01-2008, 02:20 PM
oh I don't laugh, I know for sure with obama they'll have them lined up for miles
04-01-2008, 02:20 PM
which depresses me
04-01-2008, 03:39 PM
what I wanna know is where was this support movement during alan keyes' presidential runs?
btw, reaper, i like the new sig a lot
04-01-2008, 03:58 PM
04-01-2008, 03:59 PM
04-01-2008, 07:45 PM
true, I just bet they'll get even more turnout with him.
04-01-2008, 07:59 PM
Made a mistake and deleted the response to post # 13. Here it is.
Uh yea I heard of them. They do that EVERY election year right? Not because Obama's running.
Sorry for the confusion.
04-01-2008, 08:01 PM
04-01-2008, 09:41 PM
Personally I think he's all talk. He also seems naive in a way. Like when he takes office everything will all the sudden be ok, which of course with the problems we're having is highly unlikely. I agree with everyone in this thread.
04-01-2008, 11:47 PM
"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."
-- Winston Churchill
04-01-2008, 11:58 PM
04-02-2008, 07:44 AM
He gave a speech awhile back that got compared to Martin Luther King's 'I have a dream' speech.
Combo it with the race card, and you have an unbeatable royal flush.
04-02-2008, 07:45 AM
04-02-2008, 08:01 AM
04-02-2008, 09:22 AM
04-02-2008, 10:34 AM
yeah see this is why making a big deal out of race/gender in politics is such a bad thing, all anyone wants to talk about is obama's blackness, and hillary's womanhood, and this whole time, it's distracting us from thier goals, and the intended methods of execution, which is the only important thing!
04-02-2008, 03:45 PM
04-02-2008, 04:14 PM
04-02-2008, 04:47 PM
04-02-2008, 04:55 PM
04-02-2008, 05:04 PM
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04-02-2008, 05:18 PM
04-02-2008, 05:22 PM
04-02-2008, 05:25 PM
I grew up on free school lunches and salvation army clothes... I chose as a young adult to take a path that would lead me to not having to live that way and stuck with it, putting lots of effort in.
Inflammatory rhetoric isn't why they remain havenots, using excuses for their lack of effort educating themselves and dedicating themselves to improving is why they remain havenots. Sitting in the trailer drinking natural light while they watch NASCAR instead of doing something to better themselves keeps them in the trailer. And not emphasizing eductation, deadication and hard work keeps their children there.
04-02-2008, 05:27 PM
I do not disagree with the second half of your post regarding inflammatory rhetoric being used to divide the electorate so that the Masters of the Universe get richer, but I don't think that Easy is in on it, nor do I think that his rhetoric was inflammatory.
04-02-2008, 05:50 PM
04-02-2008, 06:00 PM
Who said anything about stepping on them? There is no inherent nobility in using your sperm to impregnate a woman to have children you can't afford to raise because you have no useful skills and would rather spend your time drunk, high, playing video games or watching tv than upgrading those skills. And even worse is not spending the time to be involved in those childres lives.
04-02-2008, 06:16 PM
^^^^Different subject, one I agree with.
04-02-2008, 07:54 PM
04-02-2008, 11:01 PM
Easy, I could NOT agree more with both of those last statements you just typed.
This is what I see EVERY day...95% of black people are just plain SORRY. And believe me on this, it isn't the skin color at all. Its the culture and this disgusting cycle of parents passing it onto their kids and then the young adults just grow up in the drugs and POS jobs that is OK because their parents said so.
There are white people just as bad, I see them too. Its all a culture, not a skin color. But the culture is VERY prominent in blacks.
Like Easy was saying...all you have to do in America to be successful is WORK. Make a decision at a young age that you don't want to be a sorry piece of **** like your father is, and DO something about it. I don't even care if you have college degree or not. If you are willing to work and put in effort, you will make good money, and will also be promoted.
Sad...it really is.
04-03-2008, 06:51 AM
I have no college degree, i've broken making 100k the last couple years. My wife didn't even graduate high school (has a GED) is puerto rican and by 30 was making 50k a year. Not in commission based jobs or sales jobs, i'm in technology, she is in marketing. Sure maybe we're the exceptions, but are we the exceptions because we are among the few willing to put in the effort? I don't think its random or luck.
04-03-2008, 07:18 AM
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