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    Quote Originally Posted by doggzj
    Honestly this doesn't directly affect me much at all... but I have some input.

    I know a lot of europeans have have dealt with high gas prices for a very long time. Why does this suddenly kill americans? We are still paying less then european contries. Do we as a country financially strap ourselves so tight that and extra $50 per month kills us?
    For a lot of people, yes. It's also important to remember that their higher prices are manufactured to a large degree through even more extensive taxation and regulation. I'm not sure if they have to deal with the same regional differences within each country that we have to deal with though, so that could be one thing in their favor. JMH is a lot more familiar with the particulars on this issue than I am, I wasn't even aware of the issues in Africa.

    Put simply though people have to stop complaining about a price rise. To a certain extent I don't doubt it's due to 'Big Oil' greed. However, they wouldn't be able to exericise that power were it not for government intervention. In a broader sense though a price increase due to restricted supply and/or increased demand should be welcomed, because that's what stops shortages and what signals the market to allocate more supply to the areas in question. It's the profits to be made from the price rise that will give people the incentive to sell more of whatever the good in question is in that area.

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    Hydrogen is a promising future, if they can cut through the red tape crap.

    Ford is pushing the idea of hydraulics in their new trucks, and we may see them in production as early as 2009. Apparently hydraulics are more efficient than the latest batteries we have today. It's kind of ironic that the bigger/higher the truck sits, the more fuel efficient it will be due to the increased hydraulic size.

    I pedal bike a lot in the summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doggzj
    I know a lot of europeans have have dealt with high gas prices for a very long time. Why does this suddenly kill americans? We are still paying less then european contries. Do we as a country financially strap ourselves so tight that and extra $50 per month kills us?
    I think you just answered your own question. Europeans have dealt with high gas prices for a very long time. Fuel economy is a much higher rated priority in those countries when searching for a new vehicle. Plus, many Europeans do not own vehicles.

    North Americans have dealt with relatively low gas prices for a very long time, and purchase their vehicles accordingly. Now all of a sudden, some people find that their 3 gas guzzlers in the driveway are going to cost them a lot more - and they are still making payments on these vehicles.

    I think there are a lot more American teenagers with vehicles than in Europe. While I think $50/month might be a bit on the conservative side, just an extra $50/month for a highschool student is going to hurt.
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    Yeah or if your like me and currently are in colege/unemployeed, having a 2002 Chevy 2500 HD with a 6.0L V8 doesn't help, I have that thing on blocks right now.
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    Just be thankfull u got us near u guys (Canada) and the biggest reserve of untaped oil estimated at some 1trillion berrals in the oil sands in Alberta. Its not the companies that affect price that much but rather the taxes, here in canada gas has a 40%tax on it so take that off and u got cheaper gas...especially here where they got surpluses every year but taxes still don't go down. I ride my bike and it costs me $15 of premium /week the only thing that scks is u can only use it for roughly 7 months here in Canada.
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    Alberta eh, whats stopping you guys from getting it some endanged slugs or some ****?
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    Mehhh....Long story short: demand is up just over 1% the last 2 years while price is up around 20% for the same time frame.

    While I dont want to say it's about the greed of CEO's, I wholeheartedly cannot dismiss that they will milk the industry while they can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80
    Hmmm.
    I seem to remember paying 75 cents a gallon in 1998-1999.

    Doesn't quite fit the picture that I just get to make up the price as I want, eh??


    Diesel was 99 cents at that time it was pimp as hell...LONG LIVE THE 7.3 POWERSTROKE

    also jmh80 since i cannot PM you where did you get that picture in your avatar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent
    I get 32mpg but someday I will own this....


    Sweet ride, as per the name I ride a Basso (a real one) couldn't afford that beauty! Gets really good gas mileage Unlimited miles per gallon
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    Someone linked it to me - was from Hot or Not...
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    I bought my wife a new car last year, and we looked at the hybrids but dang what a rip, we got a 5speed corolla (40mpg) at half the price. After living in Europe for 8 years $3 doesn't seem so bad, majority of europeans drive diesels (diesel is taxed less=lower price) unfortunately here the diesel is the same as Reg gas. Sure wish I still had my 81 diesel rabbit (50-60mpg, had to push uphill though).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80
    Someone linked it to me - was from Hot or Not...
    Well that's definitely hot but $5k+ for a bike is a bit much for me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basso
    Well that's definitely hot but $5k+ for a bike is a bit much for me!

    The Colnago C4 Ferrari Edition is $8500



    Note: jmh80 is talking about his avatar.
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    Yeah, who gives a flying f*ck about a bike??

    I'm here for big tits damn it!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80
    Yeah, who gives a flying f*ck about a bike??

    I'm here for big tits damn it!!!

    I hate you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent
    The Colnago C4 Ferrari Edition is $8500



    Note: jmh80 is talking about his avatar.
    Ouch! Does that come in a hybrid?
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    Yeah, only if it's waxed...
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    Yeah see the non hybrid get 12MPG and the hybrid get 13MPG.. but when u buy the car it comes in both models... one MPG is for speed >100MPH and the other is for <100MPH
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    Honestly if I was big oil I'd charge more also. That's pretty much the point of business, make as much money as possible.

    I understand why people don't like that, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doggzj
    I understand why people don't like that, though. Again, people should have been
    more intelligent when they decided to purchase that low MPG vehicle.
    LoL - true. But knowing what I know now, I'd still probably buy my gas guzzling Jeep. It doesn't matter how smart I am if I'm not thinking with that organ.

    Kind of the same reason why I try to pack muscle on my body. Yes, my "MPG" (with food) is worse than those skinny marathon runners, and it would be cheaper to eat less, especially if the price of food all of a sudden doubles - but I'll still bite the bullet and buy more food...and just complain about it.

    If I ever get a second vehicle, MPG will be high on the priority list.

    NOTE: doggzj EDITED out that last sentance while I was quoting it, most likely to not offend anyone. So while most of my response was centered on that, I think everyone should take into account that this particular comment was removed, and nobody should get upset over it. I just didn't want to delete all that I typed, cuz, well, I typed it. LoL

    But he's right anyways. I'll be the first to admit that I have done some things in the past that weren't the best for me financially, and I'll be the first to admit that I'll do it again. I'll just blame the testosterone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunder
    I'll just blame the testosterone...
    Damn test does it every time, why were we so cursed! lol

    Looks like it's time to buy that cabin in Montana, now if only I can find one with a gym with lots of chicks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basso
    Damn test does it every time, why were we so cursed! lol

    Looks like it's time to buy that cabin in Montana, now if only I can find one with a gym with lots of chicks!
    I've got the numbers of a few militias up there if you want a hook up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDB
    I've got the numbers of a few militias up there if you want a hook up.
    When I said chicks I meant hot girls, not baby chickens, lol. Anyway I would have to get a gun rack for my truck, and I don't think I can afford to make it that far at $3 a gallon
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    FYI,

    Crude closed at another record high today $75.17 Per Barrel.


    Local news reported substantial increase in pawn shop business as people are liquidating valuables to pay for gas(Not a joke).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunder
    LoL - true. But knowing what I know now, I'd still probably buy my gas guzzling Jeep. It doesn't matter how smart I am if I'm not thinking with that organ.

    Kind of the same reason why I try to pack muscle on my body. Yes, my "MPG" (with food) is worse than those skinny marathon runners, and it would be cheaper to eat less, especially if the price of food all of a sudden doubles - but I'll still bite the bullet and buy more food...and just complain about it.

    If I ever get a second vehicle, MPG will be high on the priority list.

    NOTE: doggzj EDITED out that last sentance while I was quoting it, most likely to not offend anyone. So while most of my response was centered on that, I think everyone should take into account that this particular comment was removed, and nobody should get upset over it. I just didn't want to delete all that I typed, cuz, well, I typed it. LoL

    But he's right anyways. I'll be the first to admit that I have done some things in the past that weren't the best for me financially, and I'll be the first to admit that I'll do it again. I'll just blame the testosterone...
    wow I edited in under 30 seconds and you still quoted me!
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    My futures stocks are kicking ass, i made 1G in a week from all of this gas crap. ITs kinda sad, b/c i know what ramifications this will have int he long run but for right now its kinda good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectre32
    My futures stocks are kicking ass, i made 1G in a week from all of this gas crap. ITs kinda sad, b/c i know what ramifications this will have int he long run but for right now its kinda good.
    See! you're paying for your truck!

    But seriously, if I had a product, and I could double my price and still sell 90% as much, of course I'd do it. It's smart business.

    Investors see this and that's why oil futures are going through the roof.
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    I am so...SO glad I bought my 1995 Honda Accord and got rid of that POS gas hog Ford Explorer. Even at an avg of 28mpg (32Hwy/25City), Im still paying out the ass, as Im on the road at least an hour a day for the work commute, driving to the gym, etc.

    There's plenty of ways for the individual to ease the financial stress of higher gas prices. Biodiesel, straight-up veg oil conversion, even building an ethanol still in your backyard. (most newer vehicles will run on straight ethanol without a problem). Most of these methods cost an initial investment of ~$2000,or about what an SUV driver is going to spend on gas this year. When I get a house in a year or so, its the first project on my list.

    That crap about corn ethanol costing more energy to produce that it gives of when burned...what a load of BS. Brazil went nearly energy independant in a YEAR using sugar cane to produce ethanol (which is far more efficient than corn). You're telling me our stupid, STUPID ****ing government, who doesnt have a problem spending 100's of billions of dollars to rebuild a goat farm in the middle of nowhere couldnt subsidize some type of initiative to encourage farmers to grow a crop that was more efficient at fuel production? Does giant fat ass America really need anymore high fructose CORN syrup??

    I dont want to start an argument with anyone, Im just venting because I think about all the chances over the past 20 years America had to reduce its petroleum consumption and we just kept ****ing off...well, now we're going to reap what we've sown.

    It sucks for us, but Im glad gas is going up, hell I hope its up to $10.00 a ****ing gallon by 2008. Maybe that will prompt these stupid ****ing money whoring ******* politicians of ours to get their heads out of their ****ing asses and do something that's actually good for the country and the planet.

    I think the biggest reason why there hasnt been a massive push for alternative energy is that they havent figured out how to effective charge money for it yet. Hydrogen cells run off water, Solar from the sun, wind from the air...how are they going to line their pockets selling free unlimited natural resources? Greedy ****ing *******s! I hope they all burn in hell.

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    My futures stocks are kicking ass, i made 1G in a week from all of this gas crap. ITs kinda sad, b/c i know what ramifications this will have int he long run but for right now its kinda good.
    Damn I need to start investing...
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    BigV,
    You can protest all you want, but it's pure thermodynamics that EtOH consumes more energy in making it than it gives off.

    BTW - it WILL lower your gas mileage. Speaking of EtOH...


    This is a cyclical business. I can't wait until the next turndown.
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    BigV,
    You can protest all you want, but it's pure thermodynamics that EtOH consumes more energy in making it than it gives off.

    BTW - it WILL lower your gas mileage. Speaking of EtOH...
    Yeah, as I stated Im just venting frustration. I always read your posts on the energy topics thoroughly because you actually work in the field...

    Ive read the Berklee report on the thermodynamics of corn-based ethanol, but I'm sure there are other routes to ethanol that would provide a positive energy balance. Maybe this guy's onto something:

    http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/511547/?sc=dwhp

    Another plant or algae that can produce ethanol without the need for distillation, solar powered harvesters, etc. Its futuristic but it would be nice if there was at least a clear plan in place on how the world is going to supply its energy needs in the next century and after. Oil wont last forever at current rates of consumption...a lot of things need to change and it wont happen overnight.

    BTW - it WILL lower your gas mileage. Speaking of EtOH...
    That's true. I'm sure that design changes could be implemented that would maximize the fuel efficency of EtOH. Maybe EtOH isnt even the answer, who knows. Honestly, I dont know enough about it to hypothesize with any accuracy...should have gone to school for biochem

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    Last edited by jmh80; 05-28-2006 at 03:22 AM.
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    Actually - chemical engineering.


    But, biochem would have been fun. Then, I could have debated Big Cat's crap about AI use during PCT.
    Lol! I just went through one of his threads the other day and though the *same* thing With bio-chem I could have worked on developing a new form of plant life that could generate refined petroleum from human stupidity. We'd be saved!

    People need to realize that the biggest portion of this price spike is due to CONGRESS - that means BOTH PARTIES.
    People making dumb statements about Repubs this and Repubs that and Bush this and Bush that about them causing this spike are flat out stoooooooooopid.
    Yep. I agree. I take the generalized approach and just can't stand any of them

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    Last edited by jmh80; 05-28-2006 at 03:23 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80
    People need to realize that the biggest portion of this price spike is due to CONGRESS - that means BOTH PARTIES.
    People making dumb statements about Repubs this and Repubs that and Bush this and Bush that about them causing this spike are flat out stoooooooooopid.

    Prices will come back down. Refineries will come back online and will operate flat out. Inventories of gas will rise. Yet, this EtOH fiasco will remain - it will take abit to build the plants to make the stuff.

    As long as we don't bomb Iran or Venezuala, that is (but Chavez needs to be taken out of power - that moron is ruining the only lifeblood that piece of crap country has...yet I digress).
    That's the bottom line! If the Dems were in power they would be taking the blame and the Reps would gladly give it to them, as the opposite is happening now. Your right though, gas will come back down (probably a little higher then it was) and they will find another excuse to raise it again. It's a constant viscous cycle that will continue for quite some time I believe.

    I will be filling up my gas guzzler on Monday for the last time for a year. Then it's off to the orient were I'll be walking and biking for the next year. Hope gas is down by the time I get back, can't pull my camper with a hybrid!
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    The Orient eh?
    I could have some fun with some chems that they allow over there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80
    The Orient eh?
    I could have some fun with some chems that they allow over there!
    Drugstore=Drugstore over there! Haven't found much on the quality of products though, know anything?
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    Well, considering it seems most powders come from there...I imagined the streets were lined with test (ala Willie Wonka).
  

  
 

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