Stuff is really heating up in the mideast...

oswizzle · 07-18-2006, 05:02 PM

Keep it on topic.

**Jayhawkk** · 07-18-2006, 05:25 PM

We're going to refrain from blanket statements about races, religions etc. This is for political discussions and not about your personal prejudices or ignorance.

**kwyckemynd00** · 07-18-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oswizzle

Nice post from a guy that looks like a str8 Biatch man...Once again Mr Estrogen Boy....Get ur Zionist Views and go preach to ur Rabbi son...your just a classic example of a dude that did M1T for 8 weeks followed up with no post cycle therapy...dont take ur man titty rage out on me.

It must be horrible to be a complete imbecile...I pity you "son".

dont' worry though...its not your fault. its genetic. you were born a moron. the son of a couple of morons who came from a whole line of morons. society forgives you for this reason. we've even got a job waiting for you at walmart as a greater. we'll even included a drool pan for you.

you may hate me b/c i'm destined for great things and you're an idiot...but me...well, I'll always take care of you through welfare. jesus has nothing on me

krenalor · 07-19-2006, 01:21 AM

Face it Israel is going to do what they do best, kick butt. The Arabs will do what they do best, die, run away, fight badly. I look forward to Syria's rusty export version of the T-62 and T-72 being used for target practice by Israel's Merkava on Fox News.
It's real easy, disarm Hezbollah or declare war on Israel and man up and take the pounding. You aren't giving the terrorist a place to hide then whine when the rent is due.
Syria, pffft, saved last time by the Soviet Union, and they don't exist anymore. Iran, to far away and to many hate them. Give the U.S. an excuse and Israel won't have to worry about Iran anyway.

**RenegadeRows** · 07-19-2006, 06:20 AM

Israel put up a fence in Gaza along the border of Palestine and Israel, to stop suicide bombers and terrorists from coming into their country; to help maintain peace. What happened? They dug a tunnel UNDER the fence, kidnapped 2 Israeli soilders and killed 3 others.

There's only so much you can take.

**kwyckemynd00** · 07-19-2006, 06:28 AM

great post!

MaynardMeek · 07-19-2006, 09:13 AM

So as recently as 2001, CNN was telling us what a dangerous bunch of thugs Hezbollah is, and now they do a puff piece on Nose-hair Nasrallah, or whatever his name is. 'He's a charismatic leader! Builds roads! Creates sewers! Probably even runs abortion clinics for all we know! He just does everything right!

It's eerily similar to what people said about Adolf Hitler when you look at what they're saying about Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: 'It's no big deal. He's just huffing and puffing. He's insane. He doesn't really mean this! We can make deals with him. We can fix this.' Eerily, eerily the same

We declared war on terror. You can't negotiate with these people. You have to defeat them. That's what war is -- and you defeat them by killing them. 'But they're human beings!!! Just like you and me!' No, they are not human beings just like us. You and I don't go chopping off heads of news reporters, or mailing their body parts back to their home land.

We have to give all support we can to Israel. Their objective is in the best interest of the free world. Even Saudi's and other Arab states are not behind this terrorist group.... they are not "for" israel but it says alot when you wont back a group that is bent on killing a entire country.

But I know what the media would say. "we can't spend one more american life in the middle east" In World War II, the United States suffered around 92,000 battle deaths in the Pacific theater alone. Ninety-two thousand in the Pacific theater! Can you imagine how it would have gone if the Media were there back then, counting up the deaths.

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**RenegadeRows** · 07-19-2006, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MaynardMeek

So as recently as 2001, CNN was telling us what a dangerous bunch of thugs Hezbollah is, and now they do a puff piece on Nose-hair Nasrallah, or whatever his name is. 'He's a charismatic leader! Builds roads! Creates sewers! Probably even runs abortion clinics for all we know! He just does everything right!

It's eerily similar to what people said about Adolf Hitler when you look at what they're saying about Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: 'It's no big deal. He's just huffing and puffing. He's insane. He doesn't really mean this! We can make deals with him. We can fix this.' Eerily, eerily the same

We declared war on terror. You can't negotiate with these people. You have to defeat them. That's what war is -- and you defeat them by killing them. 'But they're human beings!!! Just like you and me!' No, they are not human beings just like us. You and I don't go chopping off heads of news reporters, or mailing their body parts back to their home land.

We have to give all support we can to Israel. Their objective is in the best interest of the free world. Even Saudi's and other Arab states are not behind this terrorist group.... they are not "for" israel but it says alot when you wont back a group that is bent on killing a entire country.

But I know what the media would say. "we can't spend one more american life in the middle east" In World War II, the United States suffered around 92,000 battle deaths in the Pacific theater alone. Ninety-two thousand in the Pacific theater! Can you imagine how it would have gone if the Media were there back then, counting up the deaths.

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Very well put MM.

**pistonpump** · 07-19-2006, 12:37 PM

i like that post MM, I agree totally. we waged a war on terror and israel has been our ally i think we should support them any way we can although i dont believe we should have any ground support there. let israel do their thang, the have had enuff and i would love to see them kick their ass.

glg · 07-19-2006, 12:48 PM

So if I were a conspiracy theorist....

Bush would really really like to take out Iran since they have oil and tell him (and the rest of the world) to stick up his...

We went into afganistan, then we went into Iraq now we are making a lot of noises about Iran.

We support Israel in just about every way possible (no judgement on this is implied).

We encourage Israel to protect themselves by going after Hezballah (sp?) very agressively...they are bacvked by Syria and suprise..Iran.

Sryria and or Iran reacts and actively intervenes which causes Israel to escalate which causes the other of the two to intervene which brings us (under the guise of the UN) to intervene and Bush gets to go into Iran.

Who knows which other mid-east nations/groups will get involved...WWIII???

BioHazzard · 07-19-2006, 01:55 PM

sigh... The Israelis don't need 'encouragement' to protect themselves. They are not kids.

I am surprised that people have not started speculating that it was Bush who kidnapped the Israeli soldiers....

What WWIII? Not even the Arabs are coming to the support of Hizballah, let alone world power.

Then again, if you live there, it might as well be WWIII for all practical purpose......

MaynardMeek · 07-19-2006, 02:01 PM

Actually people have. I have to find it again but there are reports that bush is working with Iran to stir up the area so the world wont watch Iran build nukes... the nuts and bolts of it is.. US wants Iran to get nukes...the even tie it in with Clinton giving Iran information and equipment to control this energy

**BigVrunga** · 07-19-2006, 02:46 PM

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So as recently as 2001, CNN was telling us what a dangerous bunch of thugs Hezbollah is, and now they do a puff piece on Nose-hair Nasrallah, or whatever his name is. 'He's a charismatic leader! Builds roads! Creates sewers! Probably even runs abortion clinics for all we know! He just does everything right!

It's eerily similar to what people said about Adolf Hitler when you look at what they're saying about Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: 'It's no big deal. He's just huffing and puffing. He's insane. He doesn't really mean this! We can make deals with him. We can fix this.' Eerily, eerily the same

We declared war on terror. You can't negotiate with these people. You have to defeat them. That's what war is -- and you defeat them by killing them. 'But they're human beings!!! Just like you and me!' No, they are not human beings just like us. You and I don't go chopping off heads of news reporters, or mailing their body parts back to their home land.

We have to give all support we can to Israel. Their objective is in the best interest of the free world. Even Saudi's and other Arab states are not behind this terrorist group.... they are not "for" israel but it says alot when you wont back a group that is bent on killing a entire country.

But I know what the media would say. "we can't spend one more american life in the middle east" In World War II, the United States suffered around 92,000 battle deaths in the Pacific theater alone. Ninety-two thousand in the Pacific theater! Can you imagine how it would have gone if the Media were there back then, counting up the deaths.

You know Maynard, normally in these political threads you and I generally have opposing viewpoints. This time, however, I have to agree with you.

I dont care if US foreign policy with Israel is a factor that led to the state of things today. I also dont care that Hezbollah 'are people too'. Whatever.

I'm an American, and if I were caught over there by any of these bastards, they'd saw my head off with a pocket knife. And that's what people with love and kindness in their heart have to realize...those emotions are all well and good, and in an ideal world that's what everyone should consider.

Of course, this isnt an ideal world. Its a world where a certain group of people would like to see all American's die horrible, painful deaths and are obviously doing whatever they can to make that happen. In this world and with these muslim extreemist, attemps at diplomacy and kindness are viewed as a weakness. These maniacs really need to be detroyed, all of them do.

The problem I see though, is that they're so entrenched in society over there, is that a lot of innocent people end up getting their lives detroyed in the process. Look at all those poor ****s in south Lebanon. A lot of them have nothing to do with Hezbollah and yet their familes are dying, homes and buisnesses are destroyed by the Israeli attacks. Something that will go a long way to creating future terrorists out of innocent people, no doubt.

Honestly, I cant see an end to this conflict, or a peaceful resolution to anything in the mideast. Other than all out war and total conquest and/or destruction of countries that harbor terroists and extreemist viewpoints, that is. That does seem to be where things are being pushed, doesnt it?

BV

MaynardMeek · 07-19-2006, 03:13 PM

Yes it does... and it has to be...its in our nature to do so. Sadly the Muslim cause has been perverted. They are against Zionists, Jews worshiping the free market, just as many Jews are against them, but they have put the face of Zion on every Jews, the same thing that is going on with the face of a terrorist being on the body of all Islam. It has been far too long of a conflict to sit two people down and have it be the end. Israel has done every last bit, and given everything away to these nations and it mattered not. They continue to bomb innocent Jews, killing them and Zionists. They follow the understanding that the Innocent will be dealt with accordingly in the after life as a sort of Martyr. This allows them to kill with out worry. However, I worry, though I am not Jewish, I worry about this mindset and how it will be extended to the rest of the world. Islamic law states that it will rule the world, and it must rule the world, you must join the Jihad with your "words, your heart and your hands." This has been taken to mean kill, kill, kill. The only way to stop the death, is to kill in return. To reduce those numbers that are willing to take the life of the ignorant and innocent men, women and children who are doing nothing more than living life the best way they can.

I think Zionists are bad, all "ists" are bad. But we have to now pick a side in this world war. Life is all about the lesser of two evils, and I have not seen any worse evil then in the Peaceful loving religon of the Islamist mindset. It will not end unless the free world, Christians, Muslims, Jews, alike, stand up and wipe them out.

**kwyckemynd00** · 07-19-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigVrunga

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Honestly, I cant see an end to this conflict, or a peaceful resolution to anything in the mideast. Other than all out war and total conquest and/or destruction of countries that harbor terroists and extreemist viewpoints, that is. That does seem to be where things are being pushed, doesnt it?

BV

UNLESS we get some support by our supposed "allies" France, Germany, Russia, China, etc...and I'm talkign major support. I think the leaders of many of these middle easter countries would change their tune really quick if they honestly believed that all out war was a possibility.

They're watching us laughing about our rubber spine ATM.